Modding Questions!!
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Modding Questions!!
Still a new member here's my car as of now
My future mod list is
* Tint: 15-20%
* C55 Rear spoiler (getting installed next week)
* Illuminated Door sills (getting installed next week)
* Euro impact strips
* Coilovers
* In Dash dvd/nav
* 2 JL Audio 10inch subs
* Painted Calipers
* powder coat rims
Now I had some questions about some of the mods i eventually want to get...
1. I previously had a 02 Audi 3.0 Quattro...and suprisingly (or not) my c230k is actually faster, but it does not handle as well by far....what could i get to make the handling the same as my audi if not better? Would the coilovers take care of that?
2. What kind of coilovers would you guys recommend? ANd how much are they?
3. I like the look of the CL grill, how much does that cost and where can i find it?
4. Today at the service department the guy helping me was telling me about a flat front badge that was soem kind of special edition mb one (he said something about it saying something about is saying stuttgart on it). Have any of you heard of this and have any pics or info (pricing etc?)
5. Carbon fiber hood? Ive tossed the thought of it around a little bit...Any info,pricing, links, etc on that?
just an example of the cf hood, i dunno about the rest of the car
6. Is there any kind of front cf diffuser for the w203? Or any kind of front or rear kit i could add without taking off the front end that is already there? ANyone have any links or pricing info on these?
ie: (these are extreme examples, but just so ya'll know what i mean)
7. Anyone know where i can get my calipers painted in southern california?
8. Euro impact strips! How much and where?
Thanks!
My future mod list is
* Tint: 15-20%
* C55 Rear spoiler (getting installed next week)
* Illuminated Door sills (getting installed next week)
* Euro impact strips
* Coilovers
* In Dash dvd/nav
* 2 JL Audio 10inch subs
* Painted Calipers
* powder coat rims
Now I had some questions about some of the mods i eventually want to get...
1. I previously had a 02 Audi 3.0 Quattro...and suprisingly (or not) my c230k is actually faster, but it does not handle as well by far....what could i get to make the handling the same as my audi if not better? Would the coilovers take care of that?
2. What kind of coilovers would you guys recommend? ANd how much are they?
3. I like the look of the CL grill, how much does that cost and where can i find it?
4. Today at the service department the guy helping me was telling me about a flat front badge that was soem kind of special edition mb one (he said something about it saying something about is saying stuttgart on it). Have any of you heard of this and have any pics or info (pricing etc?)
5. Carbon fiber hood? Ive tossed the thought of it around a little bit...Any info,pricing, links, etc on that?
just an example of the cf hood, i dunno about the rest of the car
6. Is there any kind of front cf diffuser for the w203? Or any kind of front or rear kit i could add without taking off the front end that is already there? ANyone have any links or pricing info on these?
ie: (these are extreme examples, but just so ya'll know what i mean)
7. Anyone know where i can get my calipers painted in southern california?
8. Euro impact strips! How much and where?
Thanks!
Last edited by e. Love; 10-07-2005 at 03:14 PM.
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Welcome!
Where did you get the wheels from? Did you need to use spacers? (I'm in So. Cal. too, so hopefully I can find a place.)
Neal in the C32 forum is working on the CF front diffuser and should hopefully have it available soon...
As for the CF hood, Cappa has one for the w203 and is selling it.
Where did you get the wheels from? Did you need to use spacers? (I'm in So. Cal. too, so hopefully I can find a place.)
Neal in the C32 forum is working on the CF front diffuser and should hopefully have it available soon...
As for the CF hood, Cappa has one for the w203 and is selling it.
Last edited by nlpamg; 10-07-2005 at 03:13 PM.
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
Welcome!
Where did you get the wheels from? Did you need to use spacers? (I'm in So. Cal. too, so hopefully I can find a place.)
Neal in the C32 forum is working on the CF front diffuser and should hopefully have it available soon...
As for the CF hood, Cappa has one for the w203 and is selling it.
Where did you get the wheels from? Did you need to use spacers? (I'm in So. Cal. too, so hopefully I can find a place.)
Neal in the C32 forum is working on the CF front diffuser and should hopefully have it available soon...
As for the CF hood, Cappa has one for the w203 and is selling it.
So someone is making a diffuser like that? Any links to this?
Cappa? THe company or is that a person?
Last edited by e. Love; 10-07-2005 at 03:20 PM.
