About 1.3 million Mercedes recalled
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About 1.3 million Mercedes recalled
Article today from CNN.com
http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/31/Auto...ex.htm?cnn=yes
About 1.3 million Mercedes recalled
Carmaker concerned about voltage regulators, battery control, brake systems.
March 31, 2005: 9:21 AM EST
FRANKFURT (Reuters) - U.S.-German carmaker DaimlerChrysler is recalling 1.3 million Mercedes cars as it tries to fix quality woes that are riddling its German luxury car division, it said Thursday.
Mercedes will recall the cars in several model ranges worldwide to fix problems with alternators and batteries, which do not affect the cars' safety, according to the supplier, car-parts maker Robert Bosch.
Mercedes chief Eckhard Cordes, who said earlier this year that his drive to resolve the quality problems would hit this year's earnings, said the cars Mercedes makes now are of high quality and that the recall addressed legacy problems.
"We are now producing the best product quality ever and our aim is to ensure that those vehicles in the hands of customers which are the cause of complaints achieve a standard of quality that reflects our highest expectations," Cordes said in a statement.
DaimlerChrysler declined to say how much the recall would cost.
Shares in DaimlerChrysler dipped after news of the recall, paring earlier gains, to trade up 0.3 percent at 34.56 in afternoon activity, in line with the blue-chip DAX index.
Mercedes said it would check, and if necessary, replace the voltage regulator in the alternator on vehicles with six- and eight-cylinder engines built between June 2001 and Nov. 2004 in the recall.
The carmaker will install new battery-control software on E-class and CLS-class models made from Jan. 2002 to Jan. 2005. In addition, it will update the braking system on current E-class, SL-class and CLS-class models, made since June 2001
http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/31/Auto...ex.htm?cnn=yes
About 1.3 million Mercedes recalled
Carmaker concerned about voltage regulators, battery control, brake systems.
March 31, 2005: 9:21 AM EST
FRANKFURT (Reuters) - U.S.-German carmaker DaimlerChrysler is recalling 1.3 million Mercedes cars as it tries to fix quality woes that are riddling its German luxury car division, it said Thursday.
Mercedes will recall the cars in several model ranges worldwide to fix problems with alternators and batteries, which do not affect the cars' safety, according to the supplier, car-parts maker Robert Bosch.
Mercedes chief Eckhard Cordes, who said earlier this year that his drive to resolve the quality problems would hit this year's earnings, said the cars Mercedes makes now are of high quality and that the recall addressed legacy problems.
"We are now producing the best product quality ever and our aim is to ensure that those vehicles in the hands of customers which are the cause of complaints achieve a standard of quality that reflects our highest expectations," Cordes said in a statement.
DaimlerChrysler declined to say how much the recall would cost.
Shares in DaimlerChrysler dipped after news of the recall, paring earlier gains, to trade up 0.3 percent at 34.56 in afternoon activity, in line with the blue-chip DAX index.
Mercedes said it would check, and if necessary, replace the voltage regulator in the alternator on vehicles with six- and eight-cylinder engines built between June 2001 and Nov. 2004 in the recall.
The carmaker will install new battery-control software on E-class and CLS-class models made from Jan. 2002 to Jan. 2005. In addition, it will update the braking system on current E-class, SL-class and CLS-class models, made since June 2001
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Wow look at that,
Finally mercedes is actually doing something about all these quality control issues. CHeck that out too at least all those recall models don't include the c-classes for the most part. It's ashame. All that money spent on the higher end models and even the new CLS has problems! WTF!
Finally mercedes is actually doing something about all these quality control issues. CHeck that out too at least all those recall models don't include the c-classes for the most part. It's ashame. All that money spent on the higher end models and even the new CLS has problems! WTF!
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If I am reading this article correctly, and I like to think that I am, your c class is included if since: "Mercedes said it would check, and if necessary, replace the voltage regulator in the alternator on vehicles with six- and eight-cylinder engines built between June 2001 and Nov. 2004 in the recall". I would check with your dealer.
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Originally Posted by Imperial C320
So the E, CLS and SL ehh.
My little C has never had these odd problems. Hahahaha. I wonder which Mercedes is the real mercedes now.
