E320 4Matic rear end noise
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E320 4Matic rear end noise
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I have a 2004 mod.E320 4Matic wagon with 135K miles on the clock.
I have some noise from the rear of the car.
It is a kind of rumbling, knocking, grinding noise. It is only when I reverse, and especially when I reverse, and turns simultaneously. I've been to the workshop, and they said to not worry.
They said the sound is normal, and made by the difference in the speed of the front and rear differentials.
I'm no mechanic, but I found the explanation from the workshop to be misguiding. I have little or no mechanical skills, and no opportunities for controlling what makes the sounds myself.
Does anyone have any suggestions to what causes the noice. For me, the noise have a rather "expensive to repair sound".
Thanks for any suggestions .
I have a 2004 mod.E320 4Matic wagon with 135K miles on the clock.
I have some noise from the rear of the car.
It is a kind of rumbling, knocking, grinding noise. It is only when I reverse, and especially when I reverse, and turns simultaneously. I've been to the workshop, and they said to not worry.
They said the sound is normal, and made by the difference in the speed of the front and rear differentials.
I'm no mechanic, but I found the explanation from the workshop to be misguiding. I have little or no mechanical skills, and no opportunities for controlling what makes the sounds myself.
Does anyone have any suggestions to what causes the noice. For me, the noise have a rather "expensive to repair sound".
Thanks for any suggestions .
Last edited by jawo; 03-10-2015 at 11:00 AM.
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Hi,
I have a 2004 mod.E320 4Matic wagon with 135K miles on the clock.
I have some noise from the rear of the car.
It is a kind of rumbling, knocking, grinding noise. It is only when I reverse, and especially when I reverse, and turns simultaneously. I've been to the workshop, and they said to not worry.
They said the sound is normal, and made by the difference in the speed of the front and rear differentials.
I'm no mechanic, but I found the explanation from the workshop to be misguiding. I have little or no mechanical skills, and no opportunities for controlling what makes the sounds myself.
Does anyone have any suggestions to what causes the noice. For me, the noise have a rather "expensive to repair sound".
Thanks for any suggestions .
I have a 2004 mod.E320 4Matic wagon with 135K miles on the clock.
I have some noise from the rear of the car.
It is a kind of rumbling, knocking, grinding noise. It is only when I reverse, and especially when I reverse, and turns simultaneously. I've been to the workshop, and they said to not worry.
They said the sound is normal, and made by the difference in the speed of the front and rear differentials.
I'm no mechanic, but I found the explanation from the workshop to be misguiding. I have little or no mechanical skills, and no opportunities for controlling what makes the sounds myself.
Does anyone have any suggestions to what causes the noice. For me, the noise have a rather "expensive to repair sound".
Thanks for any suggestions .
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Do you feel any form of vibration in the steering wheel when making a turn? Maybe the rear diff needs a fluid flush. When was the last time you had that done? I had a grinding noise but not the knocking noise as you mentioned when turning at low speeds. Cost about 300 at the the dealer and got it done around 104k miles. Took care of the problem.
Thanks for the tip. I have a appointment whit the workshop next week to have a check of the rear differential. What was the viscosity of the oil you used? I to have a slight vibration in the steering wheel. BTW. the noise disappeared while driving faster than 5mph.
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Thanks for the tip. I have a appointment whit the workshop next week to have a check of the rear differential. What was the viscosity of the oil you used? I to have a slight vibration in the steering wheel. BTW. the noise disappeared while driving faster than 5mph.
Thanks for the tip. I have a appointment whit the workshop next week to have a check of the rear differential. What was the viscosity of the oil you used? I to have a slight vibration in the steering wheel. BTW. the noise disappeared while driving faster than 5mph.
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I went to the workshop yesterday to check the vibrations. I flushed the fluid in the transfer case, it was black, but the vibrations was still there.
Then we saw that the rubber boot on the spline was cracked, and there was no grease inside. It was dry as a dessert. We filled the boot with new grease, and the vibrations/noice disappeared. I assume that I have to buy a new/secondhand shaft. I don't think I can buy only the rubber boot
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zubin.p,
I went to the workshop yesterday to check the vibrations. I flushed the fluid in the transfer case, it was black, but the vibrations was still there.
