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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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c230_617 what is that; i just had a question and i was wondering if it was worth the time and money to upgrade to a super or turbo
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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c230_617 what is that; i just had a question and i was wondering if it was worth the time and money to upgrade to a super or turbo
Yea, it's him..
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Yea, it's him..
no *****. dead give away!
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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ok what r u guy's talking about please let me know im new the forum
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by m-benzw203
ok what r u guy's talking about please let me know im new the forum
they think you're a troll-reincarnate. :v
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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I'd jump on this too, Phil, but not enough new threads yet. Once the "duplicate" threads and redundant threads start to pop up, it'll become more in line with C230_617.
Various checks inconclusive at this point, guys. Give him the benefit of a doubt until we see the talltale patterns (behind the scenes).
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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It will work just fine. You'll need more than just the lysholm, but it would deffinately work without cracking the motor open.
I don't think that is the idea you want to give people. You probably can bolt on the Lysholm twin screw supercharger from a C32, but getting the system to work right will be a major headache and will end up costing just as much as Kleeman if not more $. So, it might work, but it won't be easy and it won't be cheap. I've already talked to someone who added the Lysholm supercharger from an e55 to his NA CLK55 engine. He basically said for money, he wouldn't have gotten the e55 supercharger, and would have Kleemanized it instead because of computer issues and too much boost with the AMG kit. You also have to consider reliability and drivability issues, so going with Kleeman or motor swap is still a better idea.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 01:39 AM
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Various checks inconclusive at this point, guys. Give him the benefit of a doubt until we see the talltale patterns (behind the scenes).
No problemo, Bob. As always, I'll take your guys' lead.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 03:17 AM
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In a motor swap you will also have issues with the computer but i belive you can put a turbo easier then a supercharger
You can add nos for a lot less and i dont think you will have problems
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 03:17 AM
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anyone put nos in a C class?
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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You can add nos for a lot less and i dont think you will have problems.....anyone put nos in a C class?
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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so what im getting from u guy's is just to by a C32 or C55 instead of supercharging my c320. i love my c320 and just wanted to enhance it. by the way how much more power would a turbo or super give. what is the best way of putting more power without spending a lot.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by m-benzw203
what is the best way of putting more power without spending a lot.
Take a test drive in an SL65 and get that bug out of your system. There is no such thing as a powerful upgrade for a low price with no messing around.

If Mercedes could do it .... they would surely do it and sell it.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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so what im getting from u guy's is just to by a C32 or C55 instead of supercharging my c320. i love my c320 and just wanted to enhance it. by the way how much more power would a turbo or super give. what is the best way of putting more power without spending a lot.
If your going to supercharge or turbocharge your current car, its going to cost you quite a bit ethier way. But if your talking about minor modifications such as pulley kit, ecu, aftermarket exhaust, and green filter(theres alot more), just STFF.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by m-benzw203
so what im getting from u guy's is just to by a C32 or C55 instead of supercharging my c320. i love my c320 and just wanted to enhance it. by the way how much more power would a turbo or super give. what is the best way of putting more power without spending a lot.
i dont think power is cheap. you can do an ECU upgrade and stuff like that.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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Superchargers have a couple of advantages. They are quickness, simple maintenance, and easy installation. Their disadvantages are uses Hp to compress the air and intercoolers are not so effective.

Turbochargers have a couple of advantages. They are driven by exhaust heat (not the wind coming from your tailpipe.) The turbo lowers the exhaust heat by about 300 degrees. This was heat you were throwing away, so there is no Hp used by the "turbolader" itself. Turbos have a couple of disadvantages. It takes them a moment to "wind up" to 100,000 rpm. This is turbo "lag" and is noticable if you start at idle. If you are already doin' 60, the trip to 120 is exciting. Just don't get the "teabag" caught in the five way harness, yeow! Turbos also have a severe maintenance problem with that bearing in the oil circuit. The bearing makes it own coke, but not the kind you can drink. There is also the problem with exhaust gasses passing through the waste gate. Ugly is about all you can say about that.

My choice is a turbo, just 'cause the whine is so much more pleasurable.

The advice earlier in the thread to just buy the AMG model is sterling. They are Superchargers in the C55, but at the highest form of the art. You will save money because you get the brakes, tires, wheels, styling, and bragging rights of an AMG.

The first German customer to ride in the C55 saw the sticker price and declared:

Auch, Mein God! and the name AMG was established.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by valdes
In a motor swap you will also have issues with the computer but i belive you can put a turbo easier then a supercharger
You can add nos for a lot less and i dont think you will have problems
Turbos are FAR MORE WORK than a supercharger. They require custom fab'd manifolds, the heat the turbo makes placement critical, and the amount of tuning required is far more extensive than any supercharger.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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Superchargers have a couple of advantages. They are quickness, simple maintenance, and easy installation. Their disadvantages are uses Hp to compress the air and intercoolers are not so effective.
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The intercoolers are are no different from Turbos. They are just as effective on Superchargers. A hot charge on a turbo car will detonate just as easily.

The supercharger does require a large portion of the HP it adds just to run the blower. That, and the instant boost, are the biggest differences compared to the Turbo performance.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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You'll have a lot more fun
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:55 AM
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MB is also showing an SLK320 CDI Tri-Turbo show car with Alubeam paint. Pretty nifty. It's in the latest Automobile Mag.
Tri Turbo Diesles!!?? thought the new 420 cdi and 320 cdi were twin turbo diesels
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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i do want to get a bike,but my girl wont let me is eigther the bike or her. she says she doesn't want to see me hert. of course ill have here
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Originally Posted by m-benzw203
i do want to get a bike,but my girl wont let me is eigther the bike or her. she says she doesn't want to see me hert. of course ill have here

Hopefully "here" has an English grammar and composition book you can borrow..
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Hopefully "here" has an English grammar and composition book you can borrow..


perhaps you're being a little too harsh... you don't want to "hert" his feelings now do you? I think "eigther" way, it's a tad bit much.
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Tri Turbo Diesles!!?? thought the new 420 cdi and 320 cdi were twin turbo diesels
Yes they are bi-turbo diesels, the SLK320CDI tri-turbo its a prototype, they had to inovate after BMW invented the bi-turbo on a in-line diesel, 535d!!!

Auch, Mein God! and the name AMG was established.
LOLOLOOOOOOOOL
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