W203 Body Differnces?
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W203 Body Differnces?
Hi guys, insterested in purchasing a w203 Sedan, besides the engine are there any differences in the outside appearance of each model? Or are they all the same (outside wise)?
What model would you guys go with??? if you had a choice between a C230K/Sport and a C240?
Any Info Would Be Greatly Appreciated...
What model would you guys go with??? if you had a choice between a C230K/Sport and a C240?
Any Info Would Be Greatly Appreciated...
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2002 C230
Def. go with a C230. Now if you look at 04 model you will see that the bumper is different than the 05 and the wheels are the C7 package wheels with the 17's which look pretty decent. Now 05 you get the amg bodykit with an chrome exhaust tip, also the wheels are five spoke 17s and the interior is nicer IMO in the 05. For the 06 you have a completely different engine which is a V6 with 201hp, some people find it more peppy than the 1.8l 188hp kompressor, also the suspension is tweaked alittle more than the 04 model. Good luck and let us know what happens.
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I just bought a new 2005 (lucky last one I guess) C230 Sport Sedan Kompressor (4x supercharger). I drove the 2006, and it has only 3HP more, but is fatter (more torque) in the midrange than the Lompressor. But as my wife's DD, the SS-K is a stealth missile disguised as a commuter.
The car has the nice AMG 'look' (pretty cool: even at 53 I like that), nice wheels and brakes (who does MB brakes anyway?), and fat staggered tires/rims. All in all a MUCH better bargain than ANY 3-class BMW (the competition) in the price range. I like the BMW fine, but the level of refinement, ride quality and crispness, and overall fit-and-finish on this car boggles me.
It is NOT an M-crusher, but you can embarass many an unsuspecting Bimmer as you like, and really enjoy the view while doing so.
The car has the nice AMG 'look' (pretty cool: even at 53 I like that), nice wheels and brakes (who does MB brakes anyway?), and fat staggered tires/rims. All in all a MUCH better bargain than ANY 3-class BMW (the competition) in the price range. I like the BMW fine, but the level of refinement, ride quality and crispness, and overall fit-and-finish on this car boggles me.
It is NOT an M-crusher, but you can embarass many an unsuspecting Bimmer as you like, and really enjoy the view while doing so.
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Since I know no other veterans will chime in and if they do, they'd tell you to search the forum, I'll give you a breakdown:
230 vs. 240
2001-2004 240
- Luxury springs (higher profile than 230)
- Ugly stock rims from 2001-2004
- Sluggish v6 engine
2005 240
- Refresh rims (nicer, but still not that nice)
- Refresh front bumper (a little different styling than prior years)
2003-2004 230 K SS
- m271 engine
- Sport Springs/Shocks
- C7 rims (7 spoke)
- 2003, from what I have heard, didn't offer power seats (could be mis-information)
2004.5 230 K SS
- Refresh pedals (silver with rubber pegs)
- Refresh brakes (4 piston calipers - debated to be the same as the C32 frong calipers; big front cross-drilled rotors)
- Refresh wheels (1st model with current wheel applications on 230
- Refresh fog lights (clear lens foglights)
2005 230 K SS
- Facelift year (AMG body kit)
- Refresh Suspension (Sport suspension designed to mimic AMG suspension and springs sit a little lower than prior SS models)
- Adaptive Steering Control
- Downgrade in front calipers (2 Piston)
- No free service
Hope you make the right decision. Really, it just depends if you want more luxury or more sporty. And also depends on whether you intend on modding, as well as the price you pay for a pre-owned.
230 vs. 240
2001-2004 240
- Luxury springs (higher profile than 230)
- Ugly stock rims from 2001-2004
- Sluggish v6 engine
2005 240
- Refresh rims (nicer, but still not that nice)
- Refresh front bumper (a little different styling than prior years)
2003-2004 230 K SS
- m271 engine
- Sport Springs/Shocks
- C7 rims (7 spoke)
- 2003, from what I have heard, didn't offer power seats (could be mis-information)
2004.5 230 K SS
- Refresh pedals (silver with rubber pegs)
- Refresh brakes (4 piston calipers - debated to be the same as the C32 frong calipers; big front cross-drilled rotors)
- Refresh wheels (1st model with current wheel applications on 230
- Refresh fog lights (clear lens foglights)
2005 230 K SS
- Facelift year (AMG body kit)
- Refresh Suspension (Sport suspension designed to mimic AMG suspension and springs sit a little lower than prior SS models)
- Adaptive Steering Control
- Downgrade in front calipers (2 Piston)
- No free service
Hope you make the right decision. Really, it just depends if you want more luxury or more sporty. And also depends on whether you intend on modding, as well as the price you pay for a pre-owned.
