Nationwide e55 sedan auction price discovery
01-25-2015, 06:27 PM
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Nationwide e55 sedan auction price discovery
My service advisor helped me out today with these auction prices on e55 sedans... Thought I'd pass along to forum members in case you're looking to buy.
enjoy....
2006:
10/08/14 SEATTLE Regular $21,000 49,152 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
11/12/14 SF BAY Regular $17,500 73,946 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
12/18/14 TAMPA Regular $15,000 83,701 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
01/09/15 PA Regular $14,500 72,877 Avg BLUE 8G P Yes
01/21/15 STATESVL Regular $10,400 132,600 Below GRA 8G A Yes
01/22/15 TAMPA Regular $15,000 98,440 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
2005:
12/16/14 ATLANTA Regular $12,600 123,911 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
12/30/14 SEATTLE Regular $11,750 106,123 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
01/07/15 STATESVL Regular $17,000 65,680 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes
01/21/15 SAN DIEG Regular $8,500 202,240 Below SILVER 8G A No
01/21/15 NASHVILL Regular $13,200 97,341 Avg WHITE 8G A Yes
2004:
11/25/14 HOUSTON Regular $10,000 118,234 Avg SILVER 8G Yes
12/09/14 NYMETSKY Regular $8,200 115,012 Below BLACK 8G A Yes
01/07/15 SF BAY Regular $9,500 113,821 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
01/07/15 ATLANTA Regular $11,000 112,129 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
01/13/15 ORLANDO Lease $10,250 92,138 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
01/19/15 NC Regular $9,300 119,983 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
2003:
01/17/13 FRDKBURG Regular $17,400 73,049 Avg WHITE 8G A No
02/05/13 STATESVL Regular $12,600 123,665 Avg BLACK 8G A No
02/20/13 CEN FLA Regular $9,900 119,205 Avg SILVER 8G A No
02/27/13 DALLAS Regular $14,800 79,688 Avg GRAY 8G A No
03/07/13 ATLANTA Regular $8,600 152,871 Avg BLACK 8G A No
03/21/13 RIVRSIDE Lease $12,500 101,963 Avg GREY 8G A No
04/04/13 RIVRSIDE Regular $13,250 88,975 Avg SILVER 8G A No
05/22/13 CALIFORN Regular $11,000 111,439 Avg GREY 8G A No
06/13/13 PALM BCH Regular $15,200 59,984 Avg SILVER 8G A No
07/09/13 ORLANDO Regular $14,500 79,077 Avg SILVER 8G A No
08/07/13 SF BAY Regular $14,000 135,074 Avg SILVER 8G A No
08/29/13 DFW Regular $10,000 126,937 Avg SILVER 8G A No
09/27/13 DALLAS Regular $11,600 106,406 Avg BLACK 8G A No
10/02/13 TUCSON Regular $10,800 90,810 Avg GREY 8G A No
10/22/13 ARENA IL Regular $9,000 104,062 Avg SILVER 8G A No
10/24/13 CHICAGO Regular $16,600 40,856 Avg GRAY 8G A No
11/06/13 CALIFORN Regular $10,750 75,974 Avg SILVER 8G A No
11/26/13 GEORGIA Lease $9,200 80,298 Avg BLACK 8G A No
12/04/13 CALIFORN Lease $10,100 92,655 Avg BLACK 8G A No
01/07/14 OHIO Regular $11,700 95,956 Avg SILVER 8G A No
02/26/14 DALLAS Regular $13,500 57,371 Avg BLACK 8G A No
02/26/14 CEN FLA Lease $7,500 154,687 Avg SILVER 8G A No
03/06/14 PHOENIX Regular $8,900 120,601 Avg SILVER 8G A No
03/14/14 NC Regular $11,800 98,887 Avg DK BLUE 8G A No
03/20/14 TX HOBBY Regular $14,300 76,729 Avg GREY 8G A No
03/24/14 BALTWASH Regular $9,000 98,974 Avg SILVER A No
03/27/14 PALM BCH Regular $15,700 61,947 Avg SILVER 8G A No
04/02/14 CALIFORN Regular $6,000 129,093 Avg SILVER/B 8G A No
04/16/14 NJ Regular $8,600 132,127 Avg WHITE 8G A No
05/07/14 PITTSBGH Regular $13,000 99,944 Avg BLACK 8G A No
06/11/14 MILWAUKE Regular $9,000 134,514 Avg GRAY 8G A No
06/25/14 NEWORLNS Regular $11,900 89,838 Avg GRAY 8G A No
07/09/14 SAN ANTO Regular $13,600 74,756 Avg GRAY 8G A No
07/10/14 TX HOBBY Regular $11,500 105,927 Avg SILVER 8G A No
07/18/14 PA Regular $16,000 59,245 Avg SILVER 8G A No
07/24/14 SO CAL Regular $11,000 88,991 Avg BLACK 8G O No
08/15/14 PA Regular $12,000 91,920 Avg BLACK 8G P No
08/21/14 TX HOBBY Regular $12,200 72,958 Avg SILVER 8G A No
09/04/14 TX HOBBY Lease $11,800 72,960 Avg GREY 8G A No
09/10/14 MILWAUKE Regular $11,250 107,654 Avg BLACK 8G A No
09/11/14 ATLANTA Regular $15,700 56,078 Avg SILVER 8G A No
09/30/14 BALTWASH Regular $7,900 185,806 Avg BLACK 8G A No
01/13/15 ORLANDO Regular $13,200 66,075 Avg BLACK 8G A No
enjoy....
