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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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question what would be better for my c320 a super or turbo and what is the performance difference im thinking on getting one, but i want one that will benefit me. oooooooo i never heard of turbo benz if i go with a super is it better to get it from benz it self or a another place
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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question what would be better for my c320 a super or turbo and what is the performance difference im thinking on getting one, but i want one that will benefit me. oooooooo i never heard of turbo benz if i go with a super is it better to get it from benz it self or a another place
ever heard of a SL65 Bi-turbo or CL65 Bi-turbo?
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by m-benzw203
question what would be better for my c320 a super or turbo and what is the performance difference im thinking on getting one, but i want one that will benefit me. oooooooo i never heard of turbo benz if i go with a super is it better to get it from benz it self or a another place

quite a few have done the Pratt & Whitney conversion with positive results.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:40 AM
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MB has done turbo diesel too
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:17 AM
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MB is also showing an SLK320 CDI Tri-Turbo show car with Alubeam paint. Pretty nifty. It's in the latest Automobile Mag.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by m-benzw203
question what would be better for my c320 a super or turbo and what is the performance difference im thinking on getting one, but i want one that will benefit me. oooooooo i never heard of turbo benz if i go with a super is it better to get it from benz it self or a another place
Read about.com to learn the difference between a supercharger and a turbocharger. Neither one is inherently more powerful.

MB is not going to sell you a supercharger kit (or a turbocharger kit). You'll need to get it from a tuner.

Although, and maybe MBenzNL or someone knows the answer to this...could you order kompressor parts from a C32 and fit them onto a C320 engine? Even if it were possible something tells me it might be cheaper to go with a tuner kit.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:25 AM
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MB is also showing an SLK320 CDI Tri-Turbo show car with Alubeam paint. Pretty nifty. It's in the latest Automobile Mag.
too bad it will not hit US shores anytime soon. :[
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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MB has done turbo diesel too
true. i've owned two of them.

C123 300CD and W124 300D. :Y
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:30 AM
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondK
Read about.com to learn the difference between a supercharger and a turbocharger. Neither one is inherently more powerful.

MB is not going to sell you a supercharger kit (or a turbocharger kit). You'll need to get it from a tuner.

Although, and maybe MBenzNL or someone knows the answer to this...could you order kompressor parts from a C32 and fit them onto a C320 engine? Even if it were possible something tells me it might be cheaper to go with a tuner kit.
It won't work. The NA C320 engine and C32 AMG engine are different. They may share the same engine block, but components such as crankshaft and pistons were reinforced on the AMG handbuilt engine. Compression ratios and timing is different. Only alternative to "super" the NA C320 engine would be to add an aftermarket supercharger from Kleeman, Renntech, or Carlsson. Be prepared to spend at least $12K-15K on supercharging it and your warranty will most likely be voided. Easier to do motor swap. Easiest method would be to just buy an AMG car.

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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondK
Read about.com to learn the difference between a supercharger and a turbocharger. Neither one is inherently more powerful.

MB is not going to sell you a supercharger kit (or a turbocharger kit). You'll need to get it from a tuner.

Although, and maybe MBenzNL or someone knows the answer to this...could you order kompressor parts from a C32 and fit them onto a C320 engine? Even if it were possible something tells me it might be cheaper to go with a tuner kit.
Complete engines go for less than tuner kits. Why a spanner set makes me more qualified than Doctorates in Engineering is anyones guess. But cubic inches beats higher compression which is why AMG feels the need to have more cubic inches as a statement in the marketplace.

If someone could do it for less money with a smaller motor .... they surely would.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pshek
It won't work. The NA C320 engine and C32 AMG engine are different. They may share the same engine block, but components such as crankshaft and pistons were reinforced on the AMG handbuilt engine.
This is always my thought when I hear about people wanting to push the power outpout on standard engines that are built for a certain power output. Sure I believe that the engines including full drive train might be able to deal with small gains in power output, but something has to give up eventually downstream if you keep increasing power at the top end and don't change all components withing the engine and drivetrain.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Turbo hands down. Don't beleive the hype about a turbo car not being reliable. It's all about the tuning.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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just run with a 50-shot of wet NOS its not soo much that you will destroy anything. and much cheaper then a 10k+ conversion.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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Honestly guys, if the guy has the money, let him purchase the Supercharger kit from Kleeman etc.. If he doesn't then he's out of luck.

Also you guys worry about the waranty issue a little to excessively. By law the factory cannot void your waranty if you were to add a supercharger. The only way they can void a waranty or to be more accurate "WARANTY SERVICE" is if your added performance part actually caused the the waranty repair issue, and they have to prove it. Plain and simple

now, it's friday and i've typed way to much..

Liquor before beer, you're all in the clear! remember that and you'll have a great weekend! Have a happy one!
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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...oooooooo i never heard of turbo benz ...
I'm pretty sure the SL600 is Turbo charged. Also, there was a 230 Coupe that had a custom Turbo (although I heard there were problems with the car).
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Honestly, if this guy had a C230 instead of the C320, I would have called him out as being C230_617.

Perhaps he's just saying he has a C320, but I don't know... His posts have just been waaaaay too similar to our buddy C230_617.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Honestly, if this guy had a C230 instead of the C320, I would have called him out as being C230_617.

Perhaps he's just saying he has a C320, but I don't know... His posts have just been waaaaay too similar to our buddy C230_617.
I'd jump on this too, Phil, but not enough new threads yet. Once the "duplicate" threads and redundant threads start to pop up, it'll become more in line with C230_617.
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I'm pretty sure the SL600 is Turbo charged. Also, there was a 230 Coupe that had a custom Turbo (although I heard there were problems with the car).
all the 600s have biturbo. s600, cl600, sl600.
again, welcome aboard m-benzw203
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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It won't work.
It will work just fine. You'll need more than just the lysholm, but it would deffinately work without cracking the motor open.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Honestly, if this guy had a C230 instead of the C320, I would have called him out as being C230_617.

Perhaps he's just saying he has a C320, but I don't know... His posts have just been waaaaay too similar to our buddy C230_617.
I agree, but then again some of the replies have been at about the same level.
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