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Originally Posted by InTTruder
I just bought a new 2005 (lucky last one I guess) C230 Sport Sedan Kompressor (4x supercharger). I drove the 2006, and it has only 3HP more...
Whoever told you that the 2006 is only a little bit more power, they were wrong. But, the knock on the 2006 is the automatic transmission. Supposedly the 7 gear auto tranny makes the car feel like it's slower.
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Uh, no. That's wrong. the 2006 has a 2.5 liter v6 and is listed to have around 14 more hp at the crank. The 2006 is listed at above 200hp at the crank, whereas the 2003-2005 230 K SS has the m271 supercharged i4 and was only listed to have 189hp at the crank.
Whoever told you that the 2006 is only a little bit more power, they were wrong. But, the knock on the 2006 is the automatic transmission. Supposedly the 7 gear auto tranny makes the car feel like it's slower.
Whoever told you that the 2006 is only a little bit more power, they were wrong. But, the knock on the 2006 is the automatic transmission. Supposedly the 7 gear auto tranny makes the car feel like it's slower.
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Engine 2,496-cc DOHC 24-valve 90° V-6. High-pressure die-cast alloy cylinder block. Alloy heads. Counter-rotating balance shaft. Net power 201 hp @ 6,200 rpmNet torque 181 lb-ft @ 2,700 - 5,000 rpmCompression ratio 11.2:1Fuel requirement Premium unleaded gasoline.Fuel and ignition system ME 9.7 engine management. Integrated sequential multipoint fuel injection and ignition with individual cylinder control of fuel spray, spark timing and antiknock. Electronic throttle. One high-energy ignition coil and spark plug per cylinder. 100,000-mile spark-plug intervals. Intake system Dual overhead camshafts with continuously variable intake and exhaust timing. Magnesium 2-stage resonance intake manifold increases intake runner length at lower rpm for improved response. Electropneumatic turbulence flaps at start of intake path help increase intake airflow speed at midrange rpm for greater air-fuel mixture swirling and stronger, more complete combustion.
http://www.mbusa.com/models/features...0WZ&class=06_C
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Midnight Blue 2004.5 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan. 2002 w210 E320, 2009 w211 E350 Sport
Originally Posted by InTTruder
From the MB International webpage: the USA section-
Has MB changed the specs perhaps? I had the opinion that the 4x Kompressor had 198 peak HP.
http://www.mbusa.com/models/features...0WZ&class=06_C
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Engine 2,496-cc DOHC 24-valve 90° V-6. High-pressure die-cast alloy cylinder block. Alloy heads. Counter-rotating balance shaft. Net power 201 hp @ 6,200 rpmNet torque 181 lb-ft @ 2,700 - 5,000 rpmCompression ratio 11.2:1Fuel requirement Premium unleaded gasoline.Fuel and ignition system ME 9.7 engine management. Integrated sequential multipoint fuel injection and ignition with individual cylinder control of fuel spray, spark timing and antiknock. Electronic throttle. One high-energy ignition coil and spark plug per cylinder. 100,000-mile spark-plug intervals. Intake system Dual overhead camshafts with continuously variable intake and exhaust timing. Magnesium 2-stage resonance intake manifold increases intake runner length at lower rpm for improved response. Electropneumatic turbulence flaps at start of intake path help increase intake airflow speed at midrange rpm for greater air-fuel mixture swirling and stronger, more complete combustion.
http://www.mbusa.com/models/features...0WZ&class=06_C
Either way, I reiterate that whomever told you the m271 suprcharged i4 had that much power was really wrong. Do a search through these forums and you'll see old threads about how much people complained how slow the 230 K SS (m271) is and how there were no power mods available (currently, there are more power mods being R&D'd).
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