Installing Front Camber/Castor Bolts & Thrust Arm Bushings (Possible DIY)

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Aug 23, 2005 | 02:16 PM
  #26  
Installing Front Camber/Crash Eccentric Bolts (Possible DIY)
Hey guys, gonna be jacking the car up with the death-jack to take pictures of the "simple" install I plan to undertake this afternoon. I recently acquired 2 sets of camber bolts from the dealership in attempt to correct my front camber at least 1/2 a degree. If anyone needs them, this is the part #.

A 000 330 00 18 (Camber Bolts) x 2.

It's a rather cheaper solution than going straight K-mac fronts, might as well try them right? Now usually the car will not come out of the factory with these. BUT if you've ever had an alignment at the dealership, the only way to do it is for them to actually replace your bolts. They're not meant to stand out and look different (so says my source) but they look surprisingly similar. Again, pics will follow for all ya'll to see. Patience!

BTW, if anyone knows which arm these actually will go on (after I provide pics), PLEASE chime in. Thanks.

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Aug 23, 2005 | 02:58 PM
  #27  
Some pictures of the general working area:

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Aug 23, 2005 | 03:01 PM
  #28  
Now shots 1 and 2 are the bolts that need replacing (which one is the question, those are the 2 different control arms). They were also taken by me lying upside down under the front bumper to shoot them.

Pictures 3 and 4 were shot from me being upside down just behind the front left tire and jack-mount point. Here you can see all the control arms.

If someone here could take my picture 2 or 3 and maybe circle red in paint which arm end bolt needs to be replaced, that would be great. Or indicate either pic 1 or 2, etc. Thanks in advance.

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Aug 23, 2005 | 03:32 PM
  #29  
Now it does elude me on where these bolts should go, since if I replace the bolts on either positions (am I even looking in the right place?), I'm still skeptical on just how these bolts are supposed to give me a small camber correction:

Here's the shots without the wheel (which took me 5 minutes and therefore why the hell did i even take the above picture?). I'll comment on these in a next post, this better be helping someone!

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Aug 23, 2005 | 03:38 PM
  #30  
Questionable...
Now in that last picture, take a look at the bolt coming out AT you (not the one in the far back, where I'm thinking these bolts should actually go). Doesn't it seem that if I replace that bolt with a correction kit (the picture of the camber bolt kit is below), it would give me lateral camber adjustment? Anyone have any thoughts? Gonna be referring people from the other forum over to here as well.

Who woulda thought replacing a bolt took so much thought huh? Haha.

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Aug 23, 2005 | 04:23 PM
  #31  
mig,
I really wish I could help you on this....

my suggestion is go back to the Dealership, and ask a friendly SA to see if they can get and print out the WIS for camber bolt installation from one of the techs. The WIS includes diagrams and pics, as well as the proper tools needed to perform these tasks.

other suggestion is to PM some of the track racers on this forum, that have take apart their suspension set ups many times over & over again.

my wife's C320 SS had the camber bolt correction thing done to her car, but it was part of her initial Service A done under warranty to correct steering pull, and free one-time pre-12K mile alignment.

Carlos

Saprissa@aol.com
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Aug 23, 2005 | 04:26 PM
  #32  
Quote: my wife's C320 SS had the camber bolt correction thing done to her car, but it was part of her initial Service A done under warranty to correct steering pull, and free one-time pre-12K mile alignment.

Carlos

Saprissa@aol.com
Exactly what i'd like, would it be possible to get a photo of the area in question of your wife's car? From there it should be obvious where I stick it in . Does anyone here have a WIS software printout they could screenshot for me? Where's nukblazi!

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Aug 23, 2005 | 04:54 PM
  #33  
Quote: Exactly what i'd like, would it be possible to get a photo of the area in question of your wife's car? From there it should be obvious where I stick it in .
she'll get home late tonight, big land sale in Utah she's closing on tonight. But, if not too late, I'll get under the car and try to take some decent pics.

Best bet is to get that WIS or play-by-play narration from one of the suspension veterans like Nuk.

