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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Automatic transmission question.

found a 1992 190e 2.3 16v for a good deal want to turbo it.

will the stock auto transmission hold about 5-10 psi of boost?

that should be like 250-300 hp right?
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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super charge it!
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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would that be an easier project to do?

i have messed with other turbo cars (mazda's,honda's) there pretty tough when it comes to forced induction on stock parts. how would the 2.3 litre motor and auto tranny hold up to either turbo or supercharger?

i imagine the super chager would be easier on parts than a turbo but what kind of hp could i see from a stock motor with a supercharger

ive seen some people on here that look like they have a stock mercedes supercharger off another car on these engines what year and model and car does the charger come from and are they using stand alone or just bigger injectors on stock fuel system and ecu??

just wondering im new to mercedes and want to see if i can do a project like this before i buy the car...
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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look into it i dont know much about it, all ive heard is people supercharging mercedes sorry i cant help more
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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thanks for the idea no problem i can look it up.

my idea to turbo was to buy a used ihi vf-40 turbo and use a stock exhaust manifold as my turbo manifold just cut the stock one off so the turbo flange would be parrallel with the ground and put the turbo on that way.

and maybe up the injector size and fuel pump to compensate for the extra air. hopefully i could run 5-10 psi of boost without having to go standalone on the fuel system.

hopefully i could find a place to retune the stock ecu chip for boost or something.

just some ideas im throwing around in my head.

figure i could do the turbo setup for less than 500 dollars doing all the work myself and idk how much the fuel side would cost but i think i could achieve decent power for less than 1000 dollars.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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either way messing with the fuel is gonna suck stand alone systems gonna cost alot and be a constant headache and using the old system wont be alot of fun either idk i just think it would be a lot easier to put in a super charger hah a home made kompressor
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 02:22 AM
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I think that trans could handle it.
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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what supercharger would you recomend?
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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There was no 2.3-16 in 1992

5 psi of boost is going to get you around 225 bhp, is going to require extra fuel otherwise you're going to fry valves. The auto trans, if in pristine condition, is probably good to 275+
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:54 AM
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I have two superchargers in my garage. Both are from M111 2.3 engines. One has a clutch the other is fixed.

I have thought about putting one on my 87 but I don't want to do all that work, I would rather just do a full engine swap.
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I wonder if a 722.5 would bolt on to a M102???
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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how many valves do the 2.3 litre cars from 1992 have. is it the 8 valve model???

i thought about this while i was up sick all night...

i have a turbo kit for a gsxr1100 i could possibly saw off the intake manifold on this car so that the throttle bodies from this kit will fit on it then put the plenum on the throttle bodies.

could also use the fuel side ecu side from this kit to control the efi(has 400cc injectors).

idk if it would work with stock ecu but it was just an idea.

then that would solve my fuel and intake problem plus it would awsome to have itb's and efi with a turbo on a car...

idk just spit ballin here...
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Yes 8 valve
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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thx thats my bad or rather i think i guy whos selling the car. idk much about mercedes just lookin into buyin a 190e and slap a turbo on it.

i just sold a turbo mx6 i had and im addcited to forced induction now lol...
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"Slap a turbo" on a Mercedes . . . good luck with that.

As they say "If it were easy, everyone would be doing it."
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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check out 190revolution.net
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most annoying issue is converting it to efi if you plan on running more than 5psi
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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a 190e 3.2 24v would have the power your looking for. search youtube for it
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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i know you cant slap a turbo on anything.

i think i am goin to buy the silvercosworth efi kit and run the car on that for a while then turbo the car.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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i think i am goin to buy the silvercosworth efi kit and run the car on that for a while then turbo the car.
Best of luck with that too . . . he's backlogged on orders and hasn't gotten complete kits to people who ordered and paid last year.
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i just recently emailed him and he said he could ship it out next day.

maybe he lied to me.
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this question is kinda of topic in this thread but im christmas shopping for myself right now and i am wondering how large the first aid kit compartment is? like length and width.

i am wanting to install a 12" or 15" kicker solobaric sub in that whole and then build the box under the rear deck but i need to know how big the whole is before i can buy the sub.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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thx for that info.

i dont think i will be buyin his kit i dont have alot of money and no way will i send my money and wait for that long...

and that post about the rear deck doesnt tell me the size. i guess a 15" will fit back there i will run it off a 1000 rms watt kicker amp
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Better budget for all the dynamat or similar to handle all the rattles from the trunk.
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i just got me 100 sqft of fatmat. itll be ok
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