//AMG55lover

Those pictures are from the (Dutch) Autoweek in July 2005!

I'm not sure or somebody have seen them already, but I like to share them!

cantdriveonly55

Thanks for the pictures! Any accompanying article? You sure you dont mean July 2006?? 05 is awfully long ago for an S63 that close to production!

//AMG55lover

Absolute #29/13-20 july 2005!

The pictures are been taking even before introduction W221 on IAA Frankfurt! The artikel is in Dutch and suggested that this will be the topversion....

Far before intoduction of the S 65!

hayden

well at least we'll know it's been thoroughly tested.

AsianML

The front looks too much like the AMG Package for the S550.

Like the rear end though.

SL65AMG V12

Agreed!

Take the badges off and I'll think its just another S550 w. AMG sport pack...

Having the S63 released after the S65 is going to make the S63 seem somewhat underwhelming...not that it is though.

Germancar1

Yeah there is no real way to tell what engine is present. I hope that when MB does present the S63 it looks slightly different from the S65 and S550 with the AMG package.

M

//AMG55lover

The S 63 will come in autumn 2006 with more or less 575hp (same engine as in the E63 but with twinturbo).

And the same 5 speed gearbox as the S65, because the 7 speed gearbox can't handle the torque!

That wat my dealer told me, he said that he have driven already a pre-production car at AMG!

Germancar1

I believe that. There is no way the engine isn the S63 would be the same as in the E63 that would make the S63 slower then the old S55. Now I wonder what they'll boost the S65 too in order to keep it comfortable ahead of the S63? Maybe 650hp? I do hope they give the S63 a slightly different, even more agressive look than the S65. It should handle better too because of less weight in the nose compared to the V12 S65.

M

//AMG55lover

I don't think that there will be a more aggressive look than the S65. That must be kept the topversion and the S65 wouldn’t be getting an upgrade the next coming 3 or 4 years! Just because there is no competitor!

GMBALL

Hey, whats up with those rims? Arent they the ones that stock CLS500 gets?

Nevada Jack

They look like the AMG package rims for the S550 to me...

//AMG55lover

Yes, they are the same!

ClayJ

Talked to one of my sources today: no S63 in the works according to him.

They tightened up the steering, added next-generation ABC, and switched to stiffer bushings on the new S65 to tighten it up; and increased cooling for the engine with venting -- but the S65 is going to stay with the M275(?) bi-turbo V12 for now, according to him....

//AMG55lover

There is no doubt about coming a S 63 yes or no!

And it's not replacing the S 65, it just replace the W220 S 55!

This e-mail gives you the answer:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....10&postcount=1

Flyingphil1st

Navadajack, how do you own and drive a 2007 car?

Germancar1

???????????

M

deedee

Simply because that really is a 2007 model..... but went on sale at early 2006..

just like first year SL-class...............

//AMG55lover

That's the way they call it in US when the car is later as (I thought) june of the year. Than they call it a next year version! But actually a 2007 it's just a 2006 one!

In Europe we name a 2006 registered car from 1th january till 31th december 2006, an 2006 car!

Probably it's a marketing issue from many years ago, for the dealers to sell an second-half-year registered car for a better price!


Maybe somebody from US can explain this better!

Nevada Jack

Very nicely...

Mercedes introduced the car as a 2007 and in the US the cars are registered in the state by model year designated by the manufacturer Certificate of Origin. Ask MB why they called it a 2007...marketing has a lot to do with it.

//AMG55lover

Ok, but not only MB do this like this way, other brands does the same thing. We don't know this system in Europe.

Probably one started with this and other brands followed!

So now it's the standard and time to turn it back. Because it's actually deceiving!

whoover

Historically, new models have been introduced in September. Detroit used the summer break, when workers took their vacations, to retool the assembly lines. Everyone come back after the Labor Day holiday and went back to work producing "next year's" models. More affluent customers bought them in September while more sensible consumers bought the current model at summer sales. This whole system made a fair amount of sense and kept the wheels of commerce greased.

Ford, GM and Chrysler each tried to launch their new models a bit ahead of the others. Someone (Ford, I think) came up with "1/2 year" concept and artifically launched models far ahead of the fall. I think this started with the famous 1964 1/2 Ford Mustang. Then marketing decided they might have well have called it a 1965, and manufacturers began the current deceptive practice, based on the fact that cars depreciate in the US based on registration model year, not build date. I must admit I was disappointed in Mercedes for carrying this as far as releasing a "2007 model" in January of 2006. Caveat emptor.

Flyingphil1st

Only in American would they call something, something other than what it actually is.....

Here in Australia - like the rest of the world (American exempted) we call a car by the year it actually is.

Its a bit like the how the Americans call some 4WDs "sports utility vehicles", when actually they're useless off road, so they've got no more utility purpose than a traditional wagon and they're less sporty than a normal sedan!

Germancar1

So in your market you won't get the 07' S-Class late in 06'? Cars in America are introduced at all times of the year now, most of the imports are introduced in the spring to take advantage of the spring buying season. Summer is the next most popular time, which MB does most of the new model introductions now, like July/August. There was a time when MB didn't introduce a new model car until November 1st. Times have changed so much now.

There are several reasons why our S-Class is a 2007 being introduced in Feb 2006. Firstly the new S went on sale in Europe in Sept 05' as an 06' I think and MB doesn't launch cars at the same time worldwide, that would strain production and more importantly quality. Secondly during 2005 you can't sell a 2007 model by law, it has to be a 2006 or 2005 and since our car lagged the Euro introduction by like 5 months they had to produce a enough W220s to keep our market afloat until the new car could get here, which makes our last W220s 2006s. If you can understand all that...lol!

M

absent

At least we don't have to pay these crazy taxes you are stuck with.....