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Old 04-27-2005, 04:53 PM
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I know, the problem is that she can lock/unlock to door (using the pin) without even stretching!
have you never thought of unscrewing the golf tees??
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Originally Posted by E320Star
U do, what is your point !!! :v
yes, i DO belong in a c32 however i am not a child. what is your point?
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i have a 3 1/2 year old who pulled up the golf door pins. i immediately bought the alluminum door pins as a replacement. when locked, the pins in the rear actually sit very low (lower than the surrounds) compared to the fronts. now, my son can't unlock the door!
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Originally Posted by NO_WUR_E
i have a 3 1/2 year old who pulled up the golf door pins. i immediately bought the alluminum door pins as a replacement. when locked, the pins in the rear actually sit very low (lower than the surrounds) compared to the fronts. now, my son can't unlock the door!
Sounds like the best solution, where did you get the pins, how much were they and how hard were they to install (if you don't mind me asking ).
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Originally Posted by Expat
Sounds like the best solution, where did you get the pins, how much were they and how hard were they to install (if you don't mind me asking ).
Jerry sells them... forget the price but I think a set of 4 was around $30-40.
I have a Coupé so I only needed 2. I went in with another Coupé owner and we each got what we needed. ForMyMercedes.com
Installing them is super easy. You need to remove your stock pins, might need a plier (wrap a cloth around the pin), to break it free from the loc-tite. Then just unscrew one, and scew in the new ones.

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Originally Posted by Expat
Sounds like the best solution, where did you get the pins, how much were they and how hard were they to install (if you don't mind me asking ).
before someone tells you to SFF, they're available from formymercedes.com, and they're around ~$30, and all you do is unscrew your old ones and screw the new ones in.

Here's one...
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...=door+pin+pics
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
Jerry sells them... forget the price but I think a set of 4 was around $30-40...

Installing them is super easy. You need to remove your stock pins, might need a plier (wrap a cloth around the pin), to break it free from the loc-tite. Then just unscrew one, and scew in the new ones.

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For the sedans, you don't even have to use pliers, we don't have the loc-tite that they use to secure the coupe door pins, so it's just straight unscrew and screw on...
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For the sedans, you don't even have to use pliers, we don't have the loc-tite that they use to secure the coupe door pins, so it's just straight unscrew and screw on...
good to know ! Then it's even easier than stated ! Go for it !

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Thanks for all the info, it's on the list!
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you can get the OEM ones from mercedes dealer for like 1.50$ each

they are black and plastic, but IMO they look better than metal ones that stand out too much

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Originally Posted by Expat
Sounds like the best solution, where did you get the pins, how much were they and how hard were they to install (if you don't mind me asking ).
i got it at formymercedes (as others have mentioned) 4 pins for $30. if you want to go all out, you can get the alluminum surrounds as well. if so, you'll have to break the old ones and snap in the new ones. for now, i decided to just get the pins for the sole purpose of safety for my child opening the door. it was really easy to install. unscrew old, screw in the new. no pliers needed. just hand tight the new ones on. hope the pic helps.
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erm...that is only like that in NA spec benzes...not in ROW benzes...

As for the child lock: every ROW W203 comes with the child lock feature...it is just the NA cars that come with different rear door locks and THAT is also the reason why the NA spec cars come with golfbal Ts as doorlock pins.

With a eurospec lock you will get the childlock.

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What's even better is the US W202 had the "lock 'em in" interior door handles AND the child lock switch. So the golf tees could be made useless.

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What's even better is the US W202 had the "lock 'em in" interior door handles AND the child lock switch. So the golf tees could be made useless.

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I had my w202 for 7 years, and I NEVER noticed that or felt a need to check
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Have any of you with kids considered that in an emergency (car flips for example) the kids can't get out unless you unlock your door and since you remove the golf tees, they are essentially trapped.

If you kid keeps playing with the door locks, you need to raise you child differently.

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in an emergency doesn't the car automatically unlock all doors?
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eh, this is a non-issue for me, so good or bad design I could care less. the one thing that BUGS me is the LATCH system. does EVERY damn car really need this? first off, the latches look like ****, and they tend to stick people in the back sometimes. can't that just be a dealer installed option or just an option for the 20% that actually need it? I think it's a waste of money when they can use it for other safety measures...
Do you have the latches folded into the recess of the seat? I just want to make sure that you know that they have an extended position for when they're used and a recessed position for when they're not. I can't see them when they're recessed.

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Originally Posted by tifosiv122
Have any of you with kids considered that in an emergency (car flips for example) the kids can't get out unless you unlock your door and since you remove the golf tees, they are essentially trapped.

If you kid keeps playing with the door locks, you need to raise you child differently.