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Originally Posted by e. Love
I just got them from the dealer (caliber motors). No spacers, but now that i look closely they almost rub sometimes so i need to get that checked out
So someone is making a diffuser like that? Any links to this?
Cappa? THe company or is that a person?
So someone is making a diffuser like that? Any links to this?
Cappa? THe company or is that a person?
Also, I don't have the link, but BlackC230Coupe is Neal's SN and there is a post on it in the C32/C55 forum...
I thought there wouldn't be any rubbing problems with 18's... weird. I guess I'll have to find out who supplies Caliber. Thanks!
Last edited by nlpamg; 10-07-2005 at 03:33 PM.
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Originally Posted by e. Love
I just got them from the dealer (caliber motors). No spacers, but now that i look closely they almost rub sometimes so i need to get that checked out
So someone is making a diffuser like that? Any links to this?
Cappa? THe company or is that a person?
So someone is making a diffuser like that? Any links to this?
Cappa? THe company or is that a person?
you really need to search the MBWorld forum for all of your questions.
They have all been discussed at length many times before, and rather than have everything repeated here once again, you can search, and then post questions on those items, which have not been posted on.
for example, like nlpamg said, check out the C32 forum here,
and do a search for diffuser.
Look up Cappa26 or search for CF hood, and you can PM here, and set up a deal.
Also, look at the stickys at the top of the W203 forum. Many answer most of the suspension and modding questions you ask. Exhaust your resources, starting here on MBWorld, and branching out into this thing called the WWW.
Then, if your question is too specific and not answered, you can ask, and most of us are more than happy to help.
one more hint, for CL-Style Grill, search: ForMyMercedes
have fun !
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also,
since your in SoCal,
another great place to learn, and see first hand many of the mods available to the W203, are the regular MB / AMG meets we have set up.
This coming Saturday October 15th, there will be a huge MB/AMG meet in Irvine, CA at Tia Juana's Bar & Grill. As well as the SoCal regulars who attend this event, there will be many MB tuners such as EVOSPORT, HoP, and HPS to help you decide what's best for your car. You can see all the different styles and customizations that people have done to their W203's and ask questions directly to the owners. This is the #1 way to learn and get ideas for your car. These are the events you don't want to miss.
Plus there will be a bunch of give-aways, via FREE raffle, so sign up today, if you haven't already.
Carlos
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since your in SoCal,
another great place to learn, and see first hand many of the mods available to the W203, are the regular MB / AMG meets we have set up.
This coming Saturday October 15th, there will be a huge MB/AMG meet in Irvine, CA at Tia Juana's Bar & Grill. As well as the SoCal regulars who attend this event, there will be many MB tuners such as EVOSPORT, HoP, and HPS to help you decide what's best for your car. You can see all the different styles and customizations that people have done to their W203's and ask questions directly to the owners. This is the #1 way to learn and get ideas for your car. These are the events you don't want to miss.
Plus there will be a bunch of give-aways, via FREE raffle, so sign up today, if you haven't already.
Carlos
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
also,
since your in SoCal,
another great place to learn, and see first hand many of the mods available to the W203, are the regular MB / AMG meets we have set up.
This coming Saturday October 15th, there will be a huge MB/AMG meet in Irvine, CA at Tia Juana's Bar & Grill. As well as the SoCal regulars who attend this event, there will be many MB tuners such as EVOSPORT, HoP, and HPS to help you decide what's best for your car. You can see all the different styles and customizations that people have done to their W203's and ask questions directly to the owners. This is the #1 way to learn and get ideas for your car. These are the events you don't want to miss.
Plus there will be a bunch of give-aways, via FREE raffle, so sign up today, if you haven't already.
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
since your in SoCal,
another great place to learn, and see first hand many of the mods available to the W203, are the regular MB / AMG meets we have set up.
This coming Saturday October 15th, there will be a huge MB/AMG meet in Irvine, CA at Tia Juana's Bar & Grill. As well as the SoCal regulars who attend this event, there will be many MB tuners such as EVOSPORT, HoP, and HPS to help you decide what's best for your car. You can see all the different styles and customizations that people have done to their W203's and ask questions directly to the owners. This is the #1 way to learn and get ideas for your car. These are the events you don't want to miss.
Plus there will be a bunch of give-aways, via FREE raffle, so sign up today, if you haven't already.