2006:
10/08/14 SEATTLE Regular $21,000 49,152 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
11/12/14 SF BAY Regular $17,500 73,946 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
12/18/14 TAMPA Regular $15,000 83,701 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
01/09/15 PA Regular $14,500 72,877 Avg BLUE 8G P Yes
01/21/15 STATESVL Regular $10,400 132,600 Below GRA 8G A Yes
01/22/15 TAMPA Regular $15,000 98,440 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
2005:
12/16/14 ATLANTA Regular $12,600 123,911 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
12/30/14 SEATTLE Regular $11,750 106,123 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
01/07/15 STATESVL Regular $17,000 65,680 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes
01/21/15 SAN DIEG Regular $8,500 202,240 Below SILVER 8G A No
01/21/15 NASHVILL Regular $13,200 97,341 Avg WHITE 8G A Yes
2004:
11/25/14 HOUSTON Regular $10,000 118,234 Avg SILVER 8G Yes
12/09/14 NYMETSKY Regular $8,200 115,012 Below BLACK 8G A Yes
01/07/15 SF BAY Regular $9,500 113,821 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
01/07/15 ATLANTA Regular $11,000 112,129 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
01/13/15 ORLANDO Lease $10,250 92,138 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
01/19/15 NC Regular $9,300 119,983 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
2003:
01/17/13 FRDKBURG Regular $17,400 73,049 Avg WHITE 8G A No
02/05/13 STATESVL Regular $12,600 123,665 Avg BLACK 8G A No
02/20/13 CEN FLA Regular $9,900 119,205 Avg SILVER 8G A No
02/27/13 DALLAS Regular $14,800 79,688 Avg GRAY 8G A No
03/07/13 ATLANTA Regular $8,600 152,871 Avg BLACK 8G A No
03/21/13 RIVRSIDE Lease $12,500 101,963 Avg GREY 8G A No
04/04/13 RIVRSIDE Regular $13,250 88,975 Avg SILVER 8G A No
05/22/13 CALIFORN Regular $11,000 111,439 Avg GREY 8G A No
06/13/13 PALM BCH Regular $15,200 59,984 Avg SILVER 8G A No
07/09/13 ORLANDO Regular $14,500 79,077 Avg SILVER 8G A No
08/07/13 SF BAY Regular $14,000 135,074 Avg SILVER 8G A No
08/29/13 DFW Regular $10,000 126,937 Avg SILVER 8G A No
09/27/13 DALLAS Regular $11,600 106,406 Avg BLACK 8G A No
10/02/13 TUCSON Regular $10,800 90,810 Avg GREY 8G A No
10/22/13 ARENA IL Regular $9,000 104,062 Avg SILVER 8G A No
10/24/13 CHICAGO Regular $16,600 40,856 Avg GRAY 8G A No
11/06/13 CALIFORN Regular $10,750 75,974 Avg SILVER 8G A No
11/26/13 GEORGIA Lease $9,200 80,298 Avg BLACK 8G A No
12/04/13 CALIFORN Lease $10,100 92,655 Avg BLACK 8G A No
01/07/14 OHIO Regular $11,700 95,956 Avg SILVER 8G A No
02/26/14 DALLAS Regular $13,500 57,371 Avg BLACK 8G A No
02/26/14 CEN FLA Lease $7,500 154,687 Avg SILVER 8G A No
03/06/14 PHOENIX Regular $8,900 120,601 Avg SILVER 8G A No
03/14/14 NC Regular $11,800 98,887 Avg DK BLUE 8G A No
03/20/14 TX HOBBY Regular $14,300 76,729 Avg GREY 8G A No
03/24/14 BALTWASH Regular $9,000 98,974 Avg SILVER A No
03/27/14 PALM BCH Regular $15,700 61,947 Avg SILVER 8G A No
04/02/14 CALIFORN Regular $6,000 129,093 Avg SILVER/B 8G A No
04/16/14 NJ Regular $8,600 132,127 Avg WHITE 8G A No
05/07/14 PITTSBGH Regular $13,000 99,944 Avg BLACK 8G A No
06/11/14 MILWAUKE Regular $9,000 134,514 Avg GRAY 8G A No
06/25/14 NEWORLNS Regular $11,900 89,838 Avg GRAY 8G A No
07/09/14 SAN ANTO Regular $13,600 74,756 Avg GRAY 8G A No
07/10/14 TX HOBBY Regular $11,500 105,927 Avg SILVER 8G A No
07/18/14 PA Regular $16,000 59,245 Avg SILVER 8G A No
07/24/14 SO CAL Regular $11,000 88,991 Avg BLACK 8G O No
08/15/14 PA Regular $12,000 91,920 Avg BLACK 8G P No
08/21/14 TX HOBBY Regular $12,200 72,958 Avg SILVER 8G A No
09/04/14 TX HOBBY Lease $11,800 72,960 Avg GREY 8G A No
09/10/14 MILWAUKE Regular $11,250 107,654 Avg BLACK 8G A No
09/11/14 ATLANTA Regular $15,700 56,078 Avg SILVER 8G A No
09/30/14 BALTWASH Regular $7,900 185,806 Avg BLACK 8G A No
01/13/15 ORLANDO Regular $13,200 66,075 Avg BLACK 8G A No
01-25-2015, 07:21 PM
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E 63S Wagon Renntech, E55 Renntech, SL65, SL 55 030, ML, bunch of old ones--they come, they go...
