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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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FS Kleeman Pulley kit

From my 02 C230K. We might be getting another car so we don't need this any longer. It's been on the car for about two months. Includes Crank pulley, alt pulley and belt. Pretty easy install that you can do in your driveway with basic tools.

HUGE difference in power.

$700 OBO.

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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700 bucks?! Wow!
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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do these fit the 05 c230....will they do anything to the warrenty considering i have a lease car
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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why would ppl buy that for 700, when you can get a full pulley from ASP, for 650 new, plus you can return you stock pulley and get 300 back from ASP?

I don't care how much it was new.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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Well first of all you get the belt and alt pulley with it. (I was under the impression you only got the pulley from ASP). Second of off you don't have to take the stock pulley of to install this which makes it cake to install/uninstall if you have to take it in for service.

The dealership saw the pulley and didn't say anything about it because "We've delt with Kleeman cars before". The service manager also said the only way it would effect a warranty claim is if the supercharger went bad or their was engine damage due to detonation/lack of proper fuel.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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do these fit the 05 c230....will they do anything to the warrenty considering i have a lease car
I don't know for sure. Measure your crank pulley's outside diamerter and I'll tell you.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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Don't you need to have an upgraded ECU for this to help? (ignorance speaking here)..
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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I don't know for sure. Measure your crank pulley's outside diamerter and I'll tell you.
No it will not work on a 05 W203 as it is an M271 engine. That kit is for the M111.

There is no way you will sell that boost kit for that price especially where there are better alternatives around and Kleemann itself will sell that same kit second hand for less than $400. I have this kit and only bought it because it was $300 and that was with a new alternator pulley and belt.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Don't you need to have an upgraded ECU for this to help? (ignorance speaking here)..
No. There's plenty of fuel there to support the extra boost.



Also it's best offer. I'll post it again for those who can't read.

$700 OBO.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Well, the belt is like $15, and the welded and balanced ASP pulley is far more sturdy in construction than the ring attached with screws. Since I can get a New ASP one for 350 after core exchange, and I can get a pulley install done for 50, I'd rather go with the better constructed, new pulley and have enough money left over for 7 pulley installs, if I ever need to go back to stock.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jhandel
Don't you need to have an upgraded ECU for this to help? (ignorance speaking here)..
You don't need the ECU upgrade for it to help, in fact, for the M111 with pulley, there is no significant gain with the ECU upgrade, especially, not for the price of the upgrade.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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damn....i would have gotten this if it fit my engine
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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So DACHIGGA you are actually suggesting that a pulley upgrade is worth more than an ECU upgrade? (I'm a noob here so I appologise for my ignorance).

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jhandel
So DACHIGGA you are actually suggesting that a pulley upgrade is worth more than an ECU upgrade? (I'm a noob here so I appologise for my ignorance).

Josh Handel
This all depends on the car, as far as the M111 (2.3L) it is far more economical to get the pulley because the gain is alot more than the chip.

For the M271 (1.8L) it is probably better to get an ECU upgrade than the pulley as there are only a few companies that make a pulley and the ECU gives you a fair amount of power.

And if we include the new B200 Turbo into this conversation, it is awesome just to get the chip as you will be already pushing 225HP.

So it al depends on which car you have.

In conclusion, 2.3 get hte pulley, 1.8 get the ECU.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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That completely went over my head that the engines are different oh well i dont have the money to get my sub installed let alone pulleys and ECU upgrades
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JeT

There is no way you will sell that boost kit for that price especially where there are better alternatives around and Kleemann itself will sell that same kit second hand for less than $400. I have this kit and only bought it because it was $300 and that was with a new alternator pulley and belt.
were did u get this kit ur talking about ? sorry im new website ?
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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were did u get this kit ur talking about ? sorry im new website ?
Bought it from a member on MBKlasse who never installed it on his car. He purchased it from KleemannUSA second hand.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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thanks man ! big different in power ?
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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thanks man ! big different in power ?
I haven't got a dyno to show you but it certainly is quite noticeable. Note that this kit and others like it are only for the M111. Your engine is an M271. Kleemann had a kit for the M271 with k-box but they stopped selling it in the US. Apparently there are only 5 of these kits in the US if you believe the talk on this forum.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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thanks man ! big different in power ?
Yes, ~ 40hp at the crank. The car really comes alive with the extra boost.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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i went to their website and did not find it. they don't have prices on anything either.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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I haven't got a dyno to show you but it certainly is quite noticeable. Note that this kit and others like it are only for the M111. Your engine is an M271. Kleemann had a kit for the M271 with k-box but they stopped selling it in the US. Apparently there are only 5 of these kits in the US if you believe the talk on this forum.
The Kit for the M271 appears to have been a massive failure. Its really expensive, and the gains are pretty slight...one member at MBKlass reported his stock 6speed C230 M271 was still slightly quicker than a Kleemanized Automatic C230 M271.

There really isn't much in the way of headroom on the M271, its running 11psi, and conventional wisdom is that an M45 is only good for 12psi... you do the math. Additionally, the M271 uses the same intercooler, and basically the same supercharger as the M11. On the M111 going higher in boost than the 10psi that the standard size overboost pulley provides results in limited additional HP because of the added heat. If I had an M271, I'd look to replace the intercooler, and the supercharger with a more efficient unit.

There's supposedly a variant of this engine without the supercharger, its used in the C160, this M271 makes a rather pathetic 120HP...so the supercharger is going to have to do a lot of work.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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Well first of all you get the belt and alt pulley with it. (I was under the impression you only got the pulley from ASP). Second of off you don't have to take the stock pulley of to install this which makes it cake to install/uninstall if you have to take it in for service.

The dealership saw the pulley and didn't say anything about it because "We've delt with Kleeman cars before". The service manager also said the only way it would effect a warranty claim is if the supercharger went bad or their was engine damage due to detonation/lack of proper fuel.
The ASP comes with a belt if you ask for it. Removing the pulley is easy.
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The Kit for the M271 appears to have been a massive failure. Its really expensive, and the gains are pretty slight...one member at MBKlass reported his stock 6speed C230 M271 was still slightly quicker than a Kleemanized Automatic C230 M271.

There really isn't much in the way of headroom on the M271, its running 11psi, and conventional wisdom is that an M45 is only good for 12psi... you do the math. Additionally, the M271 uses the same intercooler, and basically the same supercharger as the M11. On the M111 going higher in boost than the 10psi that the standard size overboost pulley provides results in limited additional HP because of the added heat. If I had an M271, I'd look to replace the intercooler, and the supercharger with a more efficient unit.

There's supposedly a variant of this engine without the supercharger, its used in the C160, this M271 makes a rather pathetic 120HP...so the supercharger is going to have to do a lot of work.
so you are saying there really wont ever be a pulley upgrade for a m271 as efficient as the one for the m111.
m271 needs some increased hp badly, someone has to be working on something!
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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so you are saying there really wont ever be a pulley upgrade for a m271 as efficient as the one for the m111.
m271 needs some increased hp badly, someone has to be working on something!
Yes!
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