Anyone go to ATL ML Road Rally today?
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Anyone go to ATL ML Road Rally today?
I was considering going tomorrow (Sunday). I know Buell said the ML rally he attended sucked, but my wife actually likes SUV's and is considering the new ML.
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I went to the San Diego ML Road Rally today !!
it wasn't too bad ! Besides the ML350 and ML500, they had a nice array of 2005-2006 models including an E55 AMG, CL600, and CLS500.
The track had plenty of turns and slaloms, plus a nice straight-away to get it really moving. Then at the end some "rough terrain" (pieces of rubber) to really go off-roading. Drove both the ML350 and 500. Don't know why anyone would go for the 350. Lacks power for such a huge behemoth. If you're going to tow ANYTHING, don't even look at the 350, go straight to the 500.
The styling of the new ML looks more like a Lexus, Acura, BMW hybrid, although the front (exception of headlights) does look a bit more aggressive with its angled windshield.
I was surprised that the new ML's do seem a lot smoother while torquier than previous models. A lot of neat gadgets too, including self-opening/closing trunk hatches, SIRIUS Sat Radio, and shift selector on the steering wheel leaving plenty of room / space between the two front seats for LARGE cup holders and storage space, not to mention the 2 monkey bars to hold on to when you flip the thing going too fast around a bend.
anyway, got my free cheese sticks, Norwegian bottled water, and of course "THE MASSAGE" oooohhhhh !
filled out the survey and got another Mercedes-Benz ball cap.
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it wasn't too bad ! Besides the ML350 and ML500, they had a nice array of 2005-2006 models including an E55 AMG, CL600, and CLS500.
The track had plenty of turns and slaloms, plus a nice straight-away to get it really moving. Then at the end some "rough terrain" (pieces of rubber) to really go off-roading. Drove both the ML350 and 500. Don't know why anyone would go for the 350. Lacks power for such a huge behemoth. If you're going to tow ANYTHING, don't even look at the 350, go straight to the 500.
The styling of the new ML looks more like a Lexus, Acura, BMW hybrid, although the front (exception of headlights) does look a bit more aggressive with its angled windshield.
I was surprised that the new ML's do seem a lot smoother while torquier than previous models. A lot of neat gadgets too, including self-opening/closing trunk hatches, SIRIUS Sat Radio, and shift selector on the steering wheel leaving plenty of room / space between the two front seats for LARGE cup holders and storage space, not to mention the 2 monkey bars to hold on to when you flip the thing going too fast around a bend.
anyway, got my free cheese sticks, Norwegian bottled water, and of course "THE MASSAGE" oooohhhhh !
filled out the survey and got another Mercedes-Benz ball cap.
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
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Hmm? We were considering the 350 because of price. I probably wouldn't even drive the 500 because I knew I would never again be satisfied with the 350. I never drove a C320 or C32 because of this same (weird?) logic
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Don't worry about registering, had a friend come with his wife that never registered and that didn't stop him. It's funny how the guys want to drive the Mercedes for Ladies (ML). The ML350 is actually quite peppy, 0-60 in 7.2 according to today's Motorweek. Just wish gas would go to $10/gallon so people would stop buying them.
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Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
It's funny how the guys want to drive the Mercedes for Ladies (ML).
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Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
I went for the giveaways which they didn't have. I asked them if ML stood for Mercedes for Ladies and they guy that worked there said yes.
You don't like SUV's, thus you don't like the ML, therefore you're trying to degrade it by perpetuating this ridiculous erroneous statement that its a girl's vehicle. Give it up. No one is buying it. I GUARANTEE you there are more women driving C classes than men!
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and that doesnt hurt our pockets? 
ml gas mileage is actually pretty decent compared to other suvs. well, did you know that c class stands for cheap class?
ml gas mileage is actually pretty decent compared to other suvs. well, did you know that c class stands for cheap class?
Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
Just wish gas would go to $10/gallon so people would stop buying them.