Hang on....
Being in and around the industry for nearly 40 years, I can tell you that the cars you see at these auctions are NOT the kind of cars that folks on these boards desire. Until you see them, you just cannot imagine how scary most of these cars are. And if it's the caliber car that we enthusiasts desire, then those auction prices are not relevant.
Just saying, be careful, the majority of the time, you get what you pay for.
Just saying, be careful, the majority of the time, you get what you pay for.
01-25-2015, 07:35 PM
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Being in and around the industry for nearly 40 years, I can tell you that the cars you see at these auctions are NOT the kind of cars that folks on these boards desire. Until you see them, you just cannot imagine how scary most of these cars are. And if it's the caliber car that we enthusiasts desire, then those auction prices are not relevant.
Just saying, be careful, the majority of the time, you get what you pay for.
Just saying, be careful, the majority of the time, you get what you pay for.
01-25-2015, 07:51 PM
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E 63S Wagon Renntech, E55 Renntech, SL65, SL 55 030, ML, bunch of old ones--they come, they go...
Mmmm, no.
This is Manheim data. Even though they offer a CR (condition report) at auction, all cars don't reach the block or have CR's. If you've ever seen the way that cars look when they come in from auction, you know that 1) above average means only two or three panels painted and two mismatched tires, 2) average means hit only on one side, and 3) below means hit by a bus or an airplane. As far as margins, remember that these figures do not include: auction fees, transport, any other repairs (if they make them), and reconditioning (if they do it). Even if these things are dealt with, you still have only an average car at best.
Only trying to say, if you want a special car, you aint gonna find it there. No free lunch.
Only trying to say, if you want a special car, you aint gonna find it there. No free lunch.
01-25-2015, 08:01 PM
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. . . "above average means only two or three panels painted and two mismatched tires" . . .
so you're saying every car that has ever sold at a manhiem auction has been painted? I was completely unaware of this
so you're saying every car that has ever sold at a manhiem auction has been painted? I was completely unaware of this
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This is Manheim data. Even though they offer a CR (condition report) at auction, all cars don't reach the block or have CR's. If you've ever seen the way that cars look when they come in from auction, you know that 1) above average means only two or three panels painted and two mismatched tires, 2) average means hit only on one side, and 3) below means hit by a bus or an airplane. As far as margins, remember that these figures do not include: auction fees, transport, any other repairs (if they make them), and reconditioning (if they do it). Even if these things are dealt with, you still have only an average car at best.
Only trying to say, if you want a special car, you aint gonna find it there. No free lunch.
Only trying to say, if you want a special car, you aint gonna find it there. No free lunch.
That was always my gut feeling about auction cars.....LOL! Thanks for clarifying those condition ratings.
It's pretty clear that an E55 at an auction is there for a reason. Either the condition is poor, it doesn't have a good service history, or it's just so badly worn out that the costs to bring it back are simply too high.....
The Manheim data seems like a useful way to figure out a "worst case value" for the E55, but I'd certainly laugh at anyone trying to use this data to establish values of a "real" E55.
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E 63S Wagon Renntech, E55 Renntech, SL65, SL 55 030, ML, bunch of old ones--they come, they go...
Sorry for the obvious satire...
And everyone doesn't want or need a special (read: above or far above average) car. It doesn't mean that much to some folks. I just figure that it does to the guys on this board. Most people just have a real inaccurate idea of what these auctions are like. Hey, every once in a while you can find a gold nugget in a pile of sand. Just not very often...
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01-26-2015, 12:55 PM
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Thanks for the info!
