SBC-STOP and SBC-HOLD in W211 donīt work.
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S211 220cdi Station Elegance --> 191,4hp/469Nm
SBC-STOP and SBC-HOLD in W211 donīt work.
Hi, i have a w211 of 2003 with automatic transmission.
The SBC-Stop and the SBC-Hold left of work.
Anyone know how i fix this sistem?
Can be a problem of fuses?
Sorry my english is not good.
thanks
Luis Paulino
The SBC-Stop and the SBC-Hold left of work.
Anyone know how i fix this sistem?
Can be a problem of fuses?
Sorry my english is not good.
thanks
Luis Paulino
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Yes. But if it is coded to where the car actually is that could be the problem. I know in the USA we have to change the country coding to "rest of world " to get those things to work.
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S211 220cdi Station Elegance --> 191,4hp/469Nm
Thanks for help, but in Portugal in Mercedes-Benz, the car was connected in the diagnosis machine, and did not show any error.
The SBC-Stop and the SBC-Hold was left work, when i put the car in a center auto washing car. When i went bring the car, the system nevermore work.
What i need to do?
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The SBC-Stop and the SBC-Hold was left work, when i put the car in a center auto washing car. When i went bring the car, the system nevermore work.
What i need to do?
Thanks
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Malfunction (or reason for system disable) should be shown in codes, was the tester MB SDS?
I remember couple of cases where SBC hold disable was due to error in gear selector module.
You system has not been updated because STOP is remved from system then...
One thing came up my mind; you said this happened after car wash; check the drains under the aux battery (under the combination filter, passenger side in engine bay), as well as boot floor in case of water damage... (but flood problem should also be seen usually several other electrical problem and fault codes..)
I remember couple of cases where SBC hold disable was due to error in gear selector module.
You system has not been updated because STOP is remved from system then...
One thing came up my mind; you said this happened after car wash; check the drains under the aux battery (under the combination filter, passenger side in engine bay), as well as boot floor in case of water damage... (but flood problem should also be seen usually several other electrical problem and fault codes..)
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Malfunction (or reason for system disable) should be shown in codes, was the tester MB SDS?
I remember couple of cases where SBC hold disable was due to error in gear selector module.
You system has not been updated because STOP is remved from system then...
One thing came up my mind; you said this happened after car wash; check the drains under the aux battery (under the combination filter, passenger side in engine bay), as well as boot floor in case of water damage... (but flood problem should also be seen usually several other electrical problem and fault codes..)
I remember couple of cases where SBC hold disable was due to error in gear selector module.
You system has not been updated because STOP is remved from system then...
One thing came up my mind; you said this happened after car wash; check the drains under the aux battery (under the combination filter, passenger side in engine bay), as well as boot floor in case of water damage... (but flood problem should also be seen usually several other electrical problem and fault codes..)
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Read the codes with MB star diagnostic, if the earlier tester was somthing else. I'm suspecting gear shifter of brake light switch... My SBC hold was disabled temporary when my gas pedal sensor was playing up, but that put on engine light also, and fault was cleared at restart (even EML still on), so there are many things which may prevent SBC full features...
Check out possible water damages/corrosion around the aux battery, fuse boxes and boot.
Faulty aux battery would cause red alert in instrument cluster so I think battery itself is not a culprit here.
Check out possible water damages/corrosion around the aux battery, fuse boxes and boot.
Faulty aux battery would cause red alert in instrument cluster so I think battery itself is not a culprit here.
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Read the codes with MB star diagnostic, if the earlier tester was somthing else. I'm suspecting gear shifter of brake light switch... My SBC hold was disabled temporary when my gas pedal sensor was playing up, but that put on engine light also, and fault was cleared at restart (even EML still on), so there are many things which may prevent SBC full features...
Check out possible water damages/corrosion around the aux battery, fuse boxes and boot.
Faulty aux battery would cause red alert in instrument cluster so I think battery itself is not a culprit here.
Check out possible water damages/corrosion around the aux battery, fuse boxes and boot.
Faulty aux battery would cause red alert in instrument cluster so I think battery itself is not a culprit here.
For begin, i will try to look fuses boxes, but i dont know which fuses boxes i look. Which will be of
SBC??
When you said ''boot'' are the baggage of car behind?
Thanks
Last edited by Luismbmp; 10-29-2014 at 10:45 AM.
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Is this like the hold feature on my C63 where you press the brake hard & quick and the brakes stay on until you hit the gas? If so I can I re-code my 06 to do this?
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OP:I'm suggesting to see any water damage because your problems started after washing (engine bay box in drivers side, aux battery area and trunk overall bottom yes), otherwise I would say its gearbox/shifter related.
Here some discussion in UK forum:
http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/engin...bc-hold-5.html
Last edited by mersum1es; 10-29-2014 at 12:53 PM.
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Yep it's disabled in USA facelift cars...
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I've done so digging, definately there has been many faults in gear selector module. There is some switch grounding problem which does not affect to gearbox operation but sends info to SBC. Document GI42.46-P-037367 tells more (sorry couldn't find it).
Sometimes faulty door pin (or bonnet/trunk) switch is disabling hold feature because car thinks door is open.
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I've done so digging, definately there has been many faults in gear selector module. There is some switch grounding problem which does not affect to gearbox operation but sends info to SBC. Document GI42.46-P-037367 tells more (sorry couldn't find it).
Sometimes faulty door pin (or bonnet/trunk) switch is disabling hold feature because car thinks door is open.
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I am afraid it's not in software any more so not possible tweaking via Xentry... but I'm not expert of US versions, so if I am wrong option could be seen if you just change your land coding to european one...
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S211 220cdi Station Elegance --> 191,4hp/469Nm
Hello, I have to say that sbc-stop and sbc-hold, never worked in my w211 automatic transmission.
It worked so well inside the city
It worked so well inside the city
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To the other questions here. The W211 exported to US had the SBC-H and SBC-S functions disabled. At that time MBUSA feared that such an advanced function will discombobulate the rich housewife MB demographic causing fender benders and making their family lawyers sue MB. Forward 10 years after most car manufacturers introduced similar features and it is back on.
As mentioned above here you need the DAS to recode the Central Gateway Module to RDW (Rest of the World in german) from US.
I have done this to my 04 E500 and 06 SL500 and I cannot drive without them anymore. I am not sure about 06 and newer. For example the SBC-S is not present at all in 06 SL500. To some extent these functions were tied to the SBC system, if the system was abandoned after 06, I do not know if the functions are still there.
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I've got a 2005 E55 whilst it's coded to RDW and SBC-H is available the option of SBC-S is NOT an option on my E55. However on my E240 both options are available.
Seems options vary dependent on model and year.
Seems options vary dependent on model and year.
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The gear lever must be replaced, there is a board sensor that has failed, when changing the lever with the board will be fine Autohold.
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that will fix it