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I've never seen a man driving an ML on the street in The O.C. and yes, C = cheap, E = economy and S = super, common knowledge. And 15 mpg city can't be considered good by any standards, not when the Lexus RX400 gets 31 mpg in the city, is better looking, more comfortable and faster, a far better choice for the ladies.
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Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
C = cheap, E = economy and S = super, common knowledge.
CL=cheap...?!!!!
CLS=cheap...?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"Mercedes assigns the letter designation to a model to describe one or more of a car's major characteristics in a general way. Some model letters on older cars from the 1920's and 30's were:
"K" Kurz (German for Short)
"L" Lang (Long)
"V" Vor (Front, engine in front)
"H" Heck (Rear, engine in Rear)
Model letter designations on modern cars usually mean:
"K" Kompressor
"C" Coupe
"S" Sedan
"E" Einspritzer (fuel injection)
"G" Gelaendewagen (off-road vehicle) or Grand
"D" Diesel
"T" Turbo or Tourer
"S" Sport
"L" Leicht (Light weight)
Mercedes now markets cars according to Class designation. Some Classes are "S", "E", "C", and "M". These Class letters do not appear to have any particular meaning."
~from some guy that seems to know a lot about MB's
"K" Kurz (German for Short)
"L" Lang (Long)
"V" Vor (Front, engine in front)
"H" Heck (Rear, engine in Rear)
Model letter designations on modern cars usually mean:
"K" Kompressor
"C" Coupe
"S" Sedan
"E" Einspritzer (fuel injection)
"G" Gelaendewagen (off-road vehicle) or Grand
"D" Diesel
"T" Turbo or Tourer
"S" Sport
"L" Leicht (Light weight)
Mercedes now markets cars according to Class designation. Some Classes are "S", "E", "C", and "M". These Class letters do not appear to have any particular meaning."
~from some guy that seems to know a lot about MB's
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Originally Posted by Jim Banville
Mercedes now markets cars according to Class designation. Some Classes are "S", "E", "C", and "M". These Class letters do not appear to have any particular meaning."
~from some guy that seems to know a lot about MB's
~from some guy that seems to know a lot about MB's
so, would CL / SL be it's own class or part of the C, S classes ?
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I did go to the ML test drive at Qualcom Stadium. I have to say, i was very dissapointed to learn that the new ML is no longer based on a truck chasis, but rather a unibody construction.
Fine, if i was taking the kids to school and needed a mini-van but was anti-mini-van. But being a previous ML owner, and driving it down to Cabo San Lucas, with several off roading expieriences... I would not be interested in the new ML as a SUV.
Although, it was fun to get the tires singing around the sharp curves in the ML500. It felt as if it would be comfortable, and was definatly given a lot more interior and exterior design.
GREAT family car (shopping/soccer mom car).... But not a good vehicle for doing anything outdoors.
Fine, if i was taking the kids to school and needed a mini-van but was anti-mini-van. But being a previous ML owner, and driving it down to Cabo San Lucas, with several off roading expieriences... I would not be interested in the new ML as a SUV.
Although, it was fun to get the tires singing around the sharp curves in the ML500. It felt as if it would be comfortable, and was definatly given a lot more interior and exterior design.
GREAT family car (shopping/soccer mom car).... But not a good vehicle for doing anything outdoors.
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there is no better car for the ladies than a c class
Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
I've never seen a man driving an ML on the street in The O.C. and yes, C = cheap, E = economy and S = super, common knowledge. And 15 mpg city can't be considered good by any standards, not when the Lexus RX400 gets 31 mpg in the city, is better looking, more comfortable and faster, a far better choice for the ladies.
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Originally Posted by Justinius7
I did go to the ML test drive at Qualcom Stadium. I have to say, i was very dissapointed to learn that the new ML is no longer based on a truck chasis, but rather a unibody construction.