As others have mentioned, it's difficult to determine the true value of the car due to not seeing the car in person and that auction cars may be at an auction for a reason.
But it's good data nonetheless. Thanks for sharing!
As others have mentioned, it's difficult to determine the true value of the car due to not seeing the car in person and that auction cars may be at an auction for a reason.
But it's good data nonetheless. Thanks for sharing!
01-26-2015, 05:01 PM
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13' E350 4matic, 08' E63
OP- Can you get a list of E63's for 07-09 please. That might be nice to see also in comparison.
1. ALL Auction cars are not bad cars to get. Typically if a Mazda dealer gets a 07 E63 in no matter what mileage they will send it to a auction. That goes for any dealer that doesn't want to deal with older model cars, higher mileage cars etc..... A lot of dealers finances won't go back 6 years on a car to finance either. Now specialty lenders which are plenty will. But that doesn't mean the cars themselves are bad.
2. I have been around MANY high end auction cars. Issues I have seen are what have been mentioned. Panels that have been painted. Bumpers which have been re-sprayed on a corner but not matched to color. Brakes and rotors need replacing. Of the ones I have seen and its been hundreds at a certain dealer, they typically correct these issues.
3. Common issue is lights on dashes start popping up unexpectantley. Might be an easy fix, but might be expensive.
4. I wouldn't run from one, MINE IS A AUCTION CAR, but carfax had a decent history, most don't, but that doesn't mean much. Only if the or a dealer inputted it into the system. No lights on mine, no paint except where I re-sprayed the bumpers and rockers to make it perfect.
I never trust any work done on a car unless its documented or I have had it done. I will take a car and go through each step of Flushing and replacing till I know its safe again. My last step on mine is differential flush which is Thursday.
5. ANY car you buy falls into this category. Just cause you bought at a MB dealer doesn't mean its a perfect good car. But...... a auction car you really don't know condition till you truly see it in person. That is difficult to swallow. I worked a deal with my dealer that if I didnt like it I won't buy it. They paid an extra 1k at the auction that if it wasn't in the condition listed, they can return it themselves. They do this on every car they get, just in case.
In the end, just be careful, not every good deal is a good deal. If you want a good one, and your on here, find one from a member or if selling one, use these lists for a guide to what you will get from yours. These prices are fair but maybe not for a exceptional car like most of ours. Ours really should typically garner more money, but they need to be advertised correctly to get that. Educate your buyers in the ads.
Just some thoughts
1. ALL Auction cars are not bad cars to get. Typically if a Mazda dealer gets a 07 E63 in no matter what mileage they will send it to a auction. That goes for any dealer that doesn't want to deal with older model cars, higher mileage cars etc..... A lot of dealers finances won't go back 6 years on a car to finance either. Now specialty lenders which are plenty will. But that doesn't mean the cars themselves are bad.
2. I have been around MANY high end auction cars. Issues I have seen are what have been mentioned. Panels that have been painted. Bumpers which have been re-sprayed on a corner but not matched to color. Brakes and rotors need replacing. Of the ones I have seen and its been hundreds at a certain dealer, they typically correct these issues.
3. Common issue is lights on dashes start popping up unexpectantley. Might be an easy fix, but might be expensive.
4. I wouldn't run from one, MINE IS A AUCTION CAR, but carfax had a decent history, most don't, but that doesn't mean much. Only if the or a dealer inputted it into the system. No lights on mine, no paint except where I re-sprayed the bumpers and rockers to make it perfect.
I never trust any work done on a car unless its documented or I have had it done. I will take a car and go through each step of Flushing and replacing till I know its safe again. My last step on mine is differential flush which is Thursday.
5. ANY car you buy falls into this category. Just cause you bought at a MB dealer doesn't mean its a perfect good car. But...... a auction car you really don't know condition till you truly see it in person. That is difficult to swallow. I worked a deal with my dealer that if I didnt like it I won't buy it. They paid an extra 1k at the auction that if it wasn't in the condition listed, they can return it themselves. They do this on every car they get, just in case.
In the end, just be careful, not every good deal is a good deal. If you want a good one, and your on here, find one from a member or if selling one, use these lists for a guide to what you will get from yours. These prices are fair but maybe not for a exceptional car like most of ours. Ours really should typically garner more money, but they need to be advertised correctly to get that. Educate your buyers in the ads.
Just some thoughts
01-26-2015, 07:58 PM
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Yeah those are some good points. Two of my cars were sold at auction at one point in their life.
My SA is out of the office until next week. I'm not sure he's going to want to run another search though, he kinda did it as a favor to me since I've serviced my Mercedes with him. Maybe someone else on the forum has account access?
My SA is out of the office until next week. I'm not sure he's going to want to run another search though, he kinda did it as a favor to me since I've serviced my Mercedes with him. Maybe someone else on the forum has account access?
