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MBfinatic 09-04-2012 08:25 PM

LOL my friend was just telling me the same thing. Must be a good idea!

MBfinatic 09-07-2012 06:42 PM

Just bought the 190 e! Pictures soon! She sure is ugly!

MBfinatic 09-09-2012 10:42 AM

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onetwentyfour 09-21-2012 11:27 AM

Loom good enough. The body looks decent. You're on your way.

MBfinatic 09-21-2012 11:34 AM

Getting my new motor and tranny tomorow :)

onetwentyfour 09-21-2012 11:43 AM

Im looking into an 8.8 for mine. You're well on your way. When does the surgery start?

FinalDrive 04-20-2013 03:26 AM

is it possible to swap a carbeurated chevy 350 with a 5 speed standard trans into a 95 S500 looking to do this conversion soon wondering how easy it will be the car has a stock 5.0 litre mercedes V8 and removing the engine wiring harness does not affect the non engine electrics of the car hoping to build a dead simple carb'd car out of this car the stock engines wiring harness's on these are notoriously terrible and cost an arm and a leg to replace mine is already toast and just wondering how easy it would be to swap a 350 into it and bypass all the engine electrics, theres tons of room in the engine bay so i would imagine it would fit easily. any advice?

vanir 04-20-2013 06:55 PM

Something about swapping a 60s iron block ohv american domestic engine into a 90s Mercedes to replace its dohc/variable-intake M119 Group C/Le Mans race engine homologation reminds me of the term cutting off your nose to spite your face.

In performance terms, all marketing claims aside the net power of a 70s Corvette 350 "high performance engine" gives away 100-150hp to the M119 with none of the flexibility, efficiency or several other virtues anywhere to be seen. In tech terms the amount of money to re-engineer the ancient OHV small block to qualitive standard of the DOHC M119 would cost as much as rebuilding the the car to a showroom standard, with none of the performance and sheer futility in achieving anything like its marque.

You might as well toss a 60s Sköda engine into it. Why not just buy an American car?
Or better yet, repair the M119 and seek an experienced German tuning shop and custom fabricators to source parts if you'd like to warm it over.

FinalDrive 04-20-2013 09:14 PM

I'm not interested in doing the swap for power purposes or for racing, I'm doing it for fuel economy reliability and ease of repair, where I live (Canada) Mercedes especially S500 parts are difficult to come by and come and an exceptionally high price 700$ for a used wiring harness that only might repair the issues this engine is having not to mention what else it might require, I am however familiar with working on and mainting domestic engines and parts are everywhere for these I could pick up an entire Chevy 350 with a 5 speed transmission for less than 500$ and I will know that it works on the economy side I have some blueprints for a device that uses a throttle body injection system and some other parts to increase furl economy to the point where it will be far better than anything I could do with the factory Mercedes engine, not to mentioned I won't have all these over engineered poorly designed Electrics to deal with (yes they are poorly designed Mercedes admitted as such when they did a factory recall on the wiring harnesses of these cars) I'm just looking for advice on performing this swap not suggestions to avoid it as I am not interested in dealing with Mercedes electrical systems on my car and would just like to put a cheap effective easy to maintain engine into my car.

MartinezTammy 04-20-2013 10:55 PM

Hey what trans and rear end are you using. Details man details!http://xin70.info/9.jpg

jamesleeworks 05-14-2013 07:41 PM

10000000 thumbs up CONGRADS love that idea putting reliable V8 into that car! you can go track the sh@*(t out of it all day long..........

I am going to do the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sunny1 06-14-2013 05:01 AM

awesome build

Sir-Boost-a-Lot 06-14-2013 01:58 PM

Read the thread and understand what it's about before responding. No where at any time did anyone mention an antique iron 350 Chevy engine so I'm not sure where you imagined that from.

This guy put in an aluminum 5.7 from a recent vintage C5/z28 that will make double the power of the MB powertrain , similar weight and likely get better fuel economy as well.


Originally Posted by vanir (Post 5620321)
Something about swapping a 60s iron block ohv american domestic engine into a 90s Mercedes to replace its dohc/variable-intake M119 Group C/Le Mans race engine homologation reminds me of the term cutting off your nose to spite your face.

In performance terms, all marketing claims aside the net power of a 70s Corvette 350 "high performance engine" gives away 100-150hp to the M119 with none of the flexibility, efficiency or several other virtues anywhere to be seen. In tech terms the amount of money to re-engineer the ancient OHV small block to qualitive standard of the DOHC M119 would cost as much as rebuilding the the car to a showroom standard, with none of the performance and sheer futility in achieving anything like its marque.

You might as well toss a 60s Sköda engine into it. Why not just buy an American car?
Or better yet, repair the M119 and seek an experienced German tuning shop and custom fabricators to source parts if you'd like to warm it over.


MBWorld Editor 12-28-2016 02:11 PM

Front page news!
 
Any updates? Inquiring minds want to know!
https://mbworld.org/articles/from-th...truly-awesome/

Turbo? 12-29-2016 02:07 PM

@Gen3benz


What brake setup you are going with?
Been doing research on a similar project. Looking to do an L33 hybrid 190e racecar build.

TobiasMB 12-29-2016 04:30 PM

Yes, My 190/5.8 is for sale
 
My 190 track car is for sale for sure as it is now retired. I'm in the finish stages of a new faster build, a Porsche 944 with a 358 NASCAR engine in it!!
This will be around 2450 lbs and 700hp/ 8400rpm redline:eek:

For pictures and current information on the 450hp/410tq 5 speed 190, got to Racerconnect.com, then go to track cars, time trial and it is listed there. The only change not shown is that I was running 295/35-17 Hoosier R6 tires on the rear using 10X17" 3pc wheels. These were 'borrowed' from the front of the 944 under construction!

If the car doesn't sell by Spring, it will be parted out. At that time, I will be back to post individual parts with prices FOB, NC.

A few months back I was chasing down some Porsche GT3s at VIR which really ticked them off. Some knew the car, others that were new to VIR or from well out of the area didn't know about it, but learned quickly:rolf:

Any questions, feel free to ask....
Toby

Turbo? 12-30-2016 01:33 PM

Awesome! I sent you a PM'd @TobiasMB

Let me know if you can help!

TobiasMB 12-31-2016 01:24 AM

Message box empty today...
 
I would try to help you but there are no new messages in my box since March, 2016! Yours hasn't made it in yet? Suggest trying again!

Toby

Turbo? 01-04-2017 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by TobiasMB (Post 7010242)
I would try to help you but there are no new messages in my box since March, 2016! Yours hasn't made it in yet? Suggest trying again!

Toby

Don't know what happened,

Sent you another one!
Thanks!

Gen3Benz 01-10-2017 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by MBWorld Editor (Post 7007443)
Any updates? Inquiring minds want to know!
https://mbworld.org/articles/from-th...truly-awesome/

Still have the car. Sitting in the air in the shop....
Talk about the longest project ever.

MacVidMB-V8 01-11-2017 03:48 AM

Knock it out by August for the 10 year anniversary !

Turbo? 01-18-2017 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Gen3Benz (Post 7021317)
Still have the car. Sitting in the air in the shop....
Talk about the longest project ever.

What brakes are you running?
Also do you have the original engine mount CAD files?

PSB 06-15-2017 06:54 PM

Encore Please!

FutureAMGxx 01-30-2018 04:54 PM

Is this project still in the works? Any updates?

MacMade300 03-06-2019 02:24 PM

Anything? Anything?

Bueller?

Please tell us us this thing is running by now


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