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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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Will the AWS RAZR Bluetooth cradle pair with a non-RAZR phone? AWS website and instructions seems to suggest that only RAZRs will pair, but that does not sound logical to me. My wife has a RAZR but I have a KRZR. The KRZR pairs perfectly with the v60 bluetooth puck in one car and I want to be able to pair it to another car in which I'd install the RAZR bluetooth cradle. Thanks.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by weinschela
Will the AWS RAZR Bluetooth cradle pair with a non-RAZR phone? AWS website and instructions seems to suggest that only RAZRs will pair, but that does not sound logical to me. My wife has a RAZR but I have a KRZR. The KRZR pairs perfectly with the v60 bluetooth puck in one car and I want to be able to pair it to another car in which I'd install the RAZR bluetooth cradle. Thanks.
I agree that it does not seem logical - but indeed the instructions that come with the cradle state that "up to four RAZRs may be paired" - not "up to four phones" - and some contributors have reported that they could only pair RAZRs despite trying other phones.

If you have success with your KRZR, we'd like to hear about it.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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I would love to report on the KRZR but I'm not buying the RAZR cradle if it will pair only with RAZRs. Hopefully someone can report on this at some point. I'd be happy to try my KRZR with the RAZR cradle if anyone in the Long Island area has a RAZR cradle. Then we can report definitively.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by weinschela
I would love to report on the KRZR but I'm not buying the RAZR cradle if it will pair only with RAZRs. Hopefully someone can report on this at some point. I'd be happy to try my KRZR with the RAZR cradle if anyone in the Long Island area has a RAZR cradle. Then we can report definitively.
I have my car in the city daily if you happen to be around or plan on being in the city PM me and we can set something up.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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I have my car in the city daily if you happen to be around or plan on being in the city PM me and we can set something up.
How about a better solution. Parrot BT, with a new piece coming out. Integrates direct with your factory stereo, plug and play. Uploads FULL phonebooks from ALL phones, including the POS Palm.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 04:12 AM
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How about a better solution. Parrot BT, with a new piece coming out. Integrates direct with your factory stereo, plug and play. Uploads FULL phonebooks from ALL phones, including the POS Palm.
I assume it "steals" the audio lines from the DIN connector behind the radio? This connector does not exist on all MB head units. Secondly, you would lose the simultaneous audio option like navi announcements during a phone call, wouldn't you?
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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I assume it "steals" the audio lines from the DIN connector behind the radio? This connector does not exist on all MB head units. Secondly, you would lose the simultaneous audio option like navi announcements during a phone call, wouldn't you?
The DIN connector? You mean the wiring harness? "Steals" the audio lines, no it "Mutes" the radio and yes the NAVI. Um, but it costs half of the puc which we remove on a daily basis from unsatisfied customers.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ldangeli
The DIN connector? You mean the wiring harness? "Steals" the audio lines, no it "Mutes" the radio and yes the NAVI. Um, but it costs half of the puc which we remove on a daily basis from unsatisfied customers.
I sell Volvos and they are half the price of an MB, I expect all forum members to change from MB to Volvo.

Yes the Parrot has advantages but I was just trying to state that the installation isn't equally easy on all MB models and if I want to have certain functionality the MB option provides, then Parrot is no good for me. It may well be perfect for someone else. Please just let us know what it is and each person may decide on his/her personal preference accordingly.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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I have the v60 puck in one car (04 E320 wagon) and it works perfectly. I had a Parrot standalone a couple of years ago and thought the sound quality was totally unacceptable. That's why I am investigating the OEM solutions. I don't appreciate the inference that I am an idiot for doing so.
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I have the v60 puck in one car (04 E320 wagon) and it works perfectly. I had a Parrot standalone a couple of years ago and thought the sound quality was totally unacceptable. That's why I am investigating the OEM solutions. I don't appreciate the inference that I am an idiot for doing so.
The units from years prior are completely different the the units from today. Technology and software wise. I don't think anyone called you an idiot, did they?
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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I have the razr cradle, but i have not tried pairing it to a non razr phone. I will try and find someone to try another phone. One puzzling thing- The cradle supposedly increases reception, but it does not have a seperate jack for the antenna. I also noticed that it never seems to improve reception, in fact I think my reception bars fall sometimes...
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 01:42 AM
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The antenna connection is made through the connection in the lower left hand corner of the cradle / phone. Same as the port where you would connect the charger.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 07:21 AM
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I have noticed an increase in the # of signal strangth bars with the phone in the cradle as compared to with it out. In my garage in the cradle I have 1 bar when I take the phone out it drops to 0.
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Originally Posted by kjb55
The antenna connection is made through the connection in the lower left hand corner of the cradle / phone. Same as the port where you would connect the charger.
Not too sure about that - it may use an RF coupler device, similar in principle to those used to transmit the signals through glass to some vehicle window mounted antennas.

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One puzzling thing I also noticed that it never seems to improve reception, in fact I think my reception bars fall sometimes...
Your experience is very different from mine, then. See http://www.benzworld.org/forums/show...26#post2222126, starting about halfway through the first post in the string.
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I find for best signal strength I leave my phone in the sliding compartment on my e550's dashboard. I sat in my car yesterday and took it from there to my cradle 5-6 times and each time the signal dropped one bar. This is frustrating since on Long Islands north shore there are quite a few poor reception areas. I have the regular bluetooth puck and I purposely spent the extra $ to get the cradle to fix the reception problems.

I read your post and it was very imformative, but it seems my experience is different. I don't know if it is the cradle or the phone. That is why I was questioning the antenna connection since the razr has an antenna port on the back of the phone.
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To me it would sound like something wrong with the antenna system in the car if the cradle is no better than the phone alone. Like the antenna compensator not working or RF connector problems, perhaps the antenna, I guess you cannot have a single band antenna on this new cars. Actually I've heard water leaks being a problem with some antenna types, don't remember which car model would be affected.

The coupler should be most common for new phones, the physical antenna connector is rare on modern multiband phones. The coupler might not work well with certain phone models.

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