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Old May 14, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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...............I hope this not old news. A year ago I started a thread in which I asked for prt numbers for the MB UHI phone kit because my local MB dealer was tired of customer complaints about the V60 phone. The dealer wanted to install the UHi kts even though unlike MHI, UHi kits were not "approved" for USA market. I got less than favorable response mostly because vendors understandably did not want to give up their trade secrets. The project was abandoned because dealer received e-mail from MBUSA which I posted, saying that MB had the solution in the pipeline in the form of the MB puck. The puck that works with V60 is finally here. I got one and was going to post pics, but member at mbnz.org had already done so. The link is below. If you have the v60 phone, you simply by the puck and plug it in where you will ordinarily plug you V60 phone in the cradle and that's it. Works perfectly. I was afraid that like many so called slotions, this one was going to be a complicated. It isn't. Much simpler than Mikbox and orders and orders of magnitude much simpler than installing UHI.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w208...h-adapter.html

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Old May 14, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Congrats on the new phone setup. I just did the BT for the new 2006 and I love it too. I am in the process of setting up the BT phone for my 2002 E55. My car is equipped with the Moto Timeport phone kit. My question is do I need to replace the PSE for the BT adaptor to work? The PSE in the car is Q6820648 which is a Timeport PSE. And if I need to replace the PSE, do you have any idea what the cost is? Thanks.

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Old May 14, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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Congrats on the new phone setup. I just did the BT for the new 2006 and I love it too. I am in the process of setting up the BT phone for my 2002 E55. My car is equipped with the Moto Timeport phone kit. My question is do I need to replace the PSE for the BT adaptor to work? The PSE in the car is Q6820648 which is a Timeport PSE. And if I need to replace the PSE, do you have any idea what the cost is? Thanks.

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...........You do not need to replace your PSE for the puck to work with the V60 phone. What I do not know for certain is if you need to first upgrade to V60 system and then use the puck, or if you can purchase a puck compatible with the timeport system. It appears the former is the case. It is pretty easy to upgrade to the V60 system with components usually available on ebay. If you do this, you need to get the V60 cradle also since the puck plugs in just like a v60 phone.

.............a less expensive alternative in a case like yours is the Argos bluetooth sold by eiskits.com.

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Old May 14, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Thanks for responding Ted. I already got a V60 cradle from Ebay. I am hoping the only thing needs to be replace is the PSE and no other component, if needs to. I guess one way to find out is to buy the BT puck from the dealer and try it. The worst thing that can happen is to update the PSE, assuming other components( antenna, compensator etc) are OK. I would preferred to use the OEM system and not the Argos. plus the Argo is $900 which isn't cheap. A PSE couldn' possibly cost that much.

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Old May 15, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Question Mb Phone Problems Finally Solved

Originally Posted by JohnAMG
Thanks for responding Ted. I already got a V60 cradle from Ebay. I am hoping the only thing needs to be replace is the PSE and no other component, if needs to. I guess one way to find out is to buy the BT puck from the dealer and try it. The worst thing that can happen is to update the PSE, assuming other components( antenna, compensator etc) are OK. I would preferred to use the OEM system and not the Argos. plus the Argo is $900 which isn't cheap. A PSE couldn' possibly cost that much.

John
Hey I have the Nokia 6310i cradle, will this work on this one or I need to upgrade to the V60 cradle.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Well, I installed the V60 cradle and the BT module and it didn't power up. It looks like the dealer(and Ted) was correct and I will need a new PSE to replace the Timeport PSE. The new PSE part number is Q682 0886(blue labelled/BT compatible) and it will cost another $275 at dealer tomorrow.

Now anyone interested in my Mikebox? I bought it last November and it is for Timeport equiped car. Anyone interested please PM me.


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Old May 17, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Cool, I didn't expect to see my post over here! Maybe someone here can help me now with two problems I'm having with my new v60 BT puck.

1. Caller ID - The caller ID does not seem to work. The number of the incoming call is displayed, but it is not matched to the phonebook entry for name display.

2. Mute - the mute button on the COMAND causes the mute icon to be displaed in the upper right corner by the BT connection bars, but the caller can still hear me speaking (a kind of embarrassing event brought this to my attention!)

My PSE is Q6820886 (blue label, v60); the COMAND is a Euro 2.0, and the phone is a Cingular v3 RAZR. Before I call AWS, is there some known cause for these problems? I couldn't find anything in the forums but hopefully someone here knows!
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by splib
Cool, I didn't expect to see my post over here! Maybe someone here can help me now with two problems I'm having with my new v60 BT puck.

1. Caller ID - The caller ID does not seem to work. The number of the incoming call is displayed, but it is not matched to the phonebook entry for name display.

2. Mute - the mute button on the COMAND causes the mute icon to be displaed in the upper right corner by the BT connection bars, but the caller can still hear me speaking (a kind of embarrassing event brought this to my attention!)

My PSE is Q6820886 (blue label, v60); the COMAND is a Euro 2.0, and the phone is a Cingular v3 RAZR. Before I call AWS, is there some known cause for these problems? I couldn't find anything in the forums but hopefully someone here knows!
I read your post in the other forum too. I need to replace my PSE for this BT thing to work. I have a question for you, did you upgrade from Timeport or you already have the V60? Thanks.

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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:35 AM
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My 2000 CLK didn't come with a phone, so I retrofit a v60 phone kit from a 2002.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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My one guess is...

