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Old May 26, 2026 | 09:06 PM
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I use a great, non-Mercedes mechanic for most service on my s-class (my 7th) and my wife’s e-class. Once in a while I’ll use the closest, quicky oil change place just for an oil change.

Is there anything I should be concerned about when the quick guys do the work? I only use them for oil changes between the big services.
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Old May 26, 2026 | 10:02 PM
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Just be sure they are using the right oil. You may need to bring it to them .

Full Synthetic 5W-40 or 0W-40 motor oil that meets Mercedes-Benz specification MB 229.5.

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Old May 26, 2026 | 11:28 PM
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Main concerns would be them neanderthalling the drain plug, filter housing, not fitting the gasket properly, over/under filling w/ oil, incorrect viscosity.

Secondary, not as concerning, concerns: Oil approval not being MB229**, a change here and there with it wouldn't be a problem.

If you are changing your oil every 5,000 miles, I would recommend sticking with a trusted shop. There's enough time/mileage w/ the oil that you don't need to rush in to a quick lube. Once you are nearing 5k, just keep it in mind that you should get it done within the next 1k miles.

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Old May 27, 2026 | 07:24 AM
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Labor turnover at these drive-thru oil change franchises is high. Your car might be the third oil change the monkey has ever done.
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Old May 27, 2026 | 08:20 AM
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You have the money for an S class but not the money to take it somewhere decent for an oil change?

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Old May 27, 2026 | 11:55 AM
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Sometimes time is more valuable than anything else, so a qucik in-and-out at one of these places has some appeal. There's a "Valvoline Instant Oil Change" place near my house that literally always has a line of cars. You couldn't pay me enough money to take my car there, but there's obviously people who value something different. Time really is the one thing that has more value than money. For me it's more convenient to order oil from FCP euro and perform an oil change myself than it is to make an appointment at the dealer or an independent shop.
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Old May 27, 2026 | 12:54 PM
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Isn't there an old saying that goes something like "you can do something well, you can do something cheaply and you can do something quickly, but you only get to pick two of the three choices" ?

The only way I would ever consider a quickie oil change place would be if I brought my own oil, and I stood there and watched the tech. Otherwise I cannot see risking what is a $50k motor in a > $100k car to save time, money or both.

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Old May 27, 2026 | 01:52 PM
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I would not take my S Class to a quick lube place. I use one for the Pacifica all the time but not the S Class. My dealer has a quick walk in service, it takes an hour and I bum around the showroom, and its done right for only a little more than the quick lube place.
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I would not take my S Class to a quick lube place. I use one for the Pacifica all the time but not the S Class. My dealer has a quick walk in service, it takes an hour and I bum around the showroom, and its done right for only a little more than the quick lube place.
If my dealer, or a quality indy shope closeby, had a quick service available I'd do it. But no way I'd take my car to a quick service place.
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My indy shop will do it quick too, but theres nothing to do there and he's only $20 cheaper than the dealer. The showroom keeps me entertained. I get just the oil change at the 5k intervals and the full A/B service on the normal schedule, for those I get a loaner.

Quick lube place isn't going to use the MB Spec oil, they're not going to replace the drain plug like they're supposed to, etc. Dealer or Indy will. Quick lube place is $170, dealer is $200. No brainer. Quick lube place is $110 for the Pacifica but you have to add 4 quarts of oil for the Mercedes.

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Old May 27, 2026 | 05:01 PM
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Those places are why you see people driving around dragging their engine paneling on the ground. I have seen some cut/bend the panels so they don't have to remove a few screws.
Do you really want a random person (maybe the new teenager) with zero interest in doing the job right to put their hands on your car?
Also they are not going to use the right oil.
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Old May 27, 2026 | 05:27 PM
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Those places are why you see people driving around dragging their engine paneling on the ground. I have seen some cut/bend the panels so they don't have to remove a few screws.
Do you really want a random person (maybe the new teenager) with zero interest in doing the job right to put their hands on your car?
Also they are not going to use the right oil.
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While I generally agree, the quick lube place I use is actually very good. Its clean, there are cameras in the pit on a live feed so you can watch them do the job, people are friendly and professional...still wouldn't take the S Class there. Its a local not a national chain. When they rotate tires they torque them with a torque wrench, they do the same for drain plugs and the oil filter housing. Bet most dealers don't bother.

