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Old 09-30-2002, 06:01 PM
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so any dyno yet?
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I have not gotten a dyno on it yet. But from the testing that was done will be 30% more effective than the stock intercooler. I expect that it will show at least 10 HP and a wider power band.

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Are these being sold by Renntech, you or Turbonetics/Spearco?
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Renntech is selling them
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If you get more than 7 will the price lower, or is that the final price? if you dont get 7, say 5 will the price be higher, or will they just not make them? ... cuz we need dyno charts to decide if its worth the money! and I think i speak for everyone on that
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I only have access to a clayton dyno every one will freek out if I post a dyno from it. It records road HP I have gotten 115 hp from stock coupes on it.
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we need a dyno for that kind of $$$, at least I do!
Old 10-04-2002, 08:28 PM
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Here's the Math

Randy:

Estimated effectiveness of the intercooler is as follows:

Temp. In: 265 deg. F
Temp. Out: 160 deg. F

Pressure In: 10 psi
Pressure Drop: 0.25 psi

Ambient Air Temp: 75 deg. F

Let me know if you have any other questions.


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Old 10-05-2002, 12:42 PM
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Dyno

Here is run three compaired to the trird run in aug, Dyno room temp is 106. third run was stronger that the first. I'm headed to Orlando for Fright Nights so I will get back with you on Monday.

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was that car stock vrs intercooler, or did it have any other mod on it?
Old 10-05-2002, 02:25 PM
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15whp just from the intercooler? The efficacy of the stock intercoller must be very bad.
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that must have been a stock car. I pullied coupe will range anywhere from 190-200rwhp. Some cars are just stronger than others. While some may dyno stock at 165 like above some could be 170 or160 . It also depends on temp, altitude, etc. For example a coupe at 5000ft at 97% humidity, and a 91F temp would dyno lower than a coupe at sealevel, with 50% munidity and 65F. Most dyno's will correct for it though.

The intercooler looks promising. I think it will yield more power to the pullied cars.
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The reason his before is so bad is because it's a third run, that's normal for our coupes to drop at least 10hp in three back to back runs to redline. Remember, his original run wasn't that impressive before and it's 106 degrees so a 15hp drop would seem appropriate. You normally run the car once on a dyno to redline to get the numbers you want but reality is that you are going to run to redline 3 times in a 1/4 mile run or getting on an on ramp. The question is do you put in the intercooler or misters. Misters are the cheap way with a $100 controller and maybe $50 of miscellaneous parts but then you have to keep refilling it with water.

Also if it's 106 in the room, will you get the same 15hp in a normal 70-80 degree environment? Florida is hotter than the rest of the country.
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Sounds expensive to use NO2 or CO2 to cool intake air. Maybe good for racing where you only have a few runs but a more effecient intercooler will work all the time. Also people use misters directly into the intake for cool air temps.
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
The reason his before is so bad is because it's a third run, that's normal for our coupes to drop at least 10hp in three back to back runs to redline. Remember, his original run wasn't that impressive before and it's 106 degrees so a 15hp drop would seem appropriate. You normally run the car once on a dyno to redline to get the numbers you want but reality is that you are going to run to redline 3 times in a 1/4 mile run or getting on an on ramp. The question is do you put in the intercooler or misters. Misters are the cheap way with a $100 controller and maybe $50 of miscellaneous parts but then you have to keep refilling it with water.

Also if it's 106 in the room, will you get the same 15hp in a normal 70-80 degree environment? Florida is hotter than the rest of the country.
If you look at the end of the run the power band extends to the red line were before you can really see a big drop off in the last 200 rpm. My car allways tested low in hp which sucks but every car will be diffrent. I will try and get some track times. 1/8 mile is the best I can do in jax. The mister will work but it has special needs, water and they drop allot of water some track will not let you run them. The c02 foggers are the only soulution that can reduce the temp below the ambent temp, but they need refills.

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Originally posted by eason
15whp just from the intercooler? The efficacy of the stock intercoller must be very bad.
I feel that the intercooler will add a solid 10-15 hp to the car and also cut the heat caused hp loss to 5hp in extended runs so that would be a net gain of 25 hp over stock on an extended run (heat soaked) to the crank.

The stock intercooler is not a very good one they used only enough to get what they wanted, and it's even worst if you have a pulley kit on the car.

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Renncpe,

Why do you only gains 180 hp/ 199lbs-ft. even with intercooler? With pulley, i got 192 hp/ 219 lbs-ft. and without IC and fuel regulator. But with Fuel regulator, i get 188 hp/ 210 lbs.-ft. because the engine run richer and with out IC but the ECU still pull back 4.5 degree of timing. My point is that, i gain more hp and tq. then you with IC.
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Originally posted by linh
Renncpe,

Why do you only gains 180 hp/ 199lbs-ft. even with intercooler? With pulley, i got 192 hp/ 219 lbs-ft. and without IC and fuel regulator. But with Fuel regulator, i get 188 hp/ 210 lbs.-ft. because the engine run richer and with out IC but the ECU still pull back 4.5 degree of timing. My point is that, i gain more hp and tq. then you with IC.
My car started with less HP than any other coupe I have seen tested. It sucks but there is nothing I can do about that. I have seen stock cars test at 176 rwhp. I wish mine started that way. Plus I'm testing in 100 plus temp last run was 106 in the dyno room, I'm sure that if I were runing in 75 deg I would be better.

Randy

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sorry for being lazy to flip through the pages...

how much for the group buy? and what is the retail price?
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do I have one too?

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15whp just from the intercooler? The efficacy of the stock intercoller must be very bad.



Does the 2002 C200K come with a factory intercooler?
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Re: do I have one too?

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Does the 2002 C200K come with a factory intercooler?
Yes, all supercharged MBs do have an intercooler. You can tell its supercharged by the K at the end of the model number.

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