View Poll Results: What sways to install???
EIBACH
5
41.67%
H&R
2
16.67%
AMG
5
41.67%
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New sways purchase opinion???
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'13 E500 Coupe AMG// '17 E350d // '24 E53 AMG
New sways purchase opinion???
Ok guys, I read it and asked some of this questions before, but now I got all the prices (or almost) and I want a second opinion.
H&R special anti-roll bars
26mm front bar - efective lever arm 155/170 adjustable
19mm rear bar - efective lever arm 175/190 adjustable
bushings included
350,9€
Eibach anti-roll kit (pic)
24mm front bar - efective lever arm 175/195 adjustable
22mm rear bar - efective lever arm 177
bushings included
339,8€
AMG sways
22mm front bar - A203 323 44 65 80€
16mm rear bar - A203 326 15 65 65€
frount mounting brackets x2 - A203 323 27 40 5,28€
rear bushing x2 - A203 326 00 81 8,16€
endlink x2 - A203 320 26 89 ???
rubber mounting - 203 323 22 85 3,45€
m12 nuts x4 - 913023 012002 ???
(parts info on the forum, prices value indication)
Its this AMG parts info correct???
Which sways do you guys would install???
(prices with 21% TAX, but this would be a company purchase...)
H&R special anti-roll bars
26mm front bar - efective lever arm 155/170 adjustable
19mm rear bar - efective lever arm 175/190 adjustable
bushings included
350,9€
Eibach anti-roll kit (pic)
24mm front bar - efective lever arm 175/195 adjustable
22mm rear bar - efective lever arm 177
bushings included
339,8€
AMG sways
22mm front bar - A203 323 44 65 80€
16mm rear bar - A203 326 15 65 65€
frount mounting brackets x2 - A203 323 27 40 5,28€
rear bushing x2 - A203 326 00 81 8,16€
endlink x2 - A203 320 26 89 ???
rubber mounting - 203 323 22 85 3,45€
m12 nuts x4 - 913023 012002 ???
(parts info on the forum, prices value indication)
Its this AMG parts info correct???
Which sways do you guys would install???
(prices with 21% TAX, but this would be a company purchase...)
Last edited by gaiex; Jan 31, 2006 at 07:34 PM.
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Brabus!
I've got them on my car and they are awesome! They're also the thickest of all the ones mentioned.
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I've got them on my car and they are awesome! They're also the thickest of all the ones mentioned.
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Originally Posted by gaiex
How much did it cost you?
Realistically, I think the Eibach or H&R's are a better value for the price.
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I have the evolution pack...
I didn't know that till yesterday, but its a bit strange!!! My dealer looked at EPC and he told me the same thing, only needed to change the rear sway!!!
But I also have EPC and I saw that I have a stock 20mm front sway and a stock 13mm rear sway, so how the hell I have the front AMG sway, I don't think so...
My mom '04.5 wagon with sport pack have from factory the AMG sways, I checked the part numbers, and they are the real AMG sways (same as the C30CDI and C32) 22mm front 16mm rear, and supossily when we talk instaling AMG sways these are the ones
I also looked at WIS and there they are rigth, 22mm and 16mm, so, the part guys don't know what his talking about
I didn't know that till yesterday, but its a bit strange!!! My dealer looked at EPC and he told me the same thing, only needed to change the rear sway!!!
But I also have EPC and I saw that I have a stock 20mm front sway and a stock 13mm rear sway, so how the hell I have the front AMG sway, I don't think so...
My mom '04.5 wagon with sport pack have from factory the AMG sways, I checked the part numbers, and they are the real AMG sways (same as the C30CDI and C32) 22mm front 16mm rear, and supossily when we talk instaling AMG sways these are the ones
I also looked at WIS and there they are rigth, 22mm and 16mm, so, the part guys don't know what his talking about
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I have the evolution and the front are the AMG and the rear are nearly the same as the AMG and very different of stock ones.
I know this because I bought the AMG and when I got them I saw that they were the same.
Best Regards.
I know this because I bought the AMG and when I got them I saw that they were the same.
Best Regards.
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Originally Posted by gaiex
I have the evolution pack...
I didn't know that till yesterday, but its a bit strange!!! My dealer looked at EPC and he told me the same thing, only needed to change the rear sway!!!
But I also have EPC and I saw that I have a stock 20mm front sway and a stock 13mm rear sway, so how the hell I have the front AMG sway, I don't think so...
My mom '04.5 wagon with sport pack have from factory the AMG sways, I checked the part numbers, and they are the real AMG sways (same as the C30CDI and C32) 22mm front 16mm rear, and supossily when we talk instaling AMG sways these are the ones
I also looked at WIS and there they are rigth, 22mm and 16mm, so, the part guys don't know what his talking about
I didn't know that till yesterday, but its a bit strange!!! My dealer looked at EPC and he told me the same thing, only needed to change the rear sway!!!
But I also have EPC and I saw that I have a stock 20mm front sway and a stock 13mm rear sway, so how the hell I have the front AMG sway, I don't think so...
