'95 c36 or '00 c230
#51
still deciding, lol. probably won't know till I get job, which hopefully will be soon.
Eddio, why don't u go for the C230K at hatch & sons :p I'm sure you can talk them down. Also the dealer, Foreign Motors West has a few C230K's for sale...check them out: www.foreignmotorswest.com
Eddio, why don't u go for the C230K at hatch & sons :p I'm sure you can talk them down. Also the dealer, Foreign Motors West has a few C230K's for sale...check them out: www.foreignmotorswest.com
#53
As someone who works as a marketing analyst for a 3party automotive research company - $19K for the 95 c36 is too much! I know that based on your geo region car costs can fluctuate -- but sorry - $19K for a car that was driven in a 4 season climate w/ 61K miles is just way tooo much!!!!!
$16K ~ 17K is what we call a "true market value" of that vehicle. And this of course assumming that the car is in very good condition.
Basically, if the car is in good cond w/ no warranty - $16K range.
If in good - great cond. w/ warranty - $17k - $17,700 range.
The wholesale value on that vehicle (what the delear paid to buy)
is btw $11.5K - $12.5K. Margins on a used car is much greater than a new car.
I highly recommend that you go to a few websites like:
www.edmunds.com
www.cardirect.com
www.autotrader.com
or even look up what the MB Dealers are selling them for through www.mbusa.com
and take all the print outs and show them to your dealer and say, this is what the mkt value is -- match it!
worse they can say is no and they lose your business. But considering the car is 9 yrs old - i'm sure they will deal to get rid of it!
Just heads up is all.
the c36 is a great car -- hehe...much more fun than the 230
hope u get ur job!
$16K ~ 17K is what we call a "true market value" of that vehicle. And this of course assumming that the car is in very good condition.
Basically, if the car is in good cond w/ no warranty - $16K range.
If in good - great cond. w/ warranty - $17k - $17,700 range.
The wholesale value on that vehicle (what the delear paid to buy)
is btw $11.5K - $12.5K. Margins on a used car is much greater than a new car.
I highly recommend that you go to a few websites like:
www.edmunds.com
www.cardirect.com
www.autotrader.com
or even look up what the MB Dealers are selling them for through www.mbusa.com
and take all the print outs and show them to your dealer and say, this is what the mkt value is -- match it!
worse they can say is no and they lose your business. But considering the car is 9 yrs old - i'm sure they will deal to get rid of it!
Just heads up is all.
the c36 is a great car -- hehe...much more fun than the 230
hope u get ur job!
Last edited by clsc510; 04-22-2004 at 09:00 PM.
#54
I appreciate the information you've provided
I know 19,9 is too much...I was thinking to offer 16 to see what they say.
Would you mind looking up info for the '00 C230K? I believe they are selling for the same price as the '95 C36.
Thanks man, I will see what I can find out on prices tomorrow morning when i bring the S in for a wheel balance.
I know 19,9 is too much...I was thinking to offer 16 to see what they say.
Would you mind looking up info for the '00 C230K? I believe they are selling for the same price as the '95 C36.
Thanks man, I will see what I can find out on prices tomorrow morning when i bring the S in for a wheel balance.
#55
I test-drove that C36 when I was thinking of replacing my E420 for it.
It's a really nice car. Make sure you have them replace the head gasket (if it hasn't been replaced, they will), and have them fix the oil leaks around the engine. *ps.. they will do it*
also the engine sounded a little rough.. maybe just compared to the M119.
The brakes were a little weak too, I thought. However, everything else was amazing. The I6 pulls REALLY hard! The C36 is so much more responsive than the E420... it's only missing that V8 sound
They'll fix those things for you if you buy it, im pretty sure!
c ya around Boston
It's a really nice car. Make sure you have them replace the head gasket (if it hasn't been replaced, they will), and have them fix the oil leaks around the engine. *ps.. they will do it*
also the engine sounded a little rough.. maybe just compared to the M119.
The brakes were a little weak too, I thought. However, everything else was amazing. The I6 pulls REALLY hard! The C36 is so much more responsive than the E420... it's only missing that V8 sound
They'll fix those things for you if you buy it, im pretty sure!
c ya around Boston
#57
Originally posted by ahopeter
all the prices mentioned seem way too high...i sold my heavily modded 97 c36 for 11k... with 93k on it.
all the prices mentioned seem way too high...i sold my heavily modded 97 c36 for 11k... with 93k on it.
THe $16-$17K for the for the 95 C36 is based off of a 60K mile mileage, well equipped and that it is in good - very good condition with the cost of refurbishing the vehicle included. Once a car reaches 90K+ miles, the value will drop immensely. Should your 97 C36 had 60K miles (based on avg of 12k a yr), you car is valued at $16-$17 on a private party sale (assuming it is in excellent condition).
Another thing to keep in mind is that all these prices are "national avg" that the 3rd party auto industry feels is "fairl" to both the selling and purchasing party. They aren't rules to go by - just something to gauge off of.
#58
just got back from them this morning. They just sold the '00 C230K It's being prepped for delivery.