My little C has never had these odd problems. Hahahaha. I wonder which Mercedes is the real mercedes now.
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If I am reading this article correctly, and I like to think that I am, your c class is included if since: "Mercedes said it would check, and if necessary, replace the voltage regulator in the alternator on vehicles with six- and eight-cylinder engines built between June 2001 and Nov. 2004 in the recall". I would check with your dealer.
He has a four cylinder.
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In addition, it will update the braking system on current E-class, SL-class and CLS-class models, made since June 2001.
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
Ah HA so there is a problem with E class brakes! Did you guys see that post from the guy with an E55 that lost both its brake systems while on the highway?
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Originally Posted by caliboy
wOW WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN. On this forum, I have to read that. Was he ok? That is crazy. Stupid electronic brakes!
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/92965-2004-e500-brake-failure.html
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Go ahead and criticize Consumer Reports all you want, but you have to admit Mercedes is not building cars like they use to. Mercedes came out on the bottom in terms of reliability. They have been riddled with problems recently.
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Go ahead and criticize Consumer Reports all you want, but you have to admit Mercedes is not building cars like they use to. Mercedes came out on the bottom in terms of reliability. They have been riddled with problems recently.
It's all a lie I tell you ....a lie
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Originally Posted by Imperial C320
So the E, CLS and SL ehh.
My little C has never had these odd problems. Hahahaha. I wonder which Mercedes is the real mercedes now.
My little C has never had these odd problems. Hahahaha. I wonder which Mercedes is the real mercedes now.
I think I'll go out and give my '05 4 cyl. a hug!. It does me good to see MB address issues, I know they are trying to bring their quality back to the good ole days so here's to ya!
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You know I will tell you a secret my MB Service Manager told me one time. He says out of all the newer Mercedes-Benz models built(Designs after 2000), the C-class and the CLK are the most reliable MBs built. He says the worst reliabiliy record is the S-Class(W220) then followed by the SL (R230) and the E-Class (W211). The reason is simple he told me, More electronics = more failure. And wel all know about MB electronics. Its so funny to me when people bash our cars when they are the least likely to see the service bay out of all the cars in the MB line-up. None of the higher end owners will admit this obviously.
Now Im not saying the C-class is the best MB built after the year 2000. But understand when you pay 60,000 for an E500 or 90,000 for an SL that your not going to get better reliability or quality. Now would I buy an E500 or SL I could? Of course, but I know it will never be as reliable as my C320.
Btw My service Maganer told me the CL is the only car in the high end range that still quality and reliable. MB does a better job with the model for some reason. Another reason its one of my favorite cars.
Now Im not saying the C-class is the best MB built after the year 2000. But understand when you pay 60,000 for an E500 or 90,000 for an SL that your not going to get better reliability or quality. Now would I buy an E500 or SL I could? Of course, but I know it will never be as reliable as my C320.
Btw My service Maganer told me the CL is the only car in the high end range that still quality and reliable. MB does a better job with the model for some reason. Another reason its one of my favorite cars.
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I hear the same about BMW, the M3's and 7 series are in the shop every other week
Originally Posted by Imperial C320
You know I will tell you a secret my MB Service Manager told me one time. He says out of all the newer Mercedes-Benz models built(Designs after 2000), the C-class and the CLK are the most reliable MBs built. He says the worst reliabiliy record is the S-Class(W220) then followed by the SL (R230) and the E-Class (W211). The reason is simple he told me, More electronics = more failure. And wel all know about MB electronics. Its so funny to me when people bash our cars when they are the least likely to see the service bay out of all the cars in the MB line-up. None of the higher end owners will admit this obviously.
Now Im not saying the C-class is the best MB built after the year 2000. But understand when you pay 60,000 for an E500 or 90,000 for an SL that your not going to get better reliability or quality. Now would I buy an E500 or SL I could? Of course, but I know it will never be as reliable as my C320.
Btw My service Maganer told me the CL is the only car in the high end range that still quality and reliable. MB does a better job with the model for some reason. Another reason its one of my favorite cars.
Now Im not saying the C-class is the best MB built after the year 2000. But understand when you pay 60,000 for an E500 or 90,000 for an SL that your not going to get better reliability or quality. Now would I buy an E500 or SL I could? Of course, but I know it will never be as reliable as my C320.