My mom '04.5 wagon with sport pack have from factory the AMG sways, I checked the part numbers, and they are the real AMG sways (same as the C30CDI and C32) 22mm front 16mm rear, and supossily when we talk instaling AMG sways these are the ones
I also looked at WIS and there they are rigth, 22mm and 16mm, so, the part guys don't know what his talking about
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Checked again, and this is the deal:
If you just order AMG sways for your evolution coupe (sedan I don't know) you will have some ordinary MB sways or, and in this case only the rear one is changed, they say (its what the EPC says) only the rear one is diferent!!!!!
So, you have to order the real AMG sways, the same in the C30CDI, C32 and some of >04.5' models like my mom wagon
Any one with EPC (and I checked) can see what I'm saying, and today I talked with my parts guy at the dealer, and he confirmed me, I gave him my mom's wagon VIN and the sways match the C30 or C32, and not the same as the so called "AMG" sways upgrade/factory for the coupe
prices and parts:
AMG sways
22mm front bar - A203 323 44 65 54,37€
frount mounting brackets x2 - A203 323 22 85 10,05€
front endlink x2 - A203 320 28 89 67,7€
m12 nuts x4 - 913023 012002 ???
16mm rear bar - A203 326 15 65 61,5€
rear bushing x2 - A203 326 00 81 10,75€
rear endlink x2 - 51,77€
m?? nuts x4 - ???
TOTAL: +-256,14€
(prices include my 20% discount and Taxes)
If you just order AMG sways for your evolution coupe (sedan I don't know) you will have some ordinary MB sways or, and in this case only the rear one is changed, they say (its what the EPC says) only the rear one is diferent!!!!!
So, you have to order the real AMG sways, the same in the C30CDI, C32 and some of >04.5' models like my mom wagon
Any one with EPC (and I checked) can see what I'm saying, and today I talked with my parts guy at the dealer, and he confirmed me, I gave him my mom's wagon VIN and the sways match the C30 or C32, and not the same as the so called "AMG" sways upgrade/factory for the coupe
prices and parts:
AMG sways
22mm front bar - A203 323 44 65 54,37€
frount mounting brackets x2 - A203 323 22 85 10,05€
front endlink x2 - A203 320 28 89 67,7€
m12 nuts x4 - 913023 012002 ???
16mm rear bar - A203 326 15 65 61,5€
rear bushing x2 - A203 326 00 81 10,75€
rear endlink x2 - 51,77€
m?? nuts x4 - ???
TOTAL: +-256,14€
(prices include my 20% discount and Taxes)
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Originally Posted by gaiex
My stock sways are:
20mm front
13mm rear
20mm front
13mm rear
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C'mon guys, I was expecting more votes...
Does the 100€ more on the Eibach are a way to go, ore the handling improvement is not worth the 100€??? :p
Does the 100€ more on the Eibach are a way to go, ore the handling improvement is not worth the 100€??? :p
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'13 E500 Coupe AMG// '17 E350d // '24 E53 AMG
Originally Posted by rubensans
203-115-00 BRABUS sway bar kit CL 203 € 510.00
front and rear, front axle adjustable
front and rear, front axle adjustable
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OK guys, this is a bit strange, I lift up my car to measure my sways and to check if the EPC was rigth, the thing is, I have 22mm front sway and 16mm rear sway (same size as the AMG ones), LOL :p
Why this, and why with the same sways the car handling is so different from my mom '04.5 sport wagon????????
Could be some differences in the sways!?
Why this, and why with the same sways the car handling is so different from my mom '04.5 sport wagon????????
Could be some differences in the sways!?
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Originally Posted by gaiex
OK guys, this is a bit strange, I lift up my car to measure my sways and to check if the EPC was rigth, the thing is, I have 22mm front sway and 16mm rear sway (same size as the AMG ones), LOL :p
Why this, and why with the same sways the car handling is so different from my mom '04.5 sport wagon????????
Could be some differences in the sways!?
Why this, and why with the same sways the car handling is so different from my mom '04.5 sport wagon????????
Could be some differences in the sways!?
Evolution car have: the AMG sways, the AMG shocks, and the AMG springs.
Best Regards.
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'13 E500 Coupe AMG// '17 E350d // '24 E53 AMG
Originally Posted by rubensans
I told you that :-D
Evolution car have: the AMG sways, the AMG shocks, and the AMG springs.
Best Regards.
Evolution car have: the AMG sways, the AMG shocks, and the AMG springs.
Best Regards.
So, why the different handlling????
Wait a minute, when we buy a new car we have the AMG suspension option beside the evolution option, so there must be differences
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Originally Posted by gaiex
But the rear sway must be different like my part guy sayed
So, why the different handlling????
Wait a minute, when we buy a new car we have the AMG suspension option beside the evolution option, so there must be differences
So, why the different handlling????
Wait a minute, when we buy a new car we have the AMG suspension option beside the evolution option, so there must be differences
You can order the evolution package, or the evolution amg package, and the two have the same suspensión.
The rear sway is 14 or 15 isntead of 16 but it's nearly the same.
Best Regards.
