And whats even worse is this is the rear wheel ...
Here are some before and after pics of the wheels. This is after 75 miles of hard braking. You can see at first glance it's actually hard to see the difference between the two (vs. the brown color of the OEM pads which really stood out). In the closeup you can see that they are in fact covered in slight dust (I wiped away a small portion) but it's a black dust that matches the wheels. As someone noted this doesn't really solve the problem for silver wheels, but for black wheels I find it's night and day. And the stopping power was very good as with my first test. Wheel Before Wheel After Wheel Closeup
Here are some before and after pics of the wheels. This is after 75 miles of hard braking. You can see at first glance it's actually hard to see the difference between the two (vs. the brown color of the OEM pads which really stood out). In the closeup you can see that they are in fact covered in slight dust (I wiped away a small portion) but it's a black dust that matches the wheels. As someone noted this doesn't really solve the problem for silver wheels, but for black wheels I find it's night and day. And the stopping power was very good as with my first test. Wheel Before Wheel After Wheel Closeup
Here are some before and after pics of the wheels. This is after 75 miles of hard braking. You can see at first glance it's actually hard to see the difference between the two (vs. the brown color of the OEM pads which really stood out). In the closeup you can see that they are in fact covered in slight dust (I wiped away a small portion) but it's a black dust that matches the wheels. As someone noted this doesn't really solve the problem for silver wheels, but for black wheels I find it's night and day. And the stopping power was very good as with my first test. Wheel Before Wheel After Wheel Closeup
thanks very helpful, is the dust in the wheel barrel from these pads as well? If yes, do you know about how many miles made that amount of dust inside the barrel
of the wheel?
thanks very helpful, is the dust in the wheel barrel from these pads as well? If yes, do you know about how many miles made that amount of dust inside the barrel
of the wheel?
No, the dust in the wheel barrels is from the original pads, I haven’t cleaned them in a while. Easily 1,000 miles on the OEM pads since the last clean.
To my eye I don't see enough difference to justify the change. More than likely due to wheels being black. If you were running anything other than black it would be pretty rough
To my eye I don't see enough difference to justify the change. More than likely due to wheels being black. If you were running anything other than black it would be pretty rough
Yes, the forum member mentioned it will look very bad on different colour wheels, the amount of dust might indeed had decreased however, most of them just blend in. Probably still worth it though. Especially if the performance of the brakes is better (perhaps?)
Yes, the forum member mentioned it will look very bad on different colour wheels, the amount of dust might indeed had decreased however, most of them just blend in. Probably still worth it though. Especially if the performance of the brakes is better (perhaps?)
Probably up to each which way to go. Most probably wouldn't want to spend what I did converting to ccb. It was worth it to me to have zero dust. Tried pads first with less than desirable results.
Probably up to each which way to go. Most probably wouldn't want to spend what I did converting to ccb. It was worth it to me to have zero dust. Tried pads first with less than desirable results.
Any updated thoughts on the new pads, performance, dust etc? Thank you for posting the pics, I think having the old dust from the OEM pads covering your wheel barrels is making these new pads look less than desirable. If there’s any chance, would be great to see more fully cleaned shots, then some after shots with some miles on them to so we can all see just how bad the dust really is (or hopefully isn’t). Really hoping these are the answer to save my sanity on this car.
Any updated thoughts on the new pads, performance, dust etc? Thank you for posting the pics, I think having the old dust from the OEM pads covering your wheel barrels is making these new pads look less than desirable. If there’s any chance, would be great to see more fully cleaned shots, then some after shots with some miles on them to so we can all see just how bad the dust really is (or hopefully isn’t). Really hoping these are the answer to save my sanity on this car.
OK - I've been properly shamed into cleaning my wheel wells, I can report they are now sparkling. I'll post a before and after once I get some miles on them with the new pads.
OK - I've been properly shamed into cleaning my wheel wells, I can report they are now sparkling. I'll post a before and after once I get some miles on them with the new pads.
OK - I've been properly shamed into cleaning my wheel wells, I can report they are now sparkling. I'll post a before and after once I get some miles on them with the new pads.
I haven't had much of a chance to drive around but here is the before and after with 89 miles on them. It really is a big difference from the old pads. Freshly washed wheel Wheel after 89 miles
All - an update on the brake pads after having tested them on the track at Monticello. DO NOT install the pads if you are planning to track the car. After about three laps of hard braking (think 130mph down to 30 on the straight) the pads started smoking so much that I was black flagged and had to come into the pits to cool them down. They also completely lost braking power when at peak heat. It compromised my entire track day as I had to manage the brakes the whole day by braking well before the braking zone, coasting, etc. I'll be switching back to the OEM pads before heading out again.