Also, dealer techs don't change oil either. They employ lube techs that aren't much more trained than the ones at a quick lube place. Oil changes aren't rocket science, 1 hour of training and someone is qualified to change oil. If you want a real tech changing your oil you should go to an independent mechanic.
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Old May 27, 2026 | 05:50 PM
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With the dealer we have the illusion of special treatment for a special price. With Jiffy Lube no such illusion, but you can watch what they are doing. There have been numerous successful civil suits for damages against jiffy lube. I have a local service station that is well regarded and I sometimes take my wife's 2018 glc to them for an oil change. I supply the materials.
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Old May 27, 2026 | 06:39 PM
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My Dad had a friend years ago who had the oil changed in his new then 98 GS400 and they didn't fill the oil back up, or didn't tighten the drain plug or something and the engine seized, JL had to buy them a new engine.
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Old May 27, 2026 | 08:00 PM
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I would never take any of my rides to those type of outfits -- not even my 1999 Chev Suburban.
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Old May 28, 2026 | 05:46 AM
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From another thread, forgot where but depending on the MB dealership instead of mentioning service A or B you can just say oil change I think the forum member was only charged 150 or something for the job instead of couple hundreds to a thousand for Service A or B again pricing varies by dealership and yes it was also a W222.
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Old May 28, 2026 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
From another thread, forgot where but depending on the MB dealership instead of mentioning service A or B you can just say oil change I think the forum member was only charged 150 or something for the job instead of couple hundreds to a thousand for Service A or B again pricing varies by dealership and yes it was also a W222.
Thats true, but you aren't getting an A or B service then. Its more than just an oil change mostly the B Service, includes tire rotation and air filters etc. Oil change at my MB dealer as of last week when I had it done was $210 out the door. A service would add tire rotation, key battery and mrake inspections etc
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While an oil/filter change is standard for A and B services, and a brake fluid exchange is standard for B service, everything else seems to vary by dealer and customer as to what's included and what's an up-charge. I recall one forum member reporting that a dealer refused to reset his oil service interval annunciator because that was included only with the full A service, and not with the lesser cost oil/filter change. Attitudes like that is why I DIY.
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Originally Posted by streborx
While an oil/filter change is standard for A and B services, and a brake fluid exchange is standard for B service, everything else seems to vary by dealer and customer as to what's included and what's an up-charge. I recall one forum member reporting that a dealer refused to reset his oil service interval annunciator because that was included only with the full A service, and not with the lesser cost oil/filter change. Attitudes like that is why I DIY.
Well, to be fair the service minder specifies its an A Service or B service that its time for, just an oil change isn't those things...so I can see why they wouldn't report to the car that service has been done. My dealer won't clear the message with just an oil change either.

Mercedes has a clear description of an A and B service, dealers add stuff on to that but an A Service is an oil change, tire rotation if possibke, key battery, and checks and inspections. B Service adds cabin air filter, brake fluid exchange. Then you have larger intervals such as 50k with engine air filter and spark plugs.
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Old May 28, 2026 | 10:25 AM
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Those cost of those "inspections" are complete BS and a huge money maker for the dealer. OF COURSE my indy does those same inspections during every oil change, and only takes a few minutes.
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Those cost of those "inspections" are complete BS and a huge money maker for the dealer. OF COURSE my indy does those same inspections during every oil change, and only takes a few minutes.
Thats a valid argument, but just an oil change is still not an A service. Dealer/mechanic deserves to be paid for anything that takes even a few minutes, an oil change is not an inspection, I have no issue with them charging more to do an inspection but ther question is...how much more?

Delta for the O/C A Service for me is ~ $400...so tire rotation, $100 for that at the dealer is fair IMO. So delta is now $300...inspection...$50 IMO is fair. so now we're at $250...key battery? $50? $200....I think the A Service cost is still unjustifiable mathematically but it is what it is.

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The description of A and B services, such as that at https://www.mercedesbenzofdenver.com...b-service-.htm is typical of what most dealers provide as a baseline. As I said, some dealers might provide more to favored customers, or simply set their service fees high and include things like tire rotation. One thing you can be sure of -- nothing is for free. (There was a recent forum post referencing a CA MB dealer that was running a special on A and B services, both which were priced more than $1,000.) Associated with the A and B service indicator are cryptic service codes that define additional services that are required at higher mileage intervals, such as gearbox fluid exchanges and spark plugs. Many owners are clueless until they pull into the service bay for their usual oil change only to discover that the A service at 50K miles is going to cost them several thousand $$. That's why pre-paid maintenance is a scam -- it gets you in the door for the oil change, but you don't get out the door without paying much more.
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Prepaid maintenance includes A and B services, you shouldn't be paying anything additionally at the dealer. If you're going to use the dealer, prepaid maintenance actually will save you some money. Of course the prepaid maintenance is over by 50k miles which is when real maintenance happens...plugs etc.

I use the dealer for the small services because its easy, I could save a couple hundred dollars taking it to my independent but I get the loaner etc at Mercedes. Big stuff, brakes, spark plugs etc I take to the independent.
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Originally Posted by SW20S
Thats true, but you aren't getting an A or B service then. Its more than just an oil change mostly the B Service, includes tire rotation and air filters etc. Oil change at my MB dealer as of last week when I had it done was $210 out the door. A service would add tire rotation, key battery and mrake inspections etc
My thinking was if they do it at JiffyLube it won't be the complete A or B service anyways I guess.
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Originally Posted by SW20S
Prepaid maintenance includes A and B services, you shouldn't be paying anything additionally at the dealer. If you're going to use the dealer, prepaid maintenance actually will save you some money. Of course the prepaid maintenance is over by 50k miles which is when real maintenance happens...plugs etc.

I use the dealer for the small services because its easy, I could save a couple hundred dollars taking it to my independent but I get the loaner etc at Mercedes. Big stuff, brakes, spark plugs etc I take to the independent.
Got to be careful with some sketchy dealerships not including brake fluid in the ppm. I seen those reported on the forums over the years.
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