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
-Phil
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Originally Posted by e. Love
1. what could i get to make the handling the same as my audi if not better? Would the coilovers take care of that?
Coilovers would take care of some of it. You can also add stronger/wider SWAY BARS (plenty of choices)
2. What kind of coilovers would you guys recommend? ANd how much are they?
H&R, TEIN, CARLSSON, etc... from relatively cheap to super expensive.
It all depends on your budget and what level of performance you want.
3. I like the look of the CL grill, how much does that cost and where can i find it?
ForMyMercedes.com
4. Today at the service department the guy helping me was telling me about a flat front badge that was soem kind of special edition mb one (he said something about it saying something about is saying stuttgart on it). Have any of you heard of this and have any pics or info (pricing etc?)
Go back to the service dept and ask to see it or more info. Haven't heard or seen one with "STUTTGART" on it.
5. Carbon fiber hood? Ive tossed the thought of it around a little bit...Any info,pricing, links, etc on that? Search for CF Hood / PM Cappa26
6. Is there any kind of front cf diffuser for the w203? Or any kind of front or rear kit i could add without taking off the front end that is already there? ANyone have any links or pricing info on these?
See C32/C55 forum / search for diffuser thread.
7. Anyone know where i can get my calipers painted in southern california?
There are many SoCal shops that do this. Search the forum, for experiences from those who have had that done already.
8. Euro impact strips! How much and where?
Steve (MBenzNL) www.mbenznl.com
Coilovers would take care of some of it. You can also add stronger/wider SWAY BARS (plenty of choices)
2. What kind of coilovers would you guys recommend? ANd how much are they?
H&R, TEIN, CARLSSON, etc... from relatively cheap to super expensive.
It all depends on your budget and what level of performance you want.
3. I like the look of the CL grill, how much does that cost and where can i find it?
ForMyMercedes.com
4. Today at the service department the guy helping me was telling me about a flat front badge that was soem kind of special edition mb one (he said something about it saying something about is saying stuttgart on it). Have any of you heard of this and have any pics or info (pricing etc?)
Go back to the service dept and ask to see it or more info. Haven't heard or seen one with "STUTTGART" on it.
5. Carbon fiber hood? Ive tossed the thought of it around a little bit...Any info,pricing, links, etc on that? Search for CF Hood / PM Cappa26
6. Is there any kind of front cf diffuser for the w203? Or any kind of front or rear kit i could add without taking off the front end that is already there? ANyone have any links or pricing info on these?
See C32/C55 forum / search for diffuser thread.
7. Anyone know where i can get my calipers painted in southern california?
There are many SoCal shops that do this. Search the forum, for experiences from those who have had that done already.
8. Euro impact strips! How much and where?
Steve (MBenzNL) www.mbenznl.com
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
ARG!!!! I wish I could go to this one Carlos! But dammit, I have a complaint and a memo due on Monday... I don't think I can make it out although it would have been really fun!
-Phil
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Also besides the 80 or so people who have signed up already (1983-2006 MB models) we are expecting another 20 or so with 1950-1980 MB models.
We are raffling off a bunch of goodies, including:
- 1 night stay & dinner for 2 at PECHANGA resort & casino
- 2 FREE Personal Trainer Sessions with pro Physical Trainer in Newport Beach
- MBWorld apparel
- 2 FREE Dyno-Runs at House of Power
- 1 bucket of Meguiar's car-care products
- EuropeanPlates.com items
+ more.....
Tia Juana's Bar & Grill is opening up their patio for us, so we can eat/drink and have a complete view of all the cars in the parking lot.
Having a professional photo-shoot.
Running a Canyon Cruise (for AMG speedsters, and more scenic for the slower crowd).
Great event overall !!
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
ARG!!!! I wish I could go to this one Carlos! But dammit, I have a complaint and a memo due on Monday... I don't think I can make it out although it would have been really fun!
-Phil
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Hey man, if you change your mind, you can always hitch a ride with me. You're in Torrance, so I could easily swing by and swoop you up.
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Phil! WTF? Work can wait! Seriously, is it gonna take you that long to take care of stuff for Monday? You'll have all Sunday to do that...LOL...j/k...Take care of the important stuff first.
Hey man, if you change your mind, you can always hitch a ride with me. You're in Torrance, so I could easily swing by and swoop you up.
Hey man, if you change your mind, you can always hitch a ride with me. You're in Torrance, so I could easily swing by and swoop you up.