If you look over in the "new ML" forum, you'll see where either Road&Track or Car&Driver said the new unibody construction was better and made the whole vehicle stronger w/ less flex. Seeing as how the majority of owners will probably treat it as a tall station wagon vs. off-road vehicle, it was probably a wise move.
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I went Saturday afternoon. I like the new ML, but was disappointed in the 16/20 MPG ratings for the ML350. The 500 is rated at 14 city...forgot the hwy number.
Jim, you would have had no problem getting in as I noticed many people there who "walked in" from hearing the radio spots. I overheard someone mention is was her first time in a "Murr-say-dees" and she liked it very much. She couldn't believe that anyone could just come on over and drive them. BTW, I have more fingers than she had teeth.
Overall, it was a nice setup...albiet spartan. No goody bags and just bottled water and pieces of cheesecake on a lollipop stick to get the Mercedes-Benz warm and fuzzies. All of the display vehicles were open to crawl around in and they had a decent course set up to see how the MLs handled. I drove each a couple times and actually preferred the 350....although the 500 had some very nice exterior styling cues.
We may be in the market sometime next year...
Jim, you would have had no problem getting in as I noticed many people there who "walked in" from hearing the radio spots. I overheard someone mention is was her first time in a "Murr-say-dees" and she liked it very much. She couldn't believe that anyone could just come on over and drive them. BTW, I have more fingers than she had teeth.
Overall, it was a nice setup...albiet spartan. No goody bags and just bottled water and pieces of cheesecake on a lollipop stick to get the Mercedes-Benz warm and fuzzies. All of the display vehicles were open to crawl around in and they had a decent course set up to see how the MLs handled. I drove each a couple times and actually preferred the 350....although the 500 had some very nice exterior styling cues.
We may be in the market sometime next year...
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Originally Posted by straightSIX
there is no better car for the ladies than a c class
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Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
I agree and have been trying to convince my wife into getting a C wagon but that's not what they ladies want. They want to sit up high and use their size to bully their way into things.
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Originally Posted by Jim Banville
Ahhhhhh! So your hatred of SUV's is based on your fear of being around strong women. Now I get it
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Originally Posted by Chappy
I went Saturday afternoon. I like the new ML, but was disappointed in the 16/20 MPG ratings for the ML350. The 500 is rated at 14 city...forgot the hwy number.
Jim, you would have had no problem getting in as I noticed many people there who "walked in" from hearing the radio spots. I overheard someone mention is was her first time in a "Murr-say-dees" and she liked it very much. She couldn't believe that anyone could just come on over and drive them. BTW, I have more fingers than she had teeth.
Overall, it was a nice setup...albiet spartan. No goody bags and just bottled water and pieces of cheesecake on a lollipop stick to get the Mercedes-Benz warm and fuzzies. All of the display vehicles were open to crawl around in and they had a decent course set up to see how the MLs handled. I drove each a couple times and actually preferred the 350....although the 500 had some very nice exterior styling cues.
We may be in the market sometime next year...
Jim, you would have had no problem getting in as I noticed many people there who "walked in" from hearing the radio spots. I overheard someone mention is was her first time in a "Murr-say-dees" and she liked it very much. She couldn't believe that anyone could just come on over and drive them. BTW, I have more fingers than she had teeth.
Overall, it was a nice setup...albiet spartan. No goody bags and just bottled water and pieces of cheesecake on a lollipop stick to get the Mercedes-Benz warm and fuzzies. All of the display vehicles were open to crawl around in and they had a decent course set up to see how the MLs handled. I drove each a couple times and actually preferred the 350....although the 500 had some very nice exterior styling cues.
We may be in the market sometime next year...
Yeah, I went Sunday at noon (Atlanta), it was not very busy. My write-up is here
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164340
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Yeah, I went Sunday at noon (Atlanta), it was not very busy. My write-up is here
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164340
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164340
Funny, from a distance I too often confuse Kia Sorento's with ML's