Carlos

Saprissa@aol.com
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Aug 23, 2005 | 08:42 PM
  #34  
Went ahead and asked the nice people at the dealership for the WIS printout and got one. Sadly, I don't have a scanner right now or I'd be posting it. Looks relatively easy enough and it seems that the replacement bolt is for the lower control arm (as seen in the pictures above). Will start work and worklog tomorrow. TY Carlos. If you do get to the finished/installed pictures, that would be great as well.

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Update: diagram illustrates installation of the bolts below. (Don't they look very similar to the camber bolts? Never know til i dig em out!)

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Aug 23, 2005 | 10:29 PM
  #35  
Good luck in your quest for camber correction!
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Aug 24, 2005 | 12:48 AM
  #36  
This might help...

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Aug 24, 2005 | 01:49 AM
  #37  
Thanks KwiK! Quite a detailed sheet you have there. Mind my asking, where the heck did you get something like that! Dealership only provided me with the part-diagrams. That's the best schematic/walkthrough I've seen yet.

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Aug 24, 2005 | 02:13 AM
  #38  
Quote: ... Mind my asking, where the heck did you get something like that!...
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/
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Aug 24, 2005 | 02:16 AM
  #39  
Quote: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/
Awe KwiK, if you had to pay for this just to get it here, I appreciate it. I bet that startek is resourceful, but wow over 2K for a 1yr? Thanks a bunch again.

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Aug 24, 2005 | 02:17 AM
  #40  
Blake, there goes your TM, at it again!
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Aug 24, 2005 | 02:19 AM
  #41  
Quote: Blake, there goes your TM, at it again!
<--- CarLab Heir . Seriously, if he's a bit busy i'll be in the front lot waiting. . Then all you'd really have to pay for is all the food the grizzly's gonna ransack from the fridge while you wait!

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Aug 24, 2005 | 11:51 AM
  #42  
Somebody give the trunk monkey a banana... no Jose, not THAT banana!
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Aug 24, 2005 | 12:05 PM
  #43  
Hey man, bananas still aren't forms of currency, no matter what kind of monkey you are! :\. How are those tail lights B?

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Aug 24, 2005 | 12:08 PM
  #44  
Quote: Hey man, bananas still aren't forms of currency, no matter what kind of monkey you are! :\. How are those tail lights B?

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The tails are Thanks again for installing them. I got your lunch next time I'm in the bay.
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Feb 18, 2006 | 09:44 PM
  #45  
how many camber/eccentric bolts???
how many camber/eccentric bolts are needed for the front suspension?? 2 or 4??

this is needed before i can have wheel alignment performed right???
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Apr 9, 2007 | 05:11 PM
  #46  
sorry for a dumb question but what does a centric bolt look like?
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Apr 10, 2007 | 04:15 PM
  #47  
I'm going to do my allignment soon. Unfortunately, if I put the camber kit for rear, it will cause the rubbing, since the wheels are almost tucked in.
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Apr 10, 2007 | 04:17 PM
  #48  
Quote: I'm going to do my allignment soon. Unfortunately, if I put the camber kit for rear, it will cause the rubbing, since the wheels are almost tucked in.
Not necessarily. The kit should allow you to adjust camber accordingly to make it work.
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Apr 10, 2007 | 04:31 PM
  #49  
Quote: Not necessarily. The kit should allow you to adjust camber accordingly to make it work.
Blake, I'd have to disagree with you there. The only adjustment that would prevent the rear tires from rubbing is increasing negative camber which would defeat the purpose of the camber "correction" kit. Some of us are already walking the fine line. Any increase in positive camber would mean rubbing 100% of the time.
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Apr 10, 2007 | 04:37 PM
  #50  
Quote: Blake, I'd have to disagree with you there. The only adjustment that would prevent the rear tires from rubbing is increasing negative camber which would defeat the purpose of the camber "correction" kit. Some of us are already walking the fine line. Any increase in positive camber would mean rubbing 100% of the time.
Yea, I was talking about increasing the negative camber if needed to avoid rubbing
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