slkfans

I have test drive a Golf GTI and obviously, the handling and the instantaneous torque is awesome . Just wondering if a C230 Kompressor will be able to take on a GTI ? Apart from the power to weight ratio and the DSG gearbox, does the turbo kicks in faster than a supercharger ?

Does anyone here has any idea what is the size of the stock exhaust pipes of your C230 Kompressor ? 2.25 " or 2 " ?

electromethod

ummmmm ... yahhhh..... i think the GTI would sh*t all over our C230's in a race. Then again, I am not stupid enough to pretend my car is fast.

k_lundquist

It would be a close race, and it really depends on which GTI. If it's a VR6 you're screwed.

If its a 2002 - 2005 GTI turbocharged 4 banger, you might have a chance. An 05 manual C230, shifted properly, could keep up with an auto GTI. If its a manual GTI and the driver knows how to drive, again the race would goto the GTI.

They're quick light cars. It would be interesting to see how the turbo lag in the GTI would play out against a smaller but faster spool supercharger in our cars. Maybe you could run good to like 30 mph?

If you really want to know my buddy is supposed to get his 2004 GTI back from the shop on Wednesday (a deer hit him) and I'll probably horse around with him this weekend. Both our cars are manuals.

SEXSPHERE

nothing as close.. 2006 GTI is close to a 2000 911 non turbo.. Ive seen it in person they raced! Both are my buddy's.

BabyBenz6spd

C230 are too heavy to be called "fast", I say th edge to the GTI due to it's weight.

benzc230wz

I doubt it's close. '06 GTI (200hp, 207 tq, front wheel drive turbo I4, 3308 lbs, 0-60 ~ 7.2sec) vs '00 porsche 911 (300 hp, 258 tq, rear engine rwd boxer 6, 3131lbs, 0-60 ~ 5.0 sec). 911 has 1) weight advantage, 2) power advantage, 3) rear weight bias on a rwd has a standing start advantage(better driving wheel traction), 4) handling and 5) braking advantage. Porsche 911 wins. Granted, if GTI has the DSG dual-clutch auto, GTI will get a consistent fast gear switch. Even then, unless the 911 driver is slow on gear change, it won't be close. On track, not close.

PsiTERROR

From a former volkswagen 20th anniversary GTI owner.I can easily say the GTI is faster but they are not light.The GTI I had was close to 4000 pounds.

Sauceboy01

and by the way, they are actually dyno'd at 200 at the wheels, which would almost translate to about 230 Crank HP.

They are underrated front the factory.

Which also means they will anihalate our cars.

Outland

Right....keep passing the crack pipe buddy.

A 2003 to 2005 C230 would loose. But not embarassingly so...a 2006 would probably get whooped good. A 2002 would likely be dead even with the GTI. Performance specs are nearly identical. The new GTI is a wonderful car...but the performance isn't stellar.

tromar1

don't know much about numbers and all that jazz...but what i do know is that I had a 03 C230 Komp and tried racing my buddy's GTI....

He blazed my ***...

cla 1000

GTIs are fast cars. My budy has a gorgeous 2004 GTI with an aftermaket exost and a K&N cold air intake. We never raced but from the way his car drives I think he would probably smoke me. Mine is a manual and so is his, but from what I have seen the gear ratios are diffrent and it works more towads his advantage.

SeaCoupe

Gentleman, we keep going over this. Get the PULLEY. An easy estra 20+ horse at the wheel.

Ed

k_lundquist

Here's where I'm lost:

If a GTI runs 0 to 60 in 7.2 seconds (as stated above) and the 2003 - 2005 C230 runs 0 to 60 in 7.2 as well - how would it not be at least close?

Dub4Life

GTI all the way

Sauceboy01

No pullies for the C230k M271 motors yet...

you are also an idiot.

SeaCoupe

There is more power in our cars. Yes, even the M271. You just have to put a little effort into it.

I don't understand where you are coming from, but it doesn't matter much. I'll keep posting away. Trying to offer some insight for those with a car that means something to them.


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Ohh, keep thinking of something to say... Be clever, be cute....Perhaps post a picture....Good boy.

SEXSPHERE

Ive watched it in person using my own eyes dude! 2006 GTI vs 2000 911.. Theorywise.. STFU


I dont think my C320 would beat it..... C230k? No chance..

SEXSPHERE

Where did you get 7.2 from? http://www.modernracer.com/mercedesbenzc230.html its 8.0 secs(automatic)..

SeaCoupe

Drex, you took away the reply.

No worries, He can have the last word. Sauce....Spoon,....




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drexappeal

Still there. I just took out the picture in your response.

SeaCoupe

You have a tough job to do. I wouldn't want it. But hearty congrats. Now, How do I fit a Toyota MR2 turbo in a X1/9?

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BlackLiquorish8

So who was that tough guy today in a very clean light blue C230 sports sedan that tried to race me???? I was in loaner and still smoked him. After i did over a buck he backed off. Anyways ya i think the GTi would def smoke a C230.

anthuny85

i know this is a little off topic..but i was on the fwy after toying with an STI intown..and we went at it on the fwy, he only pulled on me about 2-3 cars at 120mph i think if we kept going and didnt hit traffic i would have caught up cuz i was pulling up on him, i have the v6 06 model, i think the 05 vs a gti would be a even match depending on driver and a few breather mods to make up for weight to tq.

BadAssC230k

sti's, off the lot, at 300 ponies, pull mid 13's in quarter mile
chipped and exhaust gti's pull mid to high 14's in quarter.


STi would eat a GTI... as a snack

Outland

Time to eat your words.

A 911 runs to 60 in 5 flat...even an older one. The quarter mile drops in 13ish seconds. The GTI is running to 60 in 7.2, the quarter in low 15s. Your candy *** friend in the 911 can't drive, or the car is seriously down on power.

Everyone thinks theyve got a fast car when they don't loose by much, but the truth is, it takes a MUCH faster vehicle to make a big gap.

..The big bad C320 is 6.9 seconds to 60, the C230 is a third of a second off that pace. A pullied C230 is probably low 6s to 60. Newer C230's aren't as quick...if you have the V6 C230...don't pick a fight with anyone.