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Old 10-10-2007, 12:17 PM
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Autocar test C63 v M3

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"There are many other things it does to a level that no other AMG product ever achieved.."

"This car feels far more serious than any previously AMG-fettled C Class; it's wider tracks and completely revised suspension hunker it down to the road surface. And the motor...well, the motor is majestically over-endowed for this application."

"..the C63 is a paradigm shift in direction"

"I can't think of a time when I would state, unequivacally, that a fast C class would have better steering than an M3, but that time has come."

And the winner is ....

Really ... I don't believe it ....

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the M3!

do you have a link?

The M car is a great piece of engineering and once it has DSG, I will look into it.

For now, the C63 is very practical, classy, sporty and has some "*****" to keep up.
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
the M3!

do you have a link?

The M car is a great piece of engineering and once it has DSG, I will look into it.

For now, the C63 is very practical, classy, sporty and has some "*****" to keep up.
No link, I typed it out from the magazine.

What slightly worries me, living in the UK with our bad roads, is that the M3 has softer suspension than the C63 with the sport suspension and rides better he says.. and this test was in Germany. The problem is the LSD only comes with the sports pack with the harder suspension. Ideally for the UK I think the LSD and 19inch wheels with the softer suspension would be the best all round package.

By the way, he rates the 7 speed auto highly due to the blips on downshifts etc. He used to long term test the old C55 wagon so he has a good base to compare. The tester also has an M3 on order so no bias either way.

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What were the performance numbers like?
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Originally Posted by gkstar
What were the performance numbers like?
Back to back subjective test but I do not think when the figures come out the C63 will be found wanting. Pretty equal I would guess.

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C32 AMG - in Pewter
Originally Posted by Andy7oaks
Back to back subjective test but I do not think when the figures come out the C63 will be found wanting. Pretty equal I would guess.

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I expect C63 to be better in most categories, based on specs I have seen. Until we see these, the jury is still out... E63 was consistently better than the M5 in the C&D review in the perf. numbers dept, will see how it comes here...

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so what car won?
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yeah, which car won...?
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What's the test price on both, in USD?
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so what car won?
I'm assuming the M3 won...cuz doesn't it always win?
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I'm assuming the M3 won...cuz doesn't it always win?
I have not heard of a performance review without any performance numbers, until now. If these guys do their reviews based on subjectives only, then you have to wonder. If they did not publish numbers on purpose, then the outcome is even more suspicious and subjective. I am sure many mags will review, will see...
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well... M3 is giong to have couple, sedan, and converable..... what's that about? It just kills the primary point!
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well... M3 is giong to have couple, sedan, and converable..... what's that about? It just kills the primary point!
I think they're worried about losing sales to the C63 and RS4 (which also will come in a conv, I believe). Not many people buy coupes.
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Can someone post a detailed review from the Auto car article, it is not ez to buy the weekly mag in USA, if it is ez to buy not sure wheere it can be bought as borders etc do not carry it
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The M3 won because at 10/10ths it gave the most back to the driver.

Performance figures were not given as it was a back to back in Germany and they do the figures when they are back in the UK at their normal testing location to give consistent results.

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