Swaybar question. C32 endlinks needed? maybe?
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Swaybar question. C32 endlinks needed? maybe?
Hey, im going to be buying some used Brabus swaybars in the next few days. they are comming off a C32. According to the previous owner the holes were drilled from 10mm to 12mm to accomidate the larger bolts the C32 uses. now my question is, what is needed to make this bar fit?
do i basicly need whats need to put a c32 bar on my car? I.E. bracked, bolts, and endlinks?
or can i just slap it on and use a washer to help with the larger holes?
also.. if i do need some C32 stuff what is needed?
thanks all.
do i basicly need whats need to put a c32 bar on my car? I.E. bracked, bolts, and endlinks?
or can i just slap it on and use a washer to help with the larger holes?
also.. if i do need some C32 stuff what is needed?
thanks all.
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The '05s come with the C32 AMG sways stock. I measured them myself, I believe it was 16 or 17mm front 22 or 23mm back. I forget the exact numbers. As far as the end link goes I honestly cant remember if it was 10 or 12mm but I beleive it was 12mm. Dont quote me on that, grab a caliper and measure away!!!
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Oh just realized you are getting Brabus sways and not C32 sways! Never mind then!!!
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Oh just realized you are getting Brabus sways and not C32 sways! Never mind then!!!
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Originally Posted by Capt Sharkbait o7, names changed to protect the postie
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Oh just realized you are getting Brabus sways and not C32 sways! Never mind then!!!
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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
well its comming off a c32 so i would assume they are the same size as a C32.
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bump, any one know? drilled out holes from 10 to 12 = c32 fit... how to make fit on my car?
and if the stock sways are the same size as the c32 for my car are these a direct swap?
thanks
and if the stock sways are the same size as the c32 for my car are these a direct swap?
thanks
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same here...
C32 sways = 12mm end link holes
C32 sways = 12mm end link holes
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you do need to drill out the holes on the car, in order for them to fit. the endlink connection on the sway will already be 12mm.
the sway connection hole on the car is 10mm, that can be drilled to 12, no prob. thats what i did to mine.
the sway connection hole on the car is 10mm, that can be drilled to 12, no prob. thats what i did to mine.
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Anybody know if this applies for the 2004.5 SS also? I just bought the Brabus sways from IdriveFast, but he's got a C32.
I talked to Brabus and they said it should be a direct swap with no problem. I'm pretty sure it was established that the 2004.5 refresh w/ the new wheels also included the lower suspension as well as the amg sways.
Also, on a side note, anybody know why the sways are designed to have the front thicker than the rear? People have told me that this potentially could enduce understeer and my front wheels might lift off the ground when turning (if the front swaybar is thicker).
I talked to Brabus and they said it should be a direct swap with no problem. I'm pretty sure it was established that the 2004.5 refresh w/ the new wheels also included the lower suspension as well as the amg sways.
Also, on a side note, anybody know why the sways are designed to have the front thicker than the rear? People have told me that this potentially could enduce understeer and my front wheels might lift off the ground when turning (if the front swaybar is thicker).
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
yes the front sways are thicker than the rear, standard and AMG setup.
Do you know if this enduces heavy understeer? It kinda concerned me when people had mentioned this to me.
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Also, on a side note, anybody know why the sways are designed to have the front thicker than the rear? People have told me that this potentially could enduce understeer and my front wheels might lift off the ground when turning (if the front swaybar is thicker).
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Thanks, Citron.
Do you know if this enduces heavy understeer? It kinda concerned me when people had mentioned this to me.
Do you know if this enduces heavy understeer? It kinda concerned me when people had mentioned this to me.
the problem I had with the sways was refitting the auto leveling sensor for the BiX. I had to take the car to the dealer to have it attached properly.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
im not really sure. i havent noticed heavy understeering. i think it increased the drving characteristics of my car. the main difference i noticed was that it really improved body of the car at high speed on highway interchanges and driving curvey mountain roads.
the problem I had with the sways was refitting the auto leveling sensor for the BiX. I had to take the car to the dealer to have it attached properly.
the problem I had with the sways was refitting the auto leveling sensor for the BiX. I had to take the car to the dealer to have it attached properly.
Man, I'm gonna have to tell the shop I'm having them installed at (Yes, I am too lazy to install myself...LOL).
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yes the autoleveling sensor is attached to the sway bar. there is a flat area on the sway where the sensor attahes. i tried and tried, but i couldnt get the sensor on properly. i had to take the car into the dealer and told them lights just started acting up. i didnt tell them i upgraded the sways, and since the are black like the originals and still have the flat area where the BiX autoleveling sensor attaches, they never said anything. they fixed it under warranty.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
yes the autoleveling sensor is attached to the sway bar. there is a flat area on the sway where the sensor attahes. i tried and tried, but i couldnt get the sensor on properly. i had to take the car into the dealer and told them lights just started acting up. i didnt tell them i upgraded the sways, and since the are black like the originals and still have the flat area where the BiX autoleveling sensor attaches, they never said anything. they fixed it under warranty.
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i cant remember which one, but when i was researching sways, there was one that didnt have the area for the sensor and this was a main reason i stuck with the AMG sways. OEM fit all around.
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Semi-problem...
I hope someone can help on this one.
I went to have the Brabus swaybars installed today, but they had problems with installation. The OEM bracket did not fit over the coupling on the Brabus swaybar.
Does anybody know if Brabus has a different bracket to match up to both couplings on the swaybar or should it fit easily?
Any help would be great. I thought that having a 2004.5 w/ refresh would mean that I had the AMG suspension, but I don't think it is the AMG.
Thanks everybody.
I went to have the Brabus swaybars installed today, but they had problems with installation. The OEM bracket did not fit over the coupling on the Brabus swaybar.
Does anybody know if Brabus has a different bracket to match up to both couplings on the swaybar or should it fit easily?
Any help would be great. I thought that having a 2004.5 w/ refresh would mean that I had the AMG suspension, but I don't think it is the AMG.
Thanks everybody.
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
...People have told me that this potentially could enduce understeer and my front wheels might lift off the ground when turning (if the front swaybar is thicker).
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
I hope someone can help on this one.
I went to have the Brabus swaybars installed today, but they had problems with installation. The OEM bracket did not fit over the coupling on the Brabus swaybar.
Does anybody know if Brabus has a different bracket to match up to both couplings on the swaybar or should it fit easily?
Any help would be great. I thought that having a 2004.5 w/ refresh would mean that I had the AMG suspension, but I don't think it is the AMG.
Thanks everybody.
I went to have the Brabus swaybars installed today, but they had problems with installation. The OEM bracket did not fit over the coupling on the Brabus swaybar.
Does anybody know if Brabus has a different bracket to match up to both couplings on the swaybar or should it fit easily?
Any help would be great. I thought that having a 2004.5 w/ refresh would mean that I had the AMG suspension, but I don't think it is the AMG.
Thanks everybody.
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Still trying to find the right bracket to match the Brabus swaybars. Anybody know? I was told I needed to get the brackets from an '02, but that would be from the coupe (sedan didn't come out until 2003).
Can anybody confirm this being correct?
Can anybody confirm this being correct?