LOL, I just realized something! It's not this Saturday, it's NEXT Saturday the 15th! Damn, I guess I'm out of it today... ****, sounds like it'll be good, now it looks like I'll be able to attend... SWEET!
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PM'd you about the hood, thanks guys for referring this guy to me
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
Thanks dude!
LOL, I just realized something! It's not this Saturday, it's NEXT Saturday the 15th! Damn, I guess I'm out of it today... ****, sounds like it'll be good, now it looks like I'll be able to attend... SWEET!
LOL, I just realized something! It's not this Saturday, it's NEXT Saturday the 15th! Damn, I guess I'm out of it today... ****, sounds like it'll be good, now it looks like I'll be able to attend... SWEET!
that is awesome !! Make sure you sign up on the list.
This is going to be great !!!
Also, if you guys can, make sure you make up a vertical 5x8 card, and include:
- your MBWorld Screen-Name
- color photo of your car
- your first name (optional)
I will be handing out Card Holders with Lanyards to wear during the meet. (rock concert style).
Look for them when you check in at the RAFFLE Booth.
Drex, my wife (ZQ) will be working the RAFFLE Booth, so make sure to say HI !
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
Phil !
that is awesome !! Make sure you sign up on the list.
This is going to be great !!!
Also, if you guys can, make sure you make up a vertical 5x8 card, and include:
- your MBWorld Screen-Name
- color photo of your car
- your first name (optional)
I will be handing out Card Holders with Lanyards to wear during the meet. (rock concert style).
Look for them when you check in at the RAFFLE Booth.
Drex, my wife (ZQ) will be working the RAFFLE Booth, so make sure to say HI !
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
Sign up to attend the:
Orange County MB & AMG Meet in Irvine, CA - October 15th !
that is awesome !! Make sure you sign up on the list.
This is going to be great !!!
Also, if you guys can, make sure you make up a vertical 5x8 card, and include:
- your MBWorld Screen-Name
- color photo of your car
- your first name (optional)
I will be handing out Card Holders with Lanyards to wear during the meet. (rock concert style).
Look for them when you check in at the RAFFLE Booth.
Drex, my wife (ZQ) will be working the RAFFLE Booth, so make sure to say HI !
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
Sign up to attend the:
Orange County MB & AMG Meet in Irvine, CA - October 15th !
Zulma's gonna be working the raffle booth? Hey man, I better not hear 'bout you winning some crazy prize or I'm gonna yell "FIX"...lol...
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Carlos, good thing you put the info. bout the lanyard. I would've totally forgot to make the notecard!...LOL
Zulma's gonna be working the raffle booth? Hey man, I better not hear 'bout you winning some crazy prize or I'm gonna yell "FIX"...lol...
Zulma's gonna be working the raffle booth? Hey man, I better not hear 'bout you winning some crazy prize or I'm gonna yell "FIX"...lol...
well, i better NOT win the MBWorld thong panties !!!
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Sorry e, Love. Got side tracked there for a second. Welcome to the boards! Car looks great. Now it's all downhill (money-wise) for all the mods. Good luck with all your aspirations modding the car. And keep everybody posted on your stuff.
Now I had some questions about some of the mods i eventually want to get...
1. I previously had a 02 Audi 3.0 Quattro...and suprisingly (or not) my c230k is actually faster, but it does not handle as well by far....what could i get to make the handling the same as my audi if not better? Would the coilovers take care of that?
Check out the 2 suspension threads at the top of the w203 forum. It's in the Aftermarket Modifications / DIY thread
Again, you can take a look at the 2 suspension threads above, do a search for "aftermarket suspension", "springs", "shocks", etc...Suspension has been discussed so many times on the boards that you should be prepared to READ A LOT. Just to give you the basics, TEIN has the best "bang-for-the-buck" with their coilovers and prices. There is a member on here who did initial R&D for the 320/240 sedans and I completed R&D for the 230 K SS. The prices are listed on their website, but there are a few sponsors and contacts on this board that I'm sure can help you out if you decide to go that route. Also, you can consider the KW V2's or the Bilstein PSS-9's. Both coilovers and around the same price as TEIN Super Streets (depending on what kind of deal you get). This isn't as simple as "get this and you'll be happy". It all depends on several factors (also been discussed on certain suspension threads
formymercedes.com. This has also been discussed several times on the boards. Search for CL grille and I'm sure you'll turn up quite a few hits. Just make sure to search in the w203 forums.