The C36 is listed for $17,900. I may take a test drive next time i'm in, which will be soon. From the looks of it this morning, it is in great condition. They just serviced it, 60k service that is.
Question though, is the AMG lettering seperate letters on the '95's or is it a sticky on type with the AMG all in one strip?
The C36 is listed for $17,900. I may take a test drive next time i'm in, which will be soon. From the looks of it this morning, it is in great condition. They just serviced it, 60k service that is.
Question though, is the AMG lettering seperate letters on the '95's or is it a sticky on type with the AMG all in one strip?
#59
Originally posted by GDawgC220
I appreciate the information you've provided
I know 19,9 is too much...I was thinking to offer 16 to see what they say.
Would you mind looking up info for the '00 C230K? I believe they are selling for the same price as the '95 C36.
Thanks man, I will see what I can find out on prices tomorrow morning when i bring the S in for a wheel balance.
I appreciate the information you've provided
I know 19,9 is too much...I was thinking to offer 16 to see what they say.
Would you mind looking up info for the '00 C230K? I believe they are selling for the same price as the '95 C36.
Thanks man, I will see what I can find out on prices tomorrow morning when i bring the S in for a wheel balance.
However, the wholse sale value (what the dealer pays for can be anywhere from $14.5K at the very low end to $16K for the high end.
Adding starmarked with also hike up the selling price of the car. I highly recommend the starmarked vehicles. The extra grand to 2 grand in price difference for a starmarked makes a huge difference. Considering a MB is not cheap to service.
I've already gotten my money's worth off of the starmarked warranty and i intend on extending after before it expires. YOU ALSO GET LOTTA FREE STUFF AND GREAT DISCOUNTS IF YOU BUY A STARMARKED!
let us know what you decide on!
#60
$17,900 sounds more reasonable than $19,900... but i think you can negotiate down lower ... considering that dealers have a greater margin of return on a used vehicle, they should have more room to budge.
but it looks like you now only of 1 choice....
the AMG!!!!
of course ... you can also not buy....but we won't think about that! hehe
but it looks like you now only of 1 choice....
the AMG!!!!
of course ... you can also not buy....but we won't think about that! hehe
#61
Originally posted by clsc510
The 2000 c230K will all depend on the type of options and the amt of miles the vehicles has. But assuming on a 12K miles a yr avg. and that the vehicle is well equipped - it should go for anywhere between $18K - $20K. The greater variance in price comes due to the fact that there is a sport package option and a non - sport, along with many other options that can be included into the vehicle. The $18K - $20K is what the dealer would expect to sale the vehicle at.
The 2000 c230K will all depend on the type of options and the amt of miles the vehicles has. But assuming on a 12K miles a yr avg. and that the vehicle is well equipped - it should go for anywhere between $18K - $20K. The greater variance in price comes due to the fact that there is a sport package option and a non - sport, along with many other options that can be included into the vehicle. The $18K - $20K is what the dealer would expect to sale the vehicle at.
#62
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Originally posted by clsc510
There are couple of things to keep in mind. Private selling will almost always sell for cheaper than a dealer. will sell. Furthermore, it all depends on the modifications, but typically any suspension mods (aftermarket) products or engine mods will by rule of thumb lower a cars resale value further.
THe $16-$17K for the for the 95 C36 is based off of a 60K mile mileage, well equipped and that it is in good - very good condition with the cost of refurbishing the vehicle included. Once a car reaches 90K+ miles, the value will drop immensely. Should your 97 C36 had 60K miles (based on avg of 12k a yr), you car is valued at $16-$17 on a private party sale (assuming it is in excellent condition).
Another thing to keep in mind is that all these prices are "national avg" that the 3rd party auto industry feels is "fairl" to both the selling and purchasing party. They aren't rules to go by - just something to gauge off of.
There are couple of things to keep in mind. Private selling will almost always sell for cheaper than a dealer. will sell. Furthermore, it all depends on the modifications, but typically any suspension mods (aftermarket) products or engine mods will by rule of thumb lower a cars resale value further.
THe $16-$17K for the for the 95 C36 is based off of a 60K mile mileage, well equipped and that it is in good - very good condition with the cost of refurbishing the vehicle included. Once a car reaches 90K+ miles, the value will drop immensely. Should your 97 C36 had 60K miles (based on avg of 12k a yr), you car is valued at $16-$17 on a private party sale (assuming it is in excellent condition).
Another thing to keep in mind is that all these prices are "national avg" that the 3rd party auto industry feels is "fairl" to both the selling and purchasing party. They aren't rules to go by - just something to gauge off of.
#63
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Originally posted by GDawgC220
just got back from them this morning. They just sold the '00 C230K It's being prepped for delivery.
The C36 is listed for $17,900. I may take a test drive next time i'm in, which will be soon. From the looks of it this morning, it is in great condition. They just serviced it, 60k service that is.
Question though, is the AMG lettering seperate letters on the '95's or is it a sticky on type with the AMG all in one strip?
just got back from them this morning. They just sold the '00 C230K It's being prepped for delivery.
The C36 is listed for $17,900. I may take a test drive next time i'm in, which will be soon. From the looks of it this morning, it is in great condition. They just serviced it, 60k service that is.
