230

Should the coupe stock be able to beat a stock GTI VR6? Cause we (my brother) are about the same drivers skill wise and I got smoked off the line.

My coupe is a 2002 and the VR6 is a 2001.

revstriker

Interesting. The GTI is about 300 pounds lighter than the Coupe, but has 200 HP compared to 192 in the stock coupe. The coupe beats the GTI in Torque though with 200 lbs compared to 195lbs, and the GTI is FWD compared to the RWD Coupe.

What does everyone think?

--My info on the GTI is from a 2002 though...

tommy

The VR6 # for a '01 is 174. So they're both at around .058 hp/lb, so they should be pretty comparable. Though the torque for the vw is 181.

I think that it should come down to driver reflexes and skill. So looks like bro has the edge there! Might want to switch cars and see what happens. If he still wins, then you should bow down to your better.

230

Hmmm.. good point, but only one problem. I would never downgrade to drivng a VW. I'll stick with my Benz till I get a pully then we'll see who better.

tommy

Well, since he's the one who's beating you, I'd say it's the other way around. At least, until one of his window regulators breaks down.

If you get a mod, won't he just get one also? It'd be a fun war, though. Just remember that he has $7-10k to play with, if we're going to do apples to apples with the two cars.

230

Yeah I know, Sh**. Hey, at least he cant look as good as me

BlackC230Coupe

Unfortinitly the VR6 will kill u. I forgot the 1/4 mile but its in the 14's.

Buellwinkle

Time for a pulley upgrade! 227 HP and 246 ft-lbs of torque. Smoke him!

Boo2

It's just too bad that for about $3,500 - $4,000 the GTI can get a Turbo kit that will give it almost 400hp. We had one of those back in my ricer days. VW's are well built cars with extremely solid manual transmissions. It's no wonder why i've heard it been called "the poor-mans Porsche!"

preyx

Although the Coupe is a fairly solid competitor against similar cars in its class, it is unfortunately not at the top when it comes to racing. But racing is not what the Coupe's all about, right?

Even if we may lose to a few cars along the way, we still have the dignity of being Benz drivers in the end.

Boo2

Well, in this forum that is a highly debatable statement.

tommy

Ask my poor NJ Nets if there's any dignity in losing. It's overrated.

TimmyC230boy

well if your bro gets one of the new VW Golf R32's you could put a pulley, intake ECU and exhaust on it and you still wouldnt touch him.

It has a six speed, 241 HP, AWD with wide 18 inch tires. I say give it 2 months awfter its release in the states and tuners will have it making 280+. Too bad it doesnt have a turbo If it had a turbo I would very seriously consider slling the coupe for the VW

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...highlight=fast

Boo2

That's true, but it's not even in the same class as the coupe, being that it is around $38k. This is going to compete against G35 coupes and the Nissan 350Z. With quality German engineering, you'd be crazy to choose the G35 or 350Z!!

TimmyC230boy

yup that R32 is going to be a nice little car. it has claimed 0-60 times of 6.2 so with a fer mods it will run 0-60 in the 5's

viper

Yes but its still a VW. The styling of the G35 and 350Z are much nicer than the R32.

Boo2

Well, I hold VW in the same tranch as Infiniti/Nissan - especially upon the release of the Phaeton. As far as styling, I will give you that since it is a matter of preference. The hatchback styling would probably compare it more to the C230, with performance not too far behind the G35/350Z.

trench

Saw a 350Z in LA over the weekend. Not a bad lookin' car.

Cheers, BT