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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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I have been to two places and they refuse to install the alarm in the Benz. Any ideas? Thanx
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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I have been to two places and they refuse to install the alarm in the Benz. Any ideas? Thanx
First, how 'bout putting what MY (Model Year) and type of car you have, so that everybody can understand what version you have.

2nd, why would you want to install an aftermarket alarm? Depending on whether you have a coupe or a sedan, I'd say just purchase the IMS (Internal Motion Sensor), have that installed, have Steve activate it when he's in your area and it will be just as useful as an aftermarket alarm.

Here's a link of Sunman's thread about the IMS.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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The alarm places told me that they can't do any alarm system on my car when I first purchased my car so I decided not to get anything since I think the benz seems too tuff to steal unless someone is going to take the whole car by towing.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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Well if its a Key then ya any1 can just jump in! but if its smart key THEN theres a whole diffrent story!
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:49 AM
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Since we are on the topic, how much security does the MB alarm provide? Is there a kill switch, I thinking since the key is a laser/chip key then it would probably be pretty tough to steal
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 02:29 AM
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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My apologies. I have an 06 c230 sedan. I am not worried about the car being stolen. These cars are not big targets for theft. I am more concerned with breaking into the car, messing with the car etc. I want something with a paging system so i know what is going on w/ the car. Any ideas? Thanx !
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by eunosracr
My apologies. I have an 06 c230 sedan. I am not worried about the car being stolen. These cars are not big targets for theft. I am more concerned with breaking into the car, messing with the car etc. I want something with a paging system so i know what is going on w/ the car. Any ideas? Thanx !
Hmmm...that's interesting. Well, the IMS will take care of anybody trying to break into the car, but as far as a paging system is concerned, I don't think that's available through the stock system.

Maybe an alarm shop could figure out a way to tap into the IMS that will trigger a separate alert remote?...I really don't know, just talking out of my butt cuz I don't really know too much of how the IMS is setup/wired to the alarm.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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When i went to get a keyless engine start and a alarm system they said they couldnt do it cause mercedes use laser cut keys so they would need the code stuff from the laser key that it sends out or something.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by razorfish228
The alarm places told me that they can't do any alarm system on my car when I first purchased my car so I decided not to get anything since I think the benz seems too tuff to steal unless someone is going to take the whole car by towing.
Rule #1: Nothing is ever too "hard" to steal. It's all proportionate to demand for your car. I had a friend years ago who had a GSR and even with best alarms his interior was stripped many times over, due to high demand for the parts. Professional thieves are just as tech savy as we like to think we are
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by electromethod
Rule #1: Nothing is ever too "hard" to steal. It's all proportionate to demand for your car. I had a friend years ago who had a GSR and even with best alarms his interior was stripped many times over, due to high demand for the parts. Professional thieves are just as tech savy as we like to think we are
I have never heard of a c230 stolen. I have heard of over 10 gsrs stolen. That is simply because of the mass appeal of the gsr engine and their interiors by all the ricer kids dropping these parts into their interiors. I plan on getting the clifford but the problem I am having is alarm shops refusing to mess with the Benz because it is a Mercedes and because it is too new. They all keep giving me a **** and bull story about the car being too new yada yada yada.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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Well, if you read my post closely, I already stated that it is because of HIGH DEMAND for parts. If they want your WHOLE car, they will take the DAMN thing, but 230K isn't exactly a car on the hott list so that's not a concern to me. I have seen and heard of plenty of people getting their cars broken into and parts taken (MB and non MB). Many people on this board have posted about it... VIK for example had his headrests taken out of his ML.... a while back, sorry to bring up bad memories pal.....
I have had my cars broken into many many times over the years, **** luck and a result of displaying at car shows.... I have alarms, not to prevent theft but to prevent vandalism.... that's it. I don't delude myself into feeling secure with an alarm.
Quite frankly, I am doubtful that you are going to a "reputable" install shop. Ask to see the install shops portfolio, etc. It's also proportionate to how much $ you are willing to spend for the install. It would help if you posted your location as well so maybe some members here could steer you in the right direction. If all else fails, contact the manufacturer of the alarm. Best of luck....
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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What are you going to do if your car pages you that someone is messing with it enough to trigger the alarm and you actually get to it in time to catch them in the act? Exchange bullets over a broken window or missing seat and either die or go to jail? Or challenge some crack head to a fight? Just curious why you want to be paged and what you think you will do.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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Some people would risk their lives by getting into a confrontation over their property. Wasn't there a guy on vwvortex or nasioc that caught some thug spray painting his car? If i remember the thug got his a$$ beat badly..... Anyhow, there was a guy I used to ride with about 9 years ago in college that had the paging system for his truck. It was a slammed truck with hydraulics etc.... sweet vehicle .... his alarm system would page him and give him options of locking doors and powering up windows while he contacted authorities...... I always thought those options were more for show than practicality. I had another friend who just had a plain paging one he got because thugs were repeatedly vandalizing his car. Me, I coulnd't care about vandalism...... my life is more valuable. :p :p
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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What are you going to do if your car pages you that someone is messing with it enough to trigger the alarm and you actually get to it in time to catch them in the act? Exchange bullets over a broken window or missing seat and either die or go to jail? Or challenge some crack head to a fight? Just curious why you want to be paged and what you think you will do.
I am in Miami Fl and yes I have been in this situatin before. I had this happen to my s2000. You guys may or may not know but s2000 seats are in high demand. These fools slash your top and try to steal your seats. I had just gotten home and was watching tv. To make a long story short the pager went off.I went outside with my gun. They were in the process of taking off my car cover which triggered the proximity sensor setting off the pager. I ran outside and held the guy at gunpoint while i called the cops, his friends left him there. Cops showed up 10 minutes later. So yes I will go outside and protect my property. I am not afraid to fight nor am I afraid to take somebody on who is messing with my car. I am not dumb nor will I go outside without my gun.