AWS is made to go with US COMAND systems...
mine is flawless...I know the Timeport solution is in the pipeline, but that will not have caller ID since the original PSE did not support, so i did the PSE upgrade off of a supplier i had found a year ago (non-dealer, used parts, but working)...also upgraded the cradle. Bought the Razr V3, both that and my Treo seem to work GREAT!
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Old May 19, 2006 | 12:43 AM
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OK! My Mercedes BT is working in the 2002 E55 I went the dealer and got the right PSE and after I installed it, the phone works right after pairing setup. I have Euro Comand also and caller ID is working so far and the phonebook download without a glitch. I am using Motorola E815 for the BT. This is what I have spent on the BT add-on to my existing Timeport phone,

Mercedes V60 BT module(dealer)---$300
PSE(Q6820886/blue label)----------$257
V60 cradle(Ebay of course)---------$ 75

I love the BT setup and I would recommended to anyone, especially if you already have the phone system installed.

John
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Old May 19, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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Old May 20, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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Very interesting! I've read somewhere that the BT module works with most carriers, so would this mean it would also work with a Canadian carrier?
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Old May 20, 2006 | 01:50 AM
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Very interesting! I've read somewhere that the BT module works with most carriers, so would this mean it would also work with a Canadian carrier?
Since the BT module/puck is made by Motorola, I would savely guess any Motorola BT phones should be compatible. Good luck.

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Old May 20, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by splib
My 2000 CLK didn't come with a phone, so I retrofit a v60 phone kit from a 2002.
Just about any MY 2000 can be retrofitted with a V60 system. There are even official MB work instructions for the 2000 S and CL-Class cars.

Important thing is to use the V60 compatible PSE (also known as auto-sense or blue label PSE). The Timeport PSE will not work. Most basic reason is that the serial data interface on Timeport is RS-232 while the V60i and up phones are based on USB. The Bluetooth Puck emulates a V60 with USB.

If you're scrounging up parts to do the retrofit on a car never equipped with hands-free and only intend to use Bluetooth. You can save some time and money by not bothering with the compensator since it won't be used anyway.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnAMG
OK! My Mercedes BT is working in the 2002 E55 I went the dealer and got the right PSE and after I installed it, the phone works right after pairing setup.

PSE(Q6820886/blue label)----------$257
John, what is the PSE. The caller ID and voice command does not work since the command say no names stored with bluetooth? Would the caller ID work with this PSE your talking about or how do you download the phone book to the car?
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Old May 20, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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John, what is the PSE. The caller ID and voice command does not work since the command say no names stored with bluetooth? Would the caller ID work with this PSE your talking about or how do you download the phone book to the car?
PSE is required for the Mercedes phone system to work. I don't know what the appreviation "PSE" stand for, but you will need to get the newer one with the blue label on it. I am using a Motorola E815 with the BT setup and downloading the phonebook into the comand/dash display is not an issue. I believed most of the Motorola phones will download phonebook. However the phonebook isn't permanentyly stored in the comand; every time you connect with the BT, then the phonebook will download in a few seconds. I would recommend the VCM to go with the BT setup because it will enhance the function of the Mercedes system.

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Old May 20, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnAMG
PSE is required for the Mercedes phone system to work. I don't know what the appreviation "PSE" stand for, but you will need to get the newer one with the blue label on it.
So both of your cars download the phonebook from your phone. Your 06 with puck and 02 with cradle adapter? What year is the newer one?

I had a V710 and insurance gave me a new LG VX8100(sucks) instead of the E815 since they told me they are discontinued it.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gixxer
So both of your cars download the phonebook from your phone. Your 06 with puck and 02 with cradle adapter? What year is the newer one?

I had a V710 and insurance gave me a new LG VX8100(sucks) instead of the E815 since they told me they are discontinued it.
Both the 06(MHI BT module) and 02(V60 BT puck) can download phonebook with the Moto E815 without problem, and I believed the V710 can download the phonebook also. Teh LG phone maybe questionable. My advise is try to use the Motorola phone with the Mercedes BT and you will have a better success. For the V60 puck you will definitely need to upgrade the PSE. I tried the Timeport PSE and it didn't work. The updated PSE part number is #6820886 and it should have a blue label on it.

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Old May 20, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnAMG
Both the 06(MHI BT module) and 02(V60 BT puck) can download phonebook with the Moto E815 without problem, and I believed the V710 can download the phonebook also. Teh LG phone maybe questionable. My advise is try to use the Motorola phone with the Mercedes BT and you will have a better success. For the V60 puck you will definitely need to upgrade the PSE. I tried the Timeport PSE and it didn't work. The updated PSE part number is #6820886 and it should have a blue label on it.

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What does the upgrade do? I believe everything works except downloading the phone book.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gixxer
What does the upgrade do? I believe everything works except downloading the phone book.
What upgrade are you speaking of? If you are speaking of PSE, it is a necessary upgrade from the old PSE to the newest one in order for the BT to work.

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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnAMG
What upgrade are you speaking of? If you are speaking of PSE, it is a necessary upgrade from the old PSE to the newest one in order for the BT to work.

John
Sorry, I was just confused. My BT works fine. Perhaps I need to get a motorola phone to sync with the car.

Thank for your help.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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John, congrats on your install. It sounds like we both have the same PSE, puck, and COMAND, but your call ID works and mine doesn't. I think this narrows it to the cradle or the phone. Before I write it off as being the phone, do you happen to have the part number of your cradle?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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Getting ready to get a v60 puck. I have a v60 PSE, v60 cradle, and VR and so I thought my BT upgrade should be plug-n-play w/ my Cingular V551........until I called AWS. They tell me my phone s/w version is not compatible and they "recommended" their $340 v557 !!
Can someone tell me if software version of my phone would make or break my BT upgrade ?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by splib
John, congrats on your install. It sounds like we both have the same PSE, puck, and COMAND, but your call ID works and mine doesn't. I think this narrows it to the cradle or the phone. Before I write it off as being the phone, do you happen to have the part number of your cradle?
My V60 cradle part number is #Q-6-82-0724. This is the short coil cradle kit I got off Ebay. I hope this help.

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