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Mazda dealer changed my oil to Mobil 1 10w-30 synthetic (w203)

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Old 04-22-2006, 04:58 AM
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Mazda dealer changed my oil to Mobil 1 10w-30 synthetic (w203)

Okay, I've searched in this forum so many times and I'm just confuse; or I guess i just can't comprehend. So please don't flame me. I have 2002 C240.

I have a free oil changes for a lifetime at this Mazda dealership. I took my car and had my engine oil replaced. The first time they change my oil, they put Mobil 1 5w-40 synth. ( I don't remember). Second time was Mobil 1 10w-30 synth. According to my owners manual I should use Mobil 1 0w-40 synth. I checked the info on 10w-30, it does not meet the requirement for my 2002 c240. I also called the 1-800 hotline and the rep said 10w-30 is just fine.

I'm thinking about switching to 0w-40 oil , but my question is, am i gonna be fine with 10w-30 that i have right now, BTW I live in Arizona, it's like 99 degrees Farenheit.

Yet, another oil question.
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nevermind, dumb question. I found the answer- search.
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The only oil readily available in the US that meets Mercedes sheet 229.5 specification is Mobil 1 0W-40. This oil has an additive package that allows the extended service life of 1 year or 13,000 miles. You must also use the specified fleece filter. I bet the dealer used the older, easy to find, slightly cheaper, paper filter.

It is a question of who do you trust. A building full of lubrication engineers at Mercedes and ExxonMobil, or a fella who works at a 1 800 phone room?

On second thought, looking at how fast gas prices are rising, perhaps trust and ExxonMobil should not be in the same paragraph.
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yes, I switched to Mobil 1 0w-40 synthetic. I noticed a big difference in accelaration. But what is the difference between "European formula 0w-40" than non-european formula? I have non-european formula 0w-40 Mobil 1 synthetic right now.
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I don't think there is any difference, just advertising on the bottle. The important thing is on the rear label of the bottle. It MUST say meets Mercedes 229.5. That is what tells you it is for a W203 Mercedes-Benz. Older cars can use other variations of Mobil 1, but they don't have the extended service interval that the newer cars have.

You will see some bottles of Mobil 1 that say they are used by Mercedes-Benz, but if they don't quote 229.5, it is NOT approved for use in our cars.

Don't overlook the filter either, make sure you are getting the fleece filter. It is made by Mann-Hummel, but I have not seen one outside a Mercedes-Benz dealer.

I am not sure why you would notice a difference in accelaration, the proper oil is not that much different than other Mobil 1 products. It is mostly the longevity of the additive package that is different. This means the oil meets specifications longer than other oils with less robust additives.
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I don't think there is any difference, just advertising on the bottle. The important thing is on the rear label of the bottle. It MUST say meets Mercedes 229.5. That is what tells you it is for a W203 Mercedes-Benz. Older cars can use other variations of Mobil 1, but they don't have the extended service interval that the newer cars have.

You will see some bottles of Mobil 1 that say they are used by Mercedes-Benz, but if they don't quote 229.5, it is NOT approved for use in our cars.

Don't overlook the filter either, make sure you are getting the fleece filter. It is made by Mann-Hummel, but I have not seen one outside a Mercedes-Benz dealer.

I am not sure why you would notice a difference in accelaration, the proper oil is not that much different than other Mobil 1 products. It is mostly the longevity of the additive package that is different. This means the oil meets specifications longer than other oils with less robust additives.
I have no clue!? It runs better when I switched to 0w-40; it has 8 qts of 0w-40.
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I have put MB filters in my C230 and the ones the parts guy gives me for my car is pleated paper. The manual says one year or 15,000 klms. What about this fleece filter?? No one told me to put it in for a one year change and the manual doesn't mention it. Do the parts guys know about a fleece filter? Please tell me something I don't know.
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The fleece filter has been specified since Sept. 1, 2003. It is part number 000 180 26 09. This replaced part number 000 180 23 09 and 000 180 22 09. This fleece filter when used with sheet 229.5 oil allows the extended service interval of 1 year/ 13000 miles. The oil and filter are for engines 112, 113, and 137. If you are lucky enough to have a 112.960/961 or 113.990/991/991 engine, the change interval remains the same, even with the fleece filter.

The filter 'kit' from Mercedes comes with a Mann HU 718/5 filter, also marked with a star and A112 184 05 25, and four O rings to reseal the housing. The filter has brown colored ends and white pleated filter material. The entire cylinder is wrapped with string saturated in glue.
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Originally Posted by Moviela
The fleece filter has been specified since Sept. 1, 2003. It is part number 000 180 26 09. This replaced part number 000 180 23 09 and 000 180 22 09. This fleece filter when used with sheet 229.5 oil allows the extended service interval of 1 year/ 13000 miles. The oil and filter are for engines 112, 113, and 137. If you are lucky enough to have a 112.960/961 or 113.990/991/991 engine, the change interval remains the same, even with the fleece filter.

The filter 'kit' from Mercedes comes with a Mann HU 718/5 filter, also marked with a star and A112 184 05 25, and four O rings to reseal the housing. The filter has brown colored ends and white pleated filter material. The entire cylinder is wrapped with string saturated in glue.
Nice! thanks Moviela! I will print up these part #s.

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