View Poll Results: do you like the a$$ on the C230k?
i love it
12
13.48%
yes
12
13.48%
not at first, but it grew on me
35
39.33%
i did at first, not no more
1
1.12%
no
12
13.48%
it needs to die
17
19.10%
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do you like the a$$ on the C230k?
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do you like the a$$ on the C230k?
i don't know why but i really like the rear end on the coupe. i mean, it didn't just grow on me, i really like it and i always have. maybe it's just because i've never been in the market for a good car before and have never had a car that looks as classy as a merc. anyway, there ya go.
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I like the car from every other angle - but the view directly from the rear is my least favorite. That said, I think the back end looks better on most of the late 90's MBs than on their newer counterparts. I like the 202 better than the 203 sedan, the new CLK's rear is nowhere near as good looking as the 208's.
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'02 C230K Coupe
Although it may not be the most common rear design, it's not also the most uncommon. Cars like the Mazda MX-5 and old Honda CRXs had the "fake" spoiler with the window. My feeling is that that particular design was chosen to help the aerodynamics of the car (as can be evidenced by an online article linked here a while ago). Although it's not THE most aesthetic design, I have absolutely no objections to it. Plus I think it's another feature that makes the C-coupe special in its own way.
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My answer is also that it is my least favorite view of the car...I really think it is quite a beautiful machine from all other angles...the sharp rake we have on our bonnets is a master piece of sexy design work IMO...but the choices in the poll dont quite allow for my opinion...so I didnt vote...gice it a more CL like rear and im happy...or even the forth coming CLE (is that for real?)
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Originally posted by preyx
old Honda CRXs had the "fake" spoiler with the window
old Honda CRXs had the "fake" spoiler with the window
The little blurb on it in CAR was a little harsh.
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2002 C230 K
Originally posted by London AMG
...but the choices in the poll dont quite allow for my opinion...so I didnt vote...
...but the choices in the poll dont quite allow for my opinion...so I didnt vote...
One other thing, whenever I'm streching my car cover over the big rear end - the thought goes through my head of Jennifer Lopez putting on a pair of jeans (which isn't a bad image).
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Originally posted by trench
One other thing, whenever I'm streching my car cover over the big rear end - the thought goes through my head of Jennifer Lopez putting on a pair of jeans (which isn't a bad image).
One other thing, whenever I'm streching my car cover over the big rear end - the thought goes through my head of Jennifer Lopez putting on a pair of jeans (which isn't a bad image).
, damn.
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Originally posted by preyx
Although it may not be the most common rear design, it's not also the most uncommon. Cars like the Mazda MX-5 and old Honda CRXs had the "fake" spoiler with the window. My feeling is that that particular design was chosen to help the aerodynamics of the car (as can be evidenced by an online article linked here a while ago).
Although it may not be the most common rear design, it's not also the most uncommon. Cars like the Mazda MX-5 and old Honda CRXs had the "fake" spoiler with the window. My feeling is that that particular design was chosen to help the aerodynamics of the car (as can be evidenced by an online article linked here a while ago).
Which is what a rear spoiler is for, in the first place.
Side note for those who don't know this yet: the bigger the spoiler, the higher the drag coefficient, the worse the acceleration. So, if you are trying to improve your 0-60 time, don't add any spolier to the existing one (e.g. RennTech), as it would only hurt.
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Originally posted by vadim
So, if you are trying to improve your 0-60 time, don't add any spolier to the existing one (e.g. RennTech), as it would only hurt.
So, if you are trying to improve your 0-60 time, don't add any spolier to the existing one (e.g. RennTech), as it would only hurt.
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Originally posted by vadim
The coupe's rear spoiler is by no means "fake" - it's very functional, as it does provide downforce to the rear axle at speed just enough to make the car more stable.
The coupe's rear spoiler is by no means "fake" - it's very functional, as it does provide downforce to the rear axle at speed just enough to make the car more stable.
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Originally posted by tommy
I don't really think that my Renntech spoiler is affecting my 0-60 times, cd or downforce - you do realize how small it is, right?
