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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 08:34 AM
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New coupe, some observations

Coming from 325 (E46), Z4 (E85), but still have the ATS.

First off, the car is just what I wanted (luxury and reasonable performance - peppy and holds the road fairly well) and I am very, very happy with it.

Can't say enough about how attractive this car is, inside and out. Got vinyl seats (didn't want to be paying $1500 extra on the lease) and glad I did. They are very comfortable, will not stain (need a lot of sun block in SoFL) - easy to clean - no worries, haven't caused any extra sweating.

Haven't found the Eco drive too annoying and can get used to it...especially as the car can get great mileage in local urban driving. When using Eco, I've been getting around 25+ mpg.

Compared to my 2013 ATS Lux 2.0T which I consider to be my better BMW clone as it does handle better than the 328, the C300 doesn't corner as well. On cornering, the ATS is absolutely flat with no roll, the C300 does take curves nicely, but with a slight roll...certainly not as flat as the ATS.

Putting the C300 into Sport mode was a very pleasant and uplifting surprise. The car just felt tighter and I really felt the gears pull with nicely increasing acceleration. Although the ATS and C300 are rated the same HP, by-the-seat-of-my-pants, I definitely found the C300 to be more exhilarating.
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 11:14 AM
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I haven't driven the ATS so I can't compare there, but I think the C300 takes corners really good! I've been playing around with it (of course), and started to wonder how hard I can whip it before it starts to lose traction...

Compared to the 4 series I enjoy the MB Coupé much more, the 4 series M-Sport finds a lot of traction, but rolls like a bathtub in corners.

Oh, and that sportexhaust...it's just a 4 cylinder, but it's addictive!

I just gotta wear out those runflats and get some real tyres on,another incentive to drive "dynamically".
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 11:26 AM
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I haven't driven the ATS so I can't compare there, but I think the C300 takes corners really good! I've been playing around with it (of course), and started to wonder how hard I can whip it before it starts to lose traction...

Compared to the 4 series I enjoy the MB Coupé much more, the 4 series M-Sport finds a lot of traction, but rolls like a bathtub in corners.

Oh, and that sportexhaust...it's just a 4 cylinder, but it's addictive!

I just gotta wear out those runflats and get some real tyres on,another incentive to drive "dynamically".
The ATS was spec'd out to be a clone of the E46. Cadillac was very successful here. The E46 was the last of the the 3-series cars that really handled well. After 2006, BMW softened things up a lot in order to increase market share at the expense of producing a car with superior road handling characteristics. The ATS has better captured those characteristics.

In my post I forgot to mention that compared to the ATS, the C300 coupe has captured a reasonable exhaust sound...for a turbo.

As for the tires. Yeah, you are right about getting non-RFT. However, may I suggest a reduction in tire pressure to 36psi all around. Car still drives well and is less jittery.
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by flycaster
The ATS was spec'd out to be a clone of the E46. Cadillac was very successful here. The E46 was the last of the the 3-series cars that really handled well. After 2006, BMW softened things up a lot in order to increase market share at the expense of producing a car with superior road handling characteristics. The ATS has better captured those characteristics.

In my post I forgot to mention that compared to the ATS, the C300 coupe has captured a reasonable exhaust sound...for a turbo.

As for the tires. Yeah, you are right about getting non-RFT. However, may I suggest a reduction in tire pressure to 36psi all around. Car still drives well and is less jittery.
I understand there are two tire measurement stickers on the cars: driver door and fuel door. The fuel door is max load and driver door is normal driving. Ii would not vary from the door measure unless it's the 36psi number. A decrease will cause a substantial increase in heat while driving, which could result in premature failure, uneven wear or catastrophic failure. Just my .02c.

Run flats are a giant PITA and I would sooner switch them out than dramatically shift the pressures around. I know they are supposed to behave a certain way in the event of a flat, but that doesn't mean they'll behave that way after extended, repeated high heat cycles..... I hate those damn things.

The better solution is the tire inside a tire....
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 12:59 PM
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I understand there are two tire measurement stickers on the cars: driver door and fuel door. The fuel door is max load and driver door is normal driving. Ii would not vary from the door measure unless it's the 36psi number. A decrease will cause a substantial increase in heat while driving, which could result in premature failure, uneven wear or catastrophic failure. Just my .02c.
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I think you may have gotten the numbers reversed. In my new coupe, the normal load psi (36/36) is placed on the inside of the gas lid; whereas, the door jam's recommendations (39/45) are for max load. As I won't be doing 100 mph too often and I won't be carrying any heavy loads, I'm thinking that 36/36 will be just fine. Here in hot SoFL, I just did 40 miles of urban/city driving (25-60 mph) and the monitored tire pressure was 38/38...which seems just about right to me.
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I won't alter mines in any way, I can still enjoy the car with them on, so it's ok.
I will however be quite aggressive on them...
Love taking the car out on summerevenings atm, the car begs to be driven... :-)
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by flycaster
I think you may have gotten the numbers reversed. In my new coupe, the normal load psi (36/36) is placed on the inside of the gas lid; whereas, the door jam's recommendations (39/45) are for max load. As I won't be doing 100 mph too often and I won't be carrying any heavy loads, I'm thinking that 36/36 will be just fine. Here in hot SoFL, I just did 40 miles of urban/city driving (25-60 mph) and the monitored tire pressure was 38/38...which seems just about right to me.
Quite right.
Don't have the car yet....
Apologies!
I plan to run the fuel door pressure in the C63 coupe, as well.
I'm hoping no run flats....
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 01:34 PM
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One thing about those runflats is good though, they look damn sexy on the car!
I love how they envelops the rims and protect them.
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How about a CTS Comparison as well >

Older Thread, Sorry, But starting from the bottom up to gain insights in my " New to Me " 2017 C300 Coupe ( Pictured Below the Previous CTS Coupe ) I'd thought throw in my initial thoughts here in this aged thread



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