Can a C230 Kompressor take on a Golf GTI ?
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Can a C230 Kompressor take on a Golf GTI ?
I have test drive a Golf GTI and obviously, the handling and the instantaneous torque is awesome
. Just wondering if a C230 Kompressor will be able to take on a GTI ? Apart from the power to weight ratio and the DSG gearbox, does the turbo kicks in faster than a supercharger ?
Does anyone here has any idea what is the size of the stock exhaust pipes of your C230 Kompressor ? 2.25 " or 2 " ?
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Does anyone here has any idea what is the size of the stock exhaust pipes of your C230 Kompressor ? 2.25 " or 2 " ?
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It would be a close race, and it really depends on which GTI. If it's a VR6 you're screwed.
If its a 2002 - 2005 GTI turbocharged 4 banger, you might have a chance. An 05 manual C230, shifted properly, could keep up with an auto GTI. If its a manual GTI and the driver knows how to drive, again the race would goto the GTI.
They're quick light cars. It would be interesting to see how the turbo lag in the GTI would play out against a smaller but faster spool supercharger in our cars. Maybe you could run good to like 30 mph?
If you really want to know my buddy is supposed to get his 2004 GTI back from the shop on Wednesday (a deer hit him) and I'll probably horse around with him this weekend. Both our cars are manuals.
If its a 2002 - 2005 GTI turbocharged 4 banger, you might have a chance. An 05 manual C230, shifted properly, could keep up with an auto GTI. If its a manual GTI and the driver knows how to drive, again the race would goto the GTI.
They're quick light cars. It would be interesting to see how the turbo lag in the GTI would play out against a smaller but faster spool supercharger in our cars. Maybe you could run good to like 30 mph?
If you really want to know my buddy is supposed to get his 2004 GTI back from the shop on Wednesday (a deer hit him) and I'll probably horse around with him this weekend. Both our cars are manuals.
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nothing as close.. 2006 GTI is close to a 2000 911 non turbo.. Ive seen it in person they raced! Both are my buddy's.
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GTI, 911 is not close.
Originally Posted by SEXSPHERE
nothing as close.. 2006 GTI is close to a 2000 911 non turbo.. Ive seen it in person they raced! Both are my buddy's.
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2003 c230k sport 4 door
From a former volkswagen 20th anniversary GTI owner.I can easily say the GTI is faster but they are not light.The GTI I had was close to 4000 pounds.
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and by the way, they are actually dyno'd at 200 at the wheels, which would almost translate to about 230 Crank HP.
They are underrated front the factory.
Which also means they will anihalate our cars.
They are underrated front the factory.
Which also means they will anihalate our cars.
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Originally Posted by SEXSPHERE
nothing as close.. 2006 GTI is close to a 2000 911 non turbo.. Ive seen it in person they raced! Both are my buddy's.
A 2003 to 2005 C230 would loose. But not embarassingly so...a 2006 would probably get whooped good. A 2002 would likely be dead even with the GTI. Performance specs are nearly identical. The new GTI is a wonderful car...but the performance isn't stellar.
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don't know much about numbers and all that jazz...but what i do know is that I had a 03 C230 Komp and tried racing my buddy's GTI....
He blazed my ***...
He blazed my ***...
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GTIs are fast cars. My budy has a gorgeous 2004 GTI with an aftermaket exost and a K&N cold air intake. We never raced but from the way his car drives I think he would probably smoke me. Mine is a manual and so is his, but from what I have seen the gear ratios are diffrent and it works more towads his advantage.
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Here's where I'm lost:
If a GTI runs 0 to 60 in 7.2 seconds (as stated above) and the 2003 - 2005 C230 runs 0 to 60 in 7.2 as well - how would it not be at least close?
If a GTI runs 0 to 60 in 7.2 seconds (as stated above) and the 2003 - 2005 C230 runs 0 to 60 in 7.2 as well - how would it not be at least close?
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Gentleman, we keep going over this. Get the PULLEY. An easy estra 20+ horse at the wheel.
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Image removed 7/18/06 - (Let's keep it civil, Sauceboy).
you are also an idiot.
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2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
No pullies for the C230k M271 motors yet...
you are also an idiot.
I don't understand where you are coming from, but it doesn't matter much. I'll keep posting away. Trying to offer some insight for those with a car that means something to them.
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Ohh, keep thinking of something to say... Be clever, be cute....Perhaps post a picture....Good boy.
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Originally Posted by Outland
Right....keep passing the crack pipe buddy.
A 2003 to 2005 C230 would loose. But not embarassingly so...a 2006 would probably get whooped good. A 2002 would likely be dead even with the GTI. Performance specs are nearly identical. The new GTI is a wonderful car...but the performance isn't stellar.
A 2003 to 2005 C230 would loose. But not embarassingly so...a 2006 would probably get whooped good. A 2002 would likely be dead even with the GTI. Performance specs are nearly identical. The new GTI is a wonderful car...but the performance isn't stellar.
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I dont think my C320 would beat it..... C230k? No chance..
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//WALD C320 Magnifique [sold], BMW Z4 3.0i 6spd[sold]
Originally Posted by k_lundquist
Here's where I'm lost:
If a GTI runs 0 to 60 in 7.2 seconds (as stated above) and the 2003 - 2005 C230 runs 0 to 60 in 7.2 as well - how would it not be at least close?
If a GTI runs 0 to 60 in 7.2 seconds (as stated above) and the 2003 - 2005 C230 runs 0 to 60 in 7.2 as well - how would it not be at least close?
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2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
Originally Posted by Sauceboy01
No pullies for the C230k M271 motors yet...
you are also an idiot.
you are also an idiot.
No worries, He can have the last word. Sauce....Spoon,....
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Drex, you took away the reply.
No worries, He can have the last word. Sauce....Spoon,....
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2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
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Still there. I just took out the picture in your response.
You have a tough job to do. I wouldn't want it. But hearty congrats. Now, How do I fit a Toyota MR2 turbo in a X1/9?
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So who was that tough guy today in a very clean light blue C230 sports sedan that tried to race me???? I was in loaner and still smoked him. After i did over a buck he backed off. Anyways ya i think the GTi would def smoke a C230.
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i know this is a little off topic..but i was on the fwy after toying with an STI intown..and we went at it on the fwy, he only pulled on me about 2-3 cars at 120mph i think if we kept going and didnt hit traffic i would have caught up cuz i was pulling up on him, i have the v6 06 model, i think the 05 vs a gti would be a even match depending on driver and a few breather mods to make up for weight to tq.
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Originally Posted by anthuny85
i know this is a little off topic..but i was on the fwy after toying with an STI intown..and we went at it on the fwy, he only pulled on me about 2-3 cars at 120mph i think if we kept going and didnt hit traffic i would have caught up cuz i was pulling up on him, i have the v6 06 model, i think the 05 vs a gti would be a even match depending on driver and a few breather mods to make up for weight to tq.
chipped and exhaust gti's pull mid to high 14's in quarter.
STi would eat a GTI... as a snack
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2002 C230 Coupe(M111)
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A 911 runs to 60 in 5 flat...even an older one. The quarter mile drops in 13ish seconds. The GTI is running to 60 in 7.2, the quarter in low 15s. Your candy *** friend in the 911 can't drive, or the car is seriously down on power.
Everyone thinks theyve got a fast car when they don't loose by much, but the truth is, it takes a MUCH faster vehicle to make a big gap.
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I dont think my C320 would beat it..... C230k? No chance..