I don't really think that my Renntech spoiler is affecting my 0-60 times, cd or downforce - you do realize how small it is, right?
Another example - Audi TT. Ever noticed how tiny its rear spoiler is? Yet they had to add it at some point to address well known stability issues, and it does the job, despite its size. I bet a lot of people even percieve it as a purely cosmetic thingy.
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Originally posted by tommy
Well, the TT's spoiler is much bigger than my spoiler, and does much more to change the cd.
I'll post dynos soon. :p
Well, the TT's spoiler is much bigger than my spoiler, and does much more to change the cd.
I'll post dynos soon. :p
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I think its the worst part of the car, from a "looks" standpoint.
Looking at it from directly behind, the car looks narrow and tall.
But the worst angle is the rear 3/4 angle. The fender above the rear wheels is too bulky and to me doesn't fit the detailed, finer features of the front of the car.
They also should have made it less "Hatchbacky," a good example is the RSX, which is also a Hatchback but doesn't look it as much.
Looking at it from directly behind, the car looks narrow and tall.
But the worst angle is the rear 3/4 angle. The fender above the rear wheels is too bulky and to me doesn't fit the detailed, finer features of the front of the car.
They also should have made it less "Hatchbacky," a good example is the RSX, which is also a Hatchback but doesn't look it as much.
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the rear is toooo rump. looks like it's sticking it's rear end in the air. i think the coupe has too much rake look to it. it's overexaggerated.
the worst angle is looking at it from the front side view. it looks too narrow, too tall, and tooooooo much "rake" action going on. it just looks funny.
the worst angle is looking at it from the front side view. it looks too narrow, too tall, and tooooooo much "rake" action going on. it just looks funny.
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Originally posted by amgme
the rear is toooo rump. looks like it's sticking it's rear end in the air. i think the coupe has too much rake look to it. it's overexaggerated.
the worst angle is looking at it from the front side view. it looks too narrow, too tall, and tooooooo much "rake" action going on. it just looks funny.
the rear is toooo rump. looks like it's sticking it's rear end in the air. i think the coupe has too much rake look to it. it's overexaggerated.
the worst angle is looking at it from the front side view. it looks too narrow, too tall, and tooooooo much "rake" action going on. it just looks funny.
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Originally posted by vadim
Funny how so many people refer to the Coupe as "tall" and "narrow" - the C sedans are actally taller - 55.1" vs. Coupe's 54.3", and the width is the same - 68".
Funny how so many people refer to the Coupe as "tall" and "narrow" - the C sedans are actally taller - 55.1" vs. Coupe's 54.3", and the width is the same - 68".
The direct rear view of the sedan is also the sedan's worst view. It too looks too tall and narrow.
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Originally posted by SoCal240/6
Umm, maybe they BOTH are tall and narrow.
The direct rear view of the sedan is also the sedan's worst view. It too looks too tall and narrow.
Umm, maybe they BOTH are tall and narrow.
The direct rear view of the sedan is also the sedan's worst view. It too looks too tall and narrow.
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the coupe looks funnier because it's a shorter car. once you stretch out the length of the car, it looks a bit better. from the side view, the lines of the coupe gives the impression that the rear is high off the groud (too rumpy). just look at the window lines of the coupe. it's tooooo slanted.
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wow, i thought i was the only one that didn't like it. it's, as amgme put it, too rump. they need to flatten down the back side to make it look more proportional to the slanted front. looking dead on from the front, it looks like you can actually see it's rear end.
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Originally posted by tommy
I don't really think that my Renntech spoiler is affecting my 0-60 times, cd or downforce - you do realize how small it is, right?
I don't really think that my Renntech spoiler is affecting my 0-60 times, cd or downforce - you do realize how small it is, right?
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Originally posted by London AMG
Hmmmmm I wonder what if any real affect my AMG spoiler has....surely it's only a cosmetic thing,bearing in mind it is so tiny do you guyz even realize the AMG styled body has a rear spoiler?
Hmmmmm I wonder what if any real affect my AMG spoiler has....surely it's only a cosmetic thing,bearing in mind it is so tiny do you guyz even realize the AMG styled body has a rear spoiler?
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