Btw My service Maganer told me the CL is the only car in the high end range that still quality and reliable. MB does a better job with the model for some reason. Another reason its one of my favorite cars.
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Originally Posted by Imperial C320
You know I will tell you a secret my MB Service Manager told me one time. He says out of all the newer Mercedes-Benz models built(Designs after 2000), the C-class and the CLK are the most reliable MBs built. He says the worst reliabiliy record is the S-Class(W220) then followed by the SL (R230) and the E-Class (W211). The reason is simple he told me, More electronics = more failure. And wel all know about MB electronics. Its so funny to me when people bash our cars when they are the least likely to see the service bay out of all the cars in the MB line-up. None of the higher end owners will admit this obviously.
Now Im not saying the C-class is the best MB built after the year 2000. But understand when you pay 60,000 for an E500 or 90,000 for an SL that your not going to get better reliability or quality. Now would I buy an E500 or SL I could? Of course, but I know it will never be as reliable as my C320.
Btw My service Maganer told me the CL is the only car in the high end range that still quality and reliable. MB does a better job with the model for some reason. Another reason its one of my favorite cars.
Now Im not saying the C-class is the best MB built after the year 2000. But understand when you pay 60,000 for an E500 or 90,000 for an SL that your not going to get better reliability or quality. Now would I buy an E500 or SL I could? Of course, but I know it will never be as reliable as my C320.
Btw My service Maganer told me the CL is the only car in the high end range that still quality and reliable. MB does a better job with the model for some reason. Another reason its one of my favorite cars.
I have to agree..for example I just got a near new (less then 2000 miles) '05 ML500 as a extended loaner...Not only does the fit and finish look worse then a C interior IMO (no dash computer, large gaps in the panels noted, old-style looking speedo, etc) the thing has a weird squeak either from a seal or seat I hear at times and the brakes squeak like a semi....with the sticker in the glove box showing $53k ! .....would think for almost $15-20k over a C it would show...
(also they were unloading the new '06's M's when I was at the dealership...don't know how they drive but they look 100 times better then the '05's)
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shortbear,
Thanks for the info. I got my parents a 2002 E320 a couple years ago and they're in their 60's, so the last thing I'd want to see is my parents having brake problems and not being able to control the vehicle! I brought the article to my Dad to have it looked into at our dealership! Hopefully, they don't have any problems with it, but if they do, at least this will cover them.
drex
Thanks for the info. I got my parents a 2002 E320 a couple years ago and they're in their 60's, so the last thing I'd want to see is my parents having brake problems and not being able to control the vehicle! I brought the article to my Dad to have it looked into at our dealership! Hopefully, they don't have any problems with it, but if they do, at least this will cover them.
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
shortbear,
Thanks for the info. I got my parents a 2002 E320 a couple years ago and they're in their 60's, so the last thing I'd want to see is my parents having brake problems and not being able to control the vehicle! I brought the article to my Dad to have it looked into at our dealership! Hopefully, they don't have any problems with it, but if they do, at least this will cover them.
drex
Thanks for the info. I got my parents a 2002 E320 a couple years ago and they're in their 60's, so the last thing I'd want to see is my parents having brake problems and not being able to control the vehicle! I brought the article to my Dad to have it looked into at our dealership! Hopefully, they don't have any problems with it, but if they do, at least this will cover them.
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Your not going to have brake problems in a W210 E-Class.
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Who turned in that turd of a design that put the regulator in the alternator? Out of space on the firewall or in the cabin where it might be just a little cooloer? Who is making these decisions? I bet it's the same guy who thought the world needed the Maybach.
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Originally Posted by Moviela
Who turned in that turd of a design that put the regulator in the alternator? Out of space on the firewall or in the cabin where it might be just a little cooloer? Who is making these decisions? I bet it's the same guy who thought the world needed the Maybach.
Thought I'd clarify,
Merc Alternator is by Bosch.
Both Delco and Bosch (Which are probably about 50 % of the alternators in the world) have the regulators built into the alternator.
Having the regulator inside the alternator is inherently more reliable since it simplifies wiring and reduces the number of piece parts on a car.
Ed