I've also noticed that the brake dust does come back with the new pads, it just takes longer. My updated view is that it reduced brake dust by about 50%, less than I originally thought. So bottom line if you are not tracking the car and want to reduce dust, they are option, but for most people probably not enough of a benefit to justify the cost. And they are downright dangerous on the track.
All - an update on the brake pads after having tested them on the track at Monticello. DO NOT install the pads if you are planning to track the car. After about three laps of hard braking (think 130mph down to 30 on the straight) the pads started smoking so much that I was black flagged and had to come into the pits to cool them down. They also completely lost braking power when at peak heat. It compromised my entire track day as I had to manage the brakes the whole day by braking well before the braking zone, coasting, etc. I'll be switching back to the OEM pads before heading out again.
I've also noticed that the brake dust does come back with the new pads, it just takes longer. My updated view is that it reduced brake dust by about 50%, less than I originally thought. So bottom line if you are not tracking the car and want to reduce dust, they are option, but for most people probably not enough of a benefit to justify the cost. And they are downright dangerous on the track.
It was worth a shot!
Dang, back to the drawing board. I really want to switch out to different pads the OEM dusting is killing me
All - an update on the brake pads after having tested them on the track at Monticello. DO NOT install the pads if you are planning to track the car. After about three laps of hard braking (think 130mph down to 30 on the straight) the pads started smoking so much that I was black flagged and had to come into the pits to cool them down. They also completely lost braking power when at peak heat. It compromised my entire track day as I had to manage the brakes the whole day by braking well before the braking zone, coasting, etc. I'll be switching back to the OEM pads before heading out again.
I've also noticed that the brake dust does come back with the new pads, it just takes longer. My updated view is that it reduced brake dust by about 50%, less than I originally thought. So bottom line if you are not tracking the car and want to reduce dust, they are option, but for most people probably not enough of a benefit to justify the cost. And they are downright dangerous on the track.
It was worth a shot!
Yeah this was my experience that they were good for street use but not track use. I had a fun little off track excursion but glad you didnt do the same
Honestly, I think the "solution" is to option the car with carbon ceramic brakes to begin with (I believe the issue with mine was trying to pair ceramic pads with steel discs). Given I can't go back in time, I bought one of those Rubbit sprayers (Rubbit | Rubbit - Car wash turned easy, fast and accessible) and every week or so I spray down the wheels and wipe them off. Takes me about 5 minutes per wheel max and they stay shiny without needing to do a full wash or get out the hose, etc. But short of simply washing the wheels regularly, I don't think there is a fix.
Honestly, I think the "solution" is to option the car with carbon ceramic brakes to begin with (I believe the issue with mine was trying to pair ceramic pads with steel discs). Given I can't go back in time, I bought one of those Rubbit sprayers (Rubbit | Rubbit - Car wash turned easy, fast and accessible) and every week or so I spray down the wheels and wipe them off. Takes me about 5 minutes per wheel max and they stay shiny without needing to do a full wash or get out the hose, etc. But short of simply washing the wheels regularly, I don't think there is a fix.
I fear you are correct--- I use this now and it works good at like 1 min a wheel if Im not being to particular between the spokes (I only use on wheels):
Honestly, I think the "solution" is to option the car with carbon ceramic brakes to begin with (I believe the issue with mine was trying to pair ceramic pads with steel discs). Given I can't go back in time, I bought one of those Rubbit sprayers (Rubbit | Rubbit - Car wash turned easy, fast and accessible) and every week or so I spray down the wheels and wipe them off. Takes me about 5 minutes per wheel max and they stay shiny without needing to do a full wash or get out the hose, etc. But short of simply washing the wheels regularly, I don't think there is a fix.
Yeah I did carbon ceramics after i drove the car a few months. Definitely better to order them from the get go. Either way they are awesome!
Anyone know anything about EBC redstuff pads? Someone on Reddit talked about those dusting very little
I always hear about this one in different models on the forum, do they make any for this model though? Otherwise, they are very good pads according to forum members here from different models.
Also anyone else have issues finding a good seat adjustment with the sport seats? I always feel a bit cramped and im only 6ft. I swear there's been times when the seat moves much further back than it allows me to most of the time. But 99% of the time I hit a spot where if I recline the seat any further it pushes the base up forward more. How do I get it so I can push past some of these limits?
