2006 E350 squeaking noise when starting climate control
I would not waste my time trying to lube it. Too much work and it will only fail soon after. Buy a new one. Right same crappy design as others, probably generic supplier.
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Correct. The fan is under the glove box. To access it, just need to remove the bottom panel under the glove box. The motor blower resistor, which often goes bad after ~100k mi, is also right next to the fan. When my car had 50k mi, this whispling noise only happened a few times a day, now at 66k mi, this noise comes & goes every minute. It's getting annoying. I'll probably replace the fan during the Christmas break; should be an easy DIY.
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So you guys are definitely not alone. Its good to know which general direction I can point my trusted SA's attention to - saves time. A big thanks to all who shared.
So you guys are definitely not alone. Its good to know which general direction I can point my trusted SA's attention to - saves time. A big thanks to all who shared.
This was documented on our 2003 E 320 with ANALOG controls
First, remove the front passenger floor mat and get something to cushion your knees. If over 40, go ahead and take some Aleve.
You will need a few tools (image 055)
I used a #25 torx bit to remove the panel (image 54) that is held by two machine screws. It is accessible directly beneath the glove box. There is a built in duct that directs air to your feet, care in removing it by flexing it slightly . It was somewhat difficult to re- install. Note that the cover square duct goes OVER (outside) of the dampered portion of the heater duct. There is one friction plug as well as the two screws. There is a plug that powers the lamp, pinch and tug gently to disconnect.
Now we have exposed the bottom of the fan compartment (image 053)
There are 4 torx screws that need a #20 bit. Three are deep in plastic wells and are not visible. You must feel for the bit to engage and turn them cw.
The one in the rear that is surface visible required a short shank #20 torx bit and a 1/4 in drive because of clearance to the floorboard. These are a ***** to put back. You need either a magnetic tip or a telescoping sleeve used with battery drills to support the screw while you bullseye it blindly in the recessed hole. Scotch tape did not work for me.
You should be able to "crack" the bottom cover Slide it carefully along the wire and expose the plug on the bottom of the speed controller. Pinch it hard and gently tug. The fan is now free of encumberances save the 4 screws.
There are 4 each #20 torx screws that hold the fan inside of the scroll cage.
Support the fan with your hand or a short stick and remove all four screws.
Your fan should look like image 046.
Image 038 shows empty scroll cage after fan is removed.
Remove the fan speed controller (two #20 torx) and fan power plug (same drill, pinch and tug gently)
Your old fan should now look like image 043.
Now reattch the controller to the new unit. Should look like image 046 again.
Insert the fan/ controller back into the void scroll cage.
You must hold the fan with one hand and insert at least two screws hand tight before allowing it to hang. Install the two remaining screws and tighten all. Attch plug back into controller
Reinstall the fan compartment cover with the three deep well screws and one surface mount- image 053. Reinstall wire in two plastic looms
Reinstall large knee cover with two machine screws #25 torx and make sure the duct is engaged. Screws won't align unless it is correct.
Test motor. Annoying squeak is gone for a few more years.
It was 124.95 and the complete unit with the controller was about $212???
They have an old part number and MB has a new number. I wish I thought there was an improvement but I don't. Maybe the OEM part is improved
Two interesting facts,
1. The replacement fan had a mark near the BEHR logo that looked like it had been purposefully disfigured. When I pulled the OEM unit imagine my surprise when the three point star occupied that exact position in the mold.
2. There really is no way to service the old one. I tried to salvage the squirrel cage and I could not even get it off the shaft. About a table spoonful of graphite or carbon spilled out onto my kitchen table and the shaft had moved about 1/2 inch in the windings so I am pretty sure that beating on it toasted the brushes / windings/armature. I threw it in the garbage (a rare event with my parts). I still have some worn out stuff for a BMW that is probably in the crusher.
It was a real pain to get into the floorboard and service this thing. Many might consider $100 bucks in labor a deal. Push the passenger seat all the way to the rear and give it your best shot.
I agree that it is a POS. I have replaced one in another vehicle already so it is not just MB. In the 1950's that motor would have had 4 long skinny bolts that held the motor windings / brushes together and Timken or somebody would have sold you a new bearing for $1.00.
Not only is it a hole in your pocket, it is a tremendous waste of resources.
BTW, ALL SCREWS ARE RIGHTY TIGHTY . My previous post contained an error
I am sure that my age is telling on me.
Mine makes the same squeaking sound, but only at low fan speed.
I also have an odd phenomena of the rear vents not blowing very hard. I might even say, no air is coming out of the B-pillar or rear console vents. I should also note that air doesn't really blow hard out of the bottom (footwell) vents either.
And now that it's hovering in the single digits, temp wise, I can fell a cold draft coming around the parking brake area at highway speeds.
Any ideas on these oddities?
**EDIT**
I should also mention that every time I drive the car, at some point in the drive, I hear what sounds like a flap closing. It appears to be coming from behind the passenger's side of the dashboard. There's no pattern of when it happens. Sometimes 5 minutes into my drive, sometimes 1 hour.
However, there is no difference in airflow before or after I hear this flap sound.
Last edited by Benz-O-Rama; Jan 11, 2010 at 10:50 PM.
So you guys are definitely not alone. Its good to know which general direction I can point my trusted SA's attention to - saves time. A big thanks to all who shared.