Then we saw that the rubber boot on the spline was cracked, and there was no grease inside. It was dry as a dessert. We filled the boot with new grease, and the vibrations/noice disappeared. I assume that I have to buy a new/secondhand shaft. I don't think I can buy only the rubber boot
I went to the workshop yesterday to check the vibrations. I flushed the fluid in the transfer case, it was black, but the vibrations was still there.
Then we saw that the rubber boot on the spline was cracked, and there was no grease inside. It was dry as a dessert. We filled the boot with new grease, and the vibrations/noice disappeared. I assume that I have to buy a new/secondhand shaft. I don't think I can buy only the rubber boot
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zubin.p,
I went to the workshop yesterday to check the vibrations. I flushed the fluid in the transfer case, it was black, but the vibrations was still there.
Then we saw that the rubber boot on the spline was cracked, and there was no grease inside. It was dry as a dessert. We filled the boot with new grease, and the vibrations/noice disappeared. I assume that I have to buy a new/secondhand shaft. I don't think I can buy only the rubber boot
I went to the workshop yesterday to check the vibrations. I flushed the fluid in the transfer case, it was black, but the vibrations was still there.
Then we saw that the rubber boot on the spline was cracked, and there was no grease inside. It was dry as a dessert. We filled the boot with new grease, and the vibrations/noice disappeared. I assume that I have to buy a new/secondhand shaft. I don't think I can buy only the rubber boot
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There is specific procedure for doing a transfer case flush if you are trying to solve the vibration when turning. It's more than just replacing the fluid, and is on a work card. When my MB dealer did it for me, it totally solved the problem. And the MB stuff is a specific product available at the dealer.
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SEE, for example, this diagram: http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAsse...sembly=1074138
Certain boots on the diagram are available as separate parts. Click on the FULLSIZE IMAGE link above the minimized image, and look at the items labeled "50".
When you get the stock number of the boot you need, Huskerparts.com has them for less than mbpartsworld. See, for example, http://www.huskerparts.com/parts/ind...&siteid=215771
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There are some companies that do sell just the boot, but it depends upon which boot you need to replace. Do you have the part number for the shaft you are talking about? I'm happy to help by trying to check.
Certain boots on the diagram are available as separate parts. Click on the FULLSIZE IMAGE link above the minimized image, and look at the items labeled "50".
When you get the stock number of the boot you need, Huskerparts.com has them for less than mbpartsworld. See, for example, http://www.huskerparts.com/parts/ind...&siteid=215771
Certain boots on the diagram are available as separate parts. Click on the FULLSIZE IMAGE link above the minimized image, and look at the items labeled "50".
When you get the stock number of the boot you need, Huskerparts.com has them for less than mbpartsworld. See, for example, http://www.huskerparts.com/parts/ind...&siteid=215771
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The part # on the shaft is A2204107106. It goes from the transfer case on the right hand side on the gearbox, to the front differential . It is not the driveshaft to the wheel.
Thank you for the links. I'm happy for all help I can get.
I'll try to send you an image og the end of the shaft.
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Correct, MB does not offer shaft parts, use 2204107106 to search online i.e.: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...-mb-2204107106
https://www.fcpeuro.com/page/international-orders
https://www.fcpeuro.com/page/international-orders
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Thanks for the link. I see that the shaft don't have the rubber boot. Why?
Is it the correct shaft?
I found the corect shaft on Ebay, with the rubber boot.
http://tinyurl.com/omfjbfc
It is also the cheapest I have seen so far.
The price is including shipping cost
I see that this seller also have a large inventory with boots. Mabe som of them wil fit
http://tinyurl.com/omfjbfc
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Febest makes good stuff. If you can get the real thing from their dealer in Estonia for those kind of prices, I would say to go for it. If they had the boot, I think it would show on their drawing, but there is nothing wrong with contacting them directly to see if they sell it.
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Per Dorman Product manager:
"Hello Kyle,
Most of our drive shafts will differ from the OE. In this case, we did eliminate the need for the dust boot. It will not be required with our replacement shaft.
Thank you"
"Hello Kyle,
Most of our drive shafts will differ from the OE. In this case, we did eliminate the need for the dust boot. It will not be required with our replacement shaft.
Thank you"
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Thak you for your help.