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My daughter's in a childseat so she needs adult intervention to get in and out of the car anyway, the issue here is MB choosing not to implement a standard safety feature in the US marketplace.
Out of interest do you have any kids?
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Originally Posted by tifosiv122
Have any of you with kids considered that in an emergency (car flips for example) the kids can't get out unless you unlock your door and since you remove the golf tees, they are essentially trapped.

If you kid keeps playing with the door locks, you need to raise you child differently.

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I'm not an expert on this feature, but a few members on this forum have said that MB's are equipped with some gyro / erratic movement sensor, so in case of a roll over / major MAJOR shake-up, the car automatically unlocks the doors.

Some were surprised when the car automatically unlocked the doors, due to an erratic lane change to get off a highway, or hitting those road bumps and losing steering control. Maybe an oversensitive gyro, but nevertheless, if it is there, that's a great safety feature in itself.

If anyone knows the real story, please chime in ! This is definitely not something I would go out and TEST !

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Originally Posted by Saprissa
I'm not an expert on this feature, but a few members on this forum have said that MB's are equipped with some gyro / erratic movement sensor, so in case of a roll over / major MAJOR shake-up, the car automatically unlocks the doors.

Some were surprised when the car automatically unlocked the doors, due to an erratic lane change to get off a highway, or hitting those road bumps and losing steering control. Maybe an oversensitive gyro, but nevertheless, if it is there, that's a great safety feature in itself.

If anyone knows the real story, please chime in ! This is definitely not something I would go out and TEST !
This is true. But it happens only rarely. In 4-years with my W203, I had this happen for the first time just two weeks ago... I rounded a corner and went over a bumpy RR track at speed, the rotation of the car and the bumps in the RR crossing caused the gyro sensor to unlock my doors. At first, it made me think something was defective, then I remembered the auto un-lock feature.
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Originally Posted by tifosiv122
Have any of you with kids considered that in an emergency (car flips for example) the kids can't get out unless you unlock your door and since you remove the golf tees, they are essentially trapped.

If you kid keeps playing with the door locks, you need to raise you child differently.

Erik
It really is a non issue since if you have the child locks the door can not open from the interior anyhow. So either way you are screwed! And yes the MB does unlock when the vehicle encounters certain situations. So the door would unlock themselves before the car even landed!
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Originally Posted by tifosiv122
Have any of you with kids considered that in an emergency (car flips for example) the kids can't get out unless you unlock your door and since you remove the golf tees, they are essentially trapped.

If you kid keeps playing with the door locks, you need to raise you child differently.

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Life is full of "what ifs"

Yes, I have considered that scenario prior to switching over to the alluminum pins. My 3 1/2 year old is still in a car seat though. When he's possibly 5 years old and in a booster seat, then I might switch back. I've also read threads here about the doors unlocking during hard driving. Seems to be a safety feature of MB. Even if there were child proof lock installed in the car (regardless if it's a Benz or other automobile manufacturer), your stated situation would be the same. The same could be said about disabling the windows to be opened from the rear. During in emergency, and the doors get jammed, windows are disabled.....end result "essentially trapped".

Do you have kids???? If not, you probably don't realized that children sometime get facinated by non toy items than toy items. It's not a question of "raising your child differently", especially when were dealing with toddlers. It's about teaching them right from wrong. At their age, it just doesn't happen overnight.
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This is true. But it happens only rarely. In 4-years with my W203, I had this happen for the first time just two weeks ago... I rounded a corner and went over a bumpy RR track at speed, the rotation of the car and the bumps in the RR crossing caused the gyro sensor to unlock my doors. At first, it made me think something was defective, then I remembered the auto un-lock feature.
i kno mine has it?
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Life is full of "what ifs"

Yes, I have considered that scenario prior to switching over to the alluminum pins. My 3 1/2 year old is still in a car seat though. When he's possibly 5 years old and in a booster seat, then I might switch back. I've also read threads here about the doors unlocking during hard driving. Seems to be a safety feature of MB. Even if there were child proof lock installed in the car (regardless if it's a Benz or other automobile manufacturer), your stated situation would be the same. The same could be said about disabling the windows to be opened from the rear. During in emergency, and the doors get jammed, windows are disabled.....end result "essentially trapped".

Do you have kids???? If not, you probably don't realized that children sometime get facinated by non toy items than toy items. It's not a question of "raising your child differently", especially when were dealing with toddlers. It's about teaching them right from wrong. At their age, it just doesn't happen overnight.
That and I would rather you keep your eyes on the road and not on the rearview paying attention to the child in the back trying to unlock a door! Much better if you do not have to worry about it, since children are very curious and will do some strange things while you can't really see them!


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