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Old Oct 8, 2024 | 06:56 PM
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190 E EVO wheels

in the link below they show Sport 190 E wheels for sale . They are 15 inch but 7 inches wide. Is this correct which 190 came with 16inch wheels

https://www.ebay.com/itm/18640677087...3ABFBMoKOJ5c1k
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Old Oct 9, 2024 | 11:09 AM
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Ask the seller for the offset on those rims but they appear to be EVO-1 rims in very poor condition.
If you would rather have the R129 EVO 16 inch rims they will be in better condition generally and more readily available and therefore not so expensive.
This is because R129's have lower usage/mileage.
I picked up a set locally a few years ago for half that price and in pretty decent condition.
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Old Oct 9, 2024 | 01:28 PM
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They also look to me to be EVO I wheels. The 16v came with 16 inch wheels.
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Old Oct 9, 2024 | 09:30 PM
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thanks for the info but the issue is them being 7 inch rims. Vs the normal 6 and 6 1/2 rims I find on 190E
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Old Oct 10, 2024 | 06:41 PM
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Yes I know, if 7" is what you would like in gully rims, those are the ones you want but you will spend another $700 refurbishing those.
Those are hard to find rims because so few were made. They would have the correct offset (check with the seller)

There are other 7" gully rims from the S class (W126) but their offset is too small (ET25) and they do not work.

What I was suggesting was 8" wide 16" diameter gullys (R129) that can potentially be a quarter of that price because you can find them and may not have to refurbish them.
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Old Oct 12, 2024 | 01:07 PM
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Dolucasi: wheel specs below

7J 15H2
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What do you think?How would this effect the size tire i put on it.
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Old Oct 12, 2024 | 03:20 PM
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Yes those are the Cossworth 16V rims with the correct offset. If you put 190/60-15's on them you may not have to push out the front of the fender a bit.

The other option I suppose is 205/50-15 is another option. 205/55's would be too big in the front and would require quite a bit of adjustment IMHO.

But check with willtheyfit website.
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Old Oct 17, 2024 | 12:34 PM
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Those are definitely 16V stock wheels. They were also used on regular Sportlines (non limited editions)
$700 is kind of high-I usually see those trade hands for around $200-$300.
I run 15x7 ET 37 monoblocks using the stock 205/55/15 tire size from 16V/sportline. As a note I do have spaced front fenders.
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OK, I needs some options, First my 190 is standard looking but I want to get it mostly original. I will be putting new shock and springs all around. I do not want to do any fender roll maybe spacer ( if I know more about the process) Would I better just staying with 15 inch rim but going up to 6 1/5 or 7 like the EVO (price a factor) or going to16 inch rim. Would like the car to maintain the stock look but little beefier. Am I dreaming. I willing to go up to 500 maybe higher to get the right look. Thanks
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It is all possible but it costs quite a bit of funds to get there.
Actually I did pretty much what you are wanting to do:

(1) Swapping stock springs with MB sportline springs (<$200 if used, ~$600 if bought new from MB, they still had a good stock in Germany 5 years ago)
(2) Swapping front anti roll bar from stock to Sportline (New MB was about ~$200)
(3) Replace only front shocks with Bilstein H8 sport (~$350). Leave the rears alone unless you want to also replace rear roll bar which is difficult. This balances the roll because believe it or not the rear sportline roll bar is actually softer than a standard roll bar. So if you leave the regular shocks in that is almost the same as replacing both. You can save $300 by not changing anything in the rear suspension. This is what I have and I actually have a brand new MB roll bar in my attic. I never bothered to install it and also replace the shocks as mine were new MB standard Sachs.
(4) Rims, for the original look go for the 16 inch R129 rims with 205/50R16 tires. Continentals are good. - This will set you back $1000 with new tires.
(5) When done, if you have $50 to spare, you can put a sportline sticker on the moldings.
(6) When replacing springs you may need to swap the rubber pads for the springs. You need can drop the suspension as much as 1/2 inch.

So you need ~$2000 in the long run if you DIY all of this, a whole lot more if you have others do the work.

This is the look you get with these swaps. I'm also happy with the vast improvement in the ride. It was worth the effort and I used all MB parts except sportline shocks which were NLA.




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I forgot that I also added rear headrest that are part of the sportline package. I got the brackets and headrests from a sportline at the Junkyard. That is probably an additional $100 these days.
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dolucasi
It is all possible but it costs quite a bit of funds to get there.
Actually I did pretty much what you are wanting to do:

(1) Swapping stock springs with MB sportline springs (<$200 if used, ~$600 if bought new from MB, they still had a good stock in Germany 5 years ago)
(2) Swapping front anti roll bar from stock to Sportline (New MB was about ~$200)
(3) Replace only front shocks with Bilstein H8 sport (~$350). Leave the rears alone unless you want to also replace rear roll bar which is difficult. This balances the roll because believe it or not the rear sportline roll bar is actually softer than a standard roll bar. So if you leave the regular shocks in that is almost the same as replacing both. You can save $300 by not changing anything in the rear suspension. This is what I have and I actually have a brand new MB roll bar in my attic. I never bothered to install it and also replace the shocks as mine were new MB standard Sachs.
(4) Rims, for the original look go for the 16 inch R129 rims with 205/50R16 tires. Continentals are good. - This will set you back $1000 with new tires.
(5) When done, if you have $50 to spare, you can put a sportline sticker on the moldings.
(6) When replacing springs you may need to swap the rubber pads for the springs. You need can drop the suspension as much as 1/2 inch.

So you need ~$2000 in the long run if you DIY all of this, a whole lot more if you have others do the work.

This is the look you get with these swaps. I'm also happy with the vast improvement in the ride. It was worth the effort and I used all MB parts except sportline shocks which were NLA.

Your hard work shows. Your car looks great.
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190E fan - I like yuor set up expecially on the springs. and 16 inch rims. I checked https://www.mboemparts.com/v-1991-me...spension-front for springs and there are so many options, Im not sure what would fit my 2.3 auto. They price looks pretty good too. Do you have a part number or suggestion. I want to order the front springs.
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I think that question was intended for me. I do not have the spring part numbers any longer. If you are anywhere near a dealership just visit them.
Perhaps Dave Kost can send you his sportline VIN privately as the parts person will not help you without a VIN number.

The only difference with the 2.3 is that the car will sit a little taller because of the reduced weight. So you may have to cut the spring 1/2 - 1 turn to achieve the proper ride height. The ride height is a trial and error issue, but you should start with the minimum pad thickness (8mm?) and see how it looks. You also have to let it settle for a few weeks before deciding.
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Old Jan 26, 2025 | 01:01 PM
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Just saw this wheel , Will it fit my 1991 2.3

1990-1994 Mercedes R129 16x8 Wheel Rim OEM 500SL 300SL Spare Like New 1294010602,they are 16 inch . ET 34 ( 8Jx16xH2)
recently purchased one but slightly different part number. 1294000102ET 34 ( 8Jx16xH2) I wonder why the parts number are different. Im hoping it will fits.

My thoughts are to buy these and put them on the rear until I can find two more or a whole set
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It seems the 2 part numbers are interchangeable. At least they are sold that way. If you like I can check my part numbers tomorrow morning.
If you found them cheap that is an option to just do the rears first but make sure the diameter of the rear and the front tires are within a couple of percent otherwise your ABS warning light will turn on and it will disable the ABS.
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