Question though, is the AMG lettering seperate letters on the '95's or is it a sticky on type with the AMG all in one strip?
#65
Originally posted by ahopeter
aftermarket epuipment is only going to hurt market value when you trade into a dealer or sell to someone looking for a non-modded vehicle. but this is usually not the case when privately selling a rare vehicle to someone young and looking for a specially equipped car. i am well aware of how the market works, but there is no way that you can tell me that a vehicle that is two years older, using older technology, a 4speed instead of a 5 speed, old climate control, lower hp output, is going to be worth that much more than a a very clean 97. of course the miles play a factor... but still dont make it a car worth 19k. nothing you wrote is news to anyone, pretty much all common knowledge stuff.
aftermarket epuipment is only going to hurt market value when you trade into a dealer or sell to someone looking for a non-modded vehicle. but this is usually not the case when privately selling a rare vehicle to someone young and looking for a specially equipped car. i am well aware of how the market works, but there is no way that you can tell me that a vehicle that is two years older, using older technology, a 4speed instead of a 5 speed, old climate control, lower hp output, is going to be worth that much more than a a very clean 97. of course the miles play a factor... but still dont make it a car worth 19k. nothing you wrote is news to anyone, pretty much all common knowledge stuff.
Last edited by clsc510; 04-23-2004 at 05:57 PM.
#67
hhmm $17.9k now?
a tip if you buy it.... drive it semi-hard in the first 3 months before the bumper-to-bumper warranty expires. Have them polish the car too because it's all swirled up last time I saw it.
Pay attention to any little thing that u find annoying (rattles/squeaks) - though I remember the car to be very solid.
again... check the brakes...
If you do buy it... we have to do a GTG I was really close to trading in my E420 for that C36 hehe.
a tip if you buy it.... drive it semi-hard in the first 3 months before the bumper-to-bumper warranty expires. Have them polish the car too because it's all swirled up last time I saw it.
Pay attention to any little thing that u find annoying (rattles/squeaks) - though I remember the car to be very solid.
again... check the brakes...
If you do buy it... we have to do a GTG I was really close to trading in my E420 for that C36 hehe.
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man, I go to the caribbean for a couple of weeks and look at how much I miss!! I wish I knew how much the C230S went for....maybe the new owner will join the forum! ps, GDawg, love the new pic!
#71
goddamn that is one fast car
Was in for ML service this morning and asked if i could take a ride/drive in the C36. The person who accompanied me was one of the son's of the dealership. His older brother was the previous owner of the car.
He took me for a ride first, it was really low on gas, like last drop of gas. So he floored it out of the dealer and damn...that was fast. gass'd up then went back.
my turn took it out of the parking lot, gave it gas and flew up the hill. I didn't really like the grabbiness of the 17" sport tires...it was pulling left and right, like i had to fight back to control the car...is this normal? I've never driven anything with 17" rims and sport tire combo before, so I don't know.
Did a few miles long stretch of road, opened her up. Made a u-turn in a parking lot to go back. Coming out of the parking lot, i floored it and the thing fishtailed, goddamn there is a lot of power in the straight 6. ASR stopped the wheel spin, but it couldn't stop it fully cuz there was lots of power left.
Went back and parked it. I must say, one exhilerating ride! BUT, its on deposit for someone
The guy who I rode with is a MB enthusiast as well, we were just shootin' the **** about MBs during the ride...he's been looking for a 2000 C43 for himself. I asked him to keep an eye out for a C43 for me or another C36. He usually goes to auctions and ******es them up.
Yay! I finally have driven an AMG
Was in for ML service this morning and asked if i could take a ride/drive in the C36. The person who accompanied me was one of the son's of the dealership. His older brother was the previous owner of the car.
He took me for a ride first, it was really low on gas, like last drop of gas. So he floored it out of the dealer and damn...that was fast. gass'd up then went back.
my turn took it out of the parking lot, gave it gas and flew up the hill. I didn't really like the grabbiness of the 17" sport tires...it was pulling left and right, like i had to fight back to control the car...is this normal? I've never driven anything with 17" rims and sport tire combo before, so I don't know.
Did a few miles long stretch of road, opened her up. Made a u-turn in a parking lot to go back. Coming out of the parking lot, i floored it and the thing fishtailed, goddamn there is a lot of power in the straight 6. ASR stopped the wheel spin, but it couldn't stop it fully cuz there was lots of power left.
Went back and parked it. I must say, one exhilerating ride! BUT, its on deposit for someone
The guy who I rode with is a MB enthusiast as well, we were just shootin' the **** about MBs during the ride...he's been looking for a 2000 C43 for himself. I asked him to keep an eye out for a C43 for me or another C36. He usually goes to auctions and ******es them up.
Yay! I finally have driven an AMG
#72
they got another w202 in stock now, just came in
2000 C230 Kompressor, black on black, 35k miles for 19,900.
I don't think this one is a sport, but I forgot. Hmmmmm...
2000 C230 Kompressor, black on black, 35k miles for 19,900.
I don't think this one is a sport, but I forgot. Hmmmmm...