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Old 11-19-2004, 12:51 PM
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Help connecting Pioneer AVIC-N1 DVD navigation receiver to '98 C280 with Bose system

I have a '98 C280 with Bose system I want to swap out the headunit with the Pioneer AVIC-N1 DVD navigation receiver.

Does the original MB headunit output line or speaker-level signal to the Bose amp in the trunk?

The Pioneer receiver has both speaker and line-level outputs. Which one should I use to connect to the wireless harness that goes to the Bose amp?

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The system in your car uses "pseudo line level". It is a high-level line output. If your head unit can output at least 2-3V as line level, then I would feed that to the Bose amp instead of the speaker level.

Search here in the forums, there's a lot of information on doing this.

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Originally Posted by scorchie
The system in your car uses "pseudo line level". It is a high-level line output. If your head unit can output at least 2-3V as line level, then I would feed that to the Bose amp instead of the speaker level.

Search here in the forums, there's a lot of information on doing this.

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Thanks for replying so quickly!

I did search this and a few other MB forums. There's a lot
of info. But you nailed my question down to just one point:

The Pioneer DVD/NAV receiver's brochure says it's got 4V line-level outputs. Is this too much for the '98 C280's Bose amp to handle?

Your assistance is greatly appreciated!


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a related question..... do W202s without Bose system have no amplifiers in the trunk? If so, I assume original MB OEM headunit(Alpine or Becker-made) have built-in amps? Or more precisely, are all the MB headunits the same, Bose or non-Bose? Thanks!

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Originally Posted by creamypanda
Thanks for replying so quickly!

I did search this and a few other MB forums. There's a lot
of info. But you nailed my question down to just one point:

The Pioneer DVD/NAV receiver's brochure says it's got 4V line-level outputs. Is this too much for the '98 C280's Bose amp to handle?

Your assistance is great appreciated!


P.S.
a related question..... do W202s without Bose system have no amplifiers in the trunk? If so, I assume original MB OEM headunit(Alpine or Becker-made) have built-in amps? Or more precisely, are all the MB headunits the same, Bose or non-Bose? Thanks!
4V is fine, you just need to turn the volume down.

Original head units designed to be used with Bose usually can be used without Bose. They all have "amps" so to speak in them, but I think what you're asking is if the amps can drive speakers. Yes, they can. I believe most 1998 and later head units are capable of switching their output based on the impedence of the load.

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Originally Posted by scorchie
4V is fine, you just need to turn the volume down.


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here's the line-level output diagram from the unit.

I have the VW/Audi-type connector that goes into the
MB factory radio harness. Each channel has a + and a -
wire. Are there connectors for connecting RCA plugs
to these bare wires?

Does the Bose amp need to be connected to the blue/white
amp turn-on wire from the Pioneer? I looked at a MB radio
pin-out diagram. There doesn't seem to be a wire for this
purpose coming out of the factory radio.

thanks again!


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