Lots of people have flat hood emblems on here. Whether it says Stuttgart, not sure 'bout that. Search would probably turn up some good hits
I guess Cappa already helped on this one. VIS makes them, don't they?
Lots of add-on lips available, but no real diffusers like shown. Kleeman has a front lip that is really nice (and really pricey), but it only fits on sport models or AMG. i.e., no 2004.5 or prior models. Only 2005 and up
Lots of shops can do it. In fact, this can be a DIY (Do It Yourself), but if you're not real mod-savvy, take it to a body shop. There is a shop in El Monte that is good called Auto Werks. Or you could go the expensive route with 20/20 or Wet Works Garage
MBenzNL (aka Steve). Do a search for his name "MBenzNL" and you'll find it. Gotta ask him for pricing.
Thanks! [/QUOTE]
Originally Posted by e. Love
Now I had some questions about some of the mods i eventually want to get...
1. I previously had a 02 Audi 3.0 Quattro...and suprisingly (or not) my c230k is actually faster, but it does not handle as well by far....what could i get to make the handling the same as my audi if not better? Would the coilovers take care of that?
Originally Posted by e. Love
2. What kind of coilovers would you guys recommend? ANd how much are they?
Originally Posted by e. Love
3. I like the look of the CL grill, how much does that cost and where can i find it?
Originally Posted by e. Love
4. Today at the service department the guy helping me was telling me about a flat front badge that was soem kind of special edition mb one (he said something about it saying something about is saying stuttgart on it). Have any of you heard of this and have any pics or info (pricing etc?)
Originally Posted by e. Love
5. Carbon fiber hood? Ive tossed the thought of it around a little bit...Any info,pricing, links, etc on that?
just an example of the cf hood, i dunno about the rest of the car
just an example of the cf hood, i dunno about the rest of the car
I guess Cappa already helped on this one. VIS makes them, don't they?
Originally Posted by e. Love
6. Is there any kind of front cf diffuser for the w203? Or any kind of front or rear kit i could add without taking off the front end that is already there? ANyone have any links or pricing info on these?
ie: (these are extreme examples, but just so ya'll know what i mean)
ie: (these are extreme examples, but just so ya'll know what i mean)
Lots of add-on lips available, but no real diffusers like shown. Kleeman has a front lip that is really nice (and really pricey), but it only fits on sport models or AMG. i.e., no 2004.5 or prior models. Only 2005 and up
Originally Posted by e. Love
7. Anyone know where i can get my calipers painted in southern california?
Originally Posted by e. Love
8. Euro impact strips! How much and where?
Thanks! [/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Again, you can take a look at the 2 suspension threads above, do a search for "aftermarket suspension", "springs", "shocks", etc...Suspension has been discussed so many times on the boards that you should be prepared to READ A LOT. Just to give you the basics, TEIN has the best "bang-for-the-buck" with their coilovers and prices. There is a member on here who did initial R&D for the 320/240 sedans and I completed R&D for the 230 K SS. The prices are listed on their website, but there are a few sponsors and contacts on this board that I'm sure can help you out if you decide to go that route. Also, you can consider the KW V2's or the Bilstein PSS-9's. Both coilovers and around the same price as TEIN Super Streets (depending on what kind of deal you get). This isn't as simple as "get this and you'll be happy". It all depends on several factors (also been discussed on certain suspension threads
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hmm... I wonder who that "member" is...
That's how I ended up doing R&D.
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Phil, just did a quick search. His name is Nefarious. Doesn't post much on here, but he's the first one to do R&D a while back. I just went a little more "pro-active" cuz I was so anxious to upgrade the suspension. My initial inquiries were based on Nefarious doing R&D and whether they would be available for the 230's as well.
That's how I ended up doing R&D.
That's how I ended up doing R&D.
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oh, my bad, I thought you were that member. I remember all your tien R&D posts. all g!
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1959 220S / 1979 230 G / 2002 A210 AMG / 2003 C320 SC / 2004.5 C320 SS / 2005 ML350 SE / 2008 smart
Originally Posted by e. Love
thanks guys!
haha please forgive me, im lazy when it comes to searching!
Ill be at the meet for sure!
haha please forgive me, im lazy when it comes to searching!
Ill be at the meet for sure!
cool, I'll add you on to the list !
Carlos
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