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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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My 2000 C280, purchased used, has an odometer issue: some of the lines that make up each digit don't light. So a 7 might actually be a 0 or9, and a 0 might be an 8 (follow?) The broker I bought it from said that MB's and BMW's are notorious for this, but I don't see any posts about it. Car only has 60K on it, any ideas?
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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i see that all the time on cars that are rolled back on the odometer. if the digits go blank or one of the last digist illuminates dark red the odometer has been tampered with. PM me and i will let you know more-but i haven't heard of this as being chronic
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by brett
i see that all the time on cars that are rolled back on the odometer. if the digits go blank or one of the last digist illuminates dark red the odometer has been tampered with. PM me and i will let you know more-but i haven't heard of this as being chronic
i totally 100% agree...someone f-ed with the odometer.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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Re: odometer readout

Originally posted by eddieo45
My 2000 C280, purchased used, has an odometer issue: some of the lines that make up each digit don't light. So a 7 might actually be a 0 or9, and a 0 might be an 8 (follow?) The broker I bought it from said that MB's and BMW's are notorious for this, but I don't see any posts about it. Car only has 60K on it, any ideas?
On the BMW Forums, there is a common complaint of the pixels going out in the instrument cluster out of Warranty, especially the E39 (5 series). BMW is replacing them on a case by case basis, with the customer ususlly paying one hour of labor to the dealer. Some say it is a DYS job, with instrustions posted for how to. No one though has commeneted on the odometer not working as you describe, and I doubt that the cluster would be a DYS job if the odometer was included in the repair. Sounds like you are having smoke blown up your a** by your dealer/broker.

Did you do a CarFax check of your vehicle to see if it was Salvaged or registered with higher milage previously? If not, you should do it now, ASAP!

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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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thanks sph, nothing bad on the carfax report, though I did find out it was a repo, not a returned 3 year lease as I had assumed. Imagine paying 3 years of payments on a brand new Benz and letting it get repo-ed?
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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You can't roll back the odometer on a digital dash.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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You can't roll back the odometer on a digital dash.
I'm sure you can hook up a computer and fiddle with it to change it somehow...as it's the same when you replace the cluster, the dealer just hooks up a computer to the cluster pin's in the back of it and changes the readout.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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NO, the dealer does not hook up hook up a computer to the pins.
Need to get you stuff straight.
The dealer hooks up what we call a SDS machine.
From there I can go into the old cluster and download the information for thecluster int he SDS machine.(the information that is download has to do with setting and thing that pertain to the cluster, no the miles.)
When I order a cluster for your car, it is sent to me with the miles already uploaded into it. On newer cluster I can only raise the miles, not lower them.

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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by redcoupe
NO, the dealer does not hook up hook up a computer to the pins.
Need to get you stuff straight.
The dealer hooks up what we call a SDS machine.
From there I can go into the old cluster and download the information for thecluster int he SDS machine.(the information that is download has to do with setting and thing that pertain to the cluster, no the miles.)
When I order a cluster for your car, it is sent to me with the miles already uploaded into it. On newer cluster I can only raise the miles, not lower them.

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Whoa....calm down there. I only relayed what I was told.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by redcoupe
NO, the dealer does not hook up hook up a computer to the pins.
Need to get you stuff straight.
The dealer hooks up what we call a SDS machine.
From there I can go into the old cluster and download the information for thecluster int he SDS machine.(the information that is download has to do with setting and thing that pertain to the cluster, no the miles.)
When I order a cluster for your car, it is sent to me with the miles already uploaded into it. On newer cluster I can only raise the miles, not lower them.

Brian(MB TECH)
Whoa....calm down there. I only relayed what I was told.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by redcoupe
NO, the dealer does not hook up hook up a computer to the pins.
Need to get you stuff straight.
The dealer hooks up what we call a SDS machine.
From there I can go into the old cluster and download the information for thecluster int he SDS machine.(the information that is download has to do with setting and thing that pertain to the cluster, no the miles.)
When I order a cluster for your car, it is sent to me with the miles already uploaded into it. On newer cluster I can only raise the miles, not lower them.

Brian(MB TECH)
Whoa....calm down there. I only relayed what I was told.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by redcoupe
NO, the dealer does not hook up hook up a computer to the pins.
Need to get you stuff straight.
The dealer hooks up what we call a SDS machine.
From there I can go into the old cluster and download the information for thecluster int he SDS machine.(the information that is download has to do with setting and thing that pertain to the cluster, no the miles.)
When I order a cluster for your car, it is sent to me with the miles already uploaded into it. On newer cluster I can only raise the miles, not lower them.

Brian(MB TECH)
Whoa....calm down there. I only relayed what I was told.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by redcoupe
NO, the dealer does not hook up hook up a computer to the pins.
Need to get you stuff straight.
The dealer hooks up what we call a SDS machine.
From there I can go into the old cluster and download the information for thecluster int he SDS machine.(the information that is download has to do with setting and thing that pertain to the cluster, no the miles.)
When I order a cluster for your car, it is sent to me with the miles already uploaded into it. On newer cluster I can only raise the miles, not lower them.

Brian(MB TECH)
Whoa....calm down there. I only relayed what I was told.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Double post

Its ok I just hate when people are feed the wrong info.

Now you know

Brian
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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sorry for the reposts...server timed out a few times but apparently went thru
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Odometers in Europe

I thought someone a few months ago said MB Dealers (and others) in Europe could "adjust" Odometers with a frequency generator. Am I mistaken about this?
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