Luismbmp

Hi, i have a w211 of 2003 with automatic transmission.
The SBC-Stop and the SBC-Hold left of work.
Anyone know how i fix this sistem?
Can be a problem of fuses?

Sorry my english is not good.

thanks

Luis Paulino

Plutoe

Regrettably you need someone with factory or equal software to diagnose the SBC--

Shifter

What is country coding in the CGW?

Plutoe

The central gateway module is coded to the country where the car is sold---it is apart of the variant coding---- when you replace the damaged CGW with hew one---simply ask DAS Xentry to copy the old coding to new CGW module

Shifter

Yes. But if it is coded to where the car actually is that could be the problem. I know in the USA we have to change the country coding to "rest of world " to get those things to work.

Luismbmp

Thanks for help, but in Portugal in Mercedes-Benz, the car was connected in the diagnosis machine, and did not show any error.
The SBC-Stop and the SBC-Hold was left work, when i put the car in a center auto washing car. When i went bring the car, the system nevermore work.

What i need to do?

Thanks

mersum1es

Malfunction (or reason for system disable) should be shown in codes, was the tester MB SDS?

I remember couple of cases where SBC hold disable was due to error in gear selector module.

You system has not been updated because STOP is remved from system then...

One thing came up my mind; you said this happened after car wash; check the drains under the aux battery (under the combination filter, passenger side in engine bay), as well as boot floor in case of water damage... (but flood problem should also be seen usually several other electrical problem and fault codes..)

Luismbmp

Thanks, so what i do? Change the auxiliary baterie?

mersum1es

Read the codes with MB star diagnostic, if the earlier tester was somthing else. I'm suspecting gear shifter of brake light switch... My SBC hold was disabled temporary when my gas pedal sensor was playing up, but that put on engine light also, and fault was cleared at restart (even EML still on), so there are many things which may prevent SBC full features...

Check out possible water damages/corrosion around the aux battery, fuse boxes and boot.

Faulty aux battery would cause red alert in instrument cluster so I think battery itself is not a culprit here.

Luismbmp

Thanks for help.
For begin, i will try to look fuses boxes, but i dont know which fuses boxes i look. Which will be of
SBC??
When you said ''boot'' are the baggage of car behind?

Thanks

rediesel

Is this like the hold feature on my C63 where you press the brake hard & quick and the brakes stay on until you hit the gas? If so I can I re-code my 06 to do this?

mersum1es

If you have facelift car, You still should have that feature! It not called any more hold and I cannot recall how to activate it...

OP:I'm suggesting to see any water damage because your problems started after washing (engine bay box in drivers side, aux battery area and trunk overall bottom yes), otherwise I would say its gearbox/shifter related.

Here some discussion in UK forum:
http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/engin...bc-hold-5.html

Luismbmp

Hi,
I just wanted to have my sbc running

rhswest

My 2009 has the same problem where brake/hold doesn't work. I'm in the USA. Anyone know how to get this feature to work for US cars?

Plutoe

Anyone with a copy of DAS Xentry and knows how to use it will define/solve your issues!!

mersum1es

Yep it's disabled in USA facelift cars...

OP:
I've done so digging, definately there has been many faults in gear selector module. There is some switch grounding problem which does not affect to gearbox operation but sends info to SBC. Document GI42.46-P-037367 tells more (sorry couldn't find it).

Sometimes faulty door pin (or bonnet/trunk) switch is disabling hold feature because car thinks door is open.

NewShockerGuy

Disabled meaning it can be enabled via STAR and a c4? OR Disabled/Never installed/Never meant to work in USA facelift cars?


Thanks,
-Nigel

mersum1es

I am afraid it's not in software any more so not possible tweaking via Xentry... but I'm not expert of US versions, so if I am wrong option could be seen if you just change your land coding to european one...

Luismbmp

Hello, I have to say that sbc-stop and sbc-hold, never worked in my w211 automatic transmission.
It worked so well inside the city

cMazara

But did you put a das scanner? the mercedes benz scanner... it it shut off it'll tell you why.

gafitanu

Luis, there is conflicting information in your post. You say that SBC-Stop and Hold NEVER worked in your car? Then maybe your car was not set for that feature from the factory. You can write in Portuguese, I am in Massachusetts and there are a lot of people here speaking Portuguese.

To the other questions here. The W211 exported to US had the SBC-H and SBC-S functions disabled. At that time MBUSA feared that such an advanced function will discombobulate the rich housewife MB demographic causing fender benders and making their family lawyers sue MB. Forward 10 years after most car manufacturers introduced similar features and it is back on.
As mentioned above here you need the DAS to recode the Central Gateway Module to RDW (Rest of the World in german) from US.
I have done this to my 04 E500 and 06 SL500 and I cannot drive without them anymore. I am not sure about 06 and newer. For example the SBC-S is not present at all in 06 SL500. To some extent these functions were tied to the SBC system, if the system was abandoned after 06, I do not know if the functions are still there.

nivram13

I've got a 2005 E55 whilst it's coded to RDW and SBC-H is available the option of SBC-S is NOT an option on my E55. However on my E240 both options are available.

Seems options vary dependent on model and year.

kristiyangyurov

The gear lever must be replaced, there is a board sensor that has failed, when changing the lever with the board will be fine Autohold.
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Maroc_Specops

change ur brake light switch beneath the brake pedal.

that will fix it