190E (W201) 1982-1993: 190E 2.3, 190E 2.6, 190E 2.3-16, 190E 2.5-16, 190 D 2.2, 190 D 2.5, 190 D 2.5 TURBO, 190E 2.5-16 Evolution I, 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II

Curb weight of 190e

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Old May 16, 2025 | 02:51 PM
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I can see where he’s coming from: I’m very comfortable with electronic fuel injection, but KE-Jetronic is like wizardry. I haven’t fully understood it yet, despite purchasing a book about it and reading it a couple times. Maybe the next few reads will drive the point home.

Despite my shortcomings with KE-Jet, I’m inclined to learn more about it and keep the system on my car.

It’s really a shame about 190rev. There was a lot of useful information about these antiquated systems.

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Old May 17, 2025 | 02:14 AM
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If you have questions about KE-Jet, ask away. I happened to have learned enough to be dangerous. The EHA gauge on my dash tell most the story.

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Old May 17, 2025 | 08:42 PM
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I will when I start digging into this car again!

I am very curious about your EHA gauge. It sounds like a helpful diagnostic tool. From what I’ve briefly read so far, you’re tapping into the EHA circuit?
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Originally Posted by smgak
I will when I start digging into this car again!

I am very curious about your EHA gauge. It sounds like a helpful diagnostic tool. From what I’ve briefly read so far, you’re tapping into the EHA circuit?
Mercedes/Bosch had a breakout harness to tap into one of the wires for reading EHA current at the EHA plug. I did the same and pulled the wire into the center console so the current goes thru the current meter.
I made my own harness but one can just buy a harness available online and retrofit it.
The gauge is linear from +20mA to -20mA range to see detail, but goes logarithmic from +/-20mA to +/-60mA. So it is a custom design.

Because the EHA current is the one single output of the entire fueling system it pretty much shows what functions work or do not and if the current is in spec all the time.
This is why I suggest any 35+ year old CIS engine car needs this. If I have enough interest I will order a batch, my second car needs it too.

It is a very good compliment to reading CIS manuals because there are details of the system not explained in those manuals that you can see in action of the gauge.

For the time being read up on the manuals though and if you have questions, ask away...
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Old Jun 3, 2025 | 08:32 AM
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Someone who admits they don't have the skills to work on the W201 KE-Jetronic fuel injection system is in way over their heads swapping engines and transmissions to non-oem products. Just my 2 cents.
I think my succus in doing so is proof you are wrong. Also not wanting to deal with an antiquated system doesn't mean i cant. you make a lot of assumptions and we all know what that makes you. why don't you just climb in to you purity cave and cry about it.
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Old Jun 3, 2025 | 12:13 PM
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I think my succus in doing so is proof you are wrong. Also not wanting to deal with an antiquated system doesn't mean i cant. you make a lot of assumptions and we all know what that makes you. why don't you just climb in to you purity cave and cry about it.
Your previous posts indicating the difficulty you were having speak for themselves. Your view that you know more than the engineers who designed your car is the wrong attitude to have..
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Old Jun 4, 2025 | 09:42 AM
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Your previous posts indicating the difficulty you were having speak for themselves. Your view that you know more than the engineers who designed your car is the wrong attitude to have..
You are so pompous its entertaining. I bet you are fun at parties. The simple fact is i have forgot more about cars than you likely will ever know. When i am driving around in my k swapped 190e ill think of you and smile.
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Getting back to the original intent of this post "curb weight", my original has manual seats. The one under restoration had auto seats that were in leather and somewhat aged.
When I swapped them from the JY find dark brown those were manual seats (which I much prefer, and the natural cup holder comes with them without wasting much needed space in a small 190E interior).

During the swap I noticed I can barely lift an '88 auto seat. So must be like 60-70 pounds each. The Manual mb-tx seats are much lighter and felt like 40-50 pounds.
So in a car perhaps 40-50 pounds of difference for the 2 of them.

Even the manual seats are heavy and if replaced with something different more weight can be shed.

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You are so pompous its entertaining. I bet you are fun at parties. The simple fact is i have forgot more about cars than you likely will ever know. When i am driving around in my k swapped 190e ill think of you and smile.
You just keep up your bad attitude that you know more about cars than the engineers who designed your car. I have a news flash for you, you don't and you never will. FYI, I was raised by an engineer who was a member of the Society of Automotive Engineers who taught me everything I know about cars. I couldn't have had a more knowledgeable teacher.
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