The first time this kind of thing happened I was woken up in the middle of the night by the pager. Again they were taking off the car cover. They were trying to get my HRE's. This is before I had bought my gun so I went outside barefisted. It was only one guy and we got into it. At that time i was living at home and my parents heard the scuffle and called the cops. My brothers came out and we beat the snot out of the kid. Cops showed up 10 minutes later and took him away. Then the kid tried to sue me for his injuries and use of excessive force. Needless to say that didnt go far. The kid got a year in jail because he had priors.

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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Well, if you read my post closely, I already stated that it is because of HIGH DEMAND for parts. If they want your WHOLE car, they will take the DAMN thing, but 230K isn't exactly a car on the hott list so that's not a concern to me. I have seen and heard of plenty of people getting their cars broken into and parts taken (MB and non MB). Many people on this board have posted about it... VIK for example had his headrests taken out of his ML.... a while back, sorry to bring up bad memories pal.....
I have had my cars broken into many many times over the years, **** luck and a result of displaying at car shows.... I have alarms, not to prevent theft but to prevent vandalism.... that's it. I don't delude myself into feeling secure with an alarm.
Quite frankly, I am doubtful that you are going to a "reputable" install shop. Ask to see the install shops portfolio, etc. It's also proportionate to how much $ you are willing to spend for the install. It would help if you posted your location as well so maybe some members here could steer you in the right direction. If all else fails, contact the manufacturer of the alarm. Best of luck....
I dont have a problem paying for the install. The problem i am encountering is all the shops are saying that none of them have the schematics for the 06 yet.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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im with drex, get IMS and call it a day. im getting mine installed in 2 weeks!
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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Teleaid does it all for you. They will call you if your alarm goes off.

I also understand that the standard key with 2005 and 2006's are nearly impossible to duplicate. The code changes everytime. It would be nearly impossible to steal the car.

Can anyone confirm this?
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 12:12 AM
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doesnt the pre 05 have rolling code? i thought so, i may be wrong.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 01:45 AM
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Teleaid does it all for you. They will call you if your alarm goes off.

I also understand that the standard key with 2005 and 2006's are nearly impossible to duplicate. The code changes everytime. It would be nearly impossible to steal the car.

Can anyone confirm this?
That is true. Even if a thief were to clone your key, it would not work unless it was set as an additional key in the cars computer. A dental student could make a casting of the metal key, but it would only let them in the car and the glove box.

You do not need to drive a car away. Miss a payment, and watch your car dissappear.

If your car was not taken by the finance company, a Lojack transponder can help the police find your car. Let them deal with the crooks, as they have guns and everything.

I have heard, but can't confirm that there is a 'workshop key" that plugs into the jack under the steering wheel. It is said to jump on the CAN bus and start the car. Again, I have not confirmed this.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 02:44 AM
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I have been to two places and they refuse to install the alarm in the Benz. Any ideas? Thanx
Where in Miami dude?

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Where in Miami dude?

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