jgsx

So you had the factory fiber optic Bose? I'm still thinking of how the teleaid output was retained

tromar1

Yes...i had the fiber optic Bose. However, the door speaker are just that...spearker. So, my installer simply connected wires from the Z1 to the speakers. I'm sure I could discuss it with him ad nauseam and figure out the logic behind it...but hey, ulitimately it isn't that important to me since it works.

jgsx

Yes, that's what I'm confused about. If he connected the Z1 directly to the speakers, he completely bipassed the fibre optic network that the stock Bose system uses, so I'm trying to see how the Teleaid is outputting audio to your speaker wires.

jgsx

Ok, I looked into this some more. The Teleaid system's speaker is completely independent of the audio system. It uses its own speaker in the rear view mirror/light area. So no, you will not lose the teleaid feature completely, but you will lose the ability to enter numbers.

killahbean

Originally Posted by tromar1 View Post
Another matter: The AVIC Z1 tells me when to turn and the name of the street to turn onto. If the Eclipse doesn't do that then how is it better?

I would still take the eclipse over the Z1 any day.....I just love eclipse for some reason

flush

I was told by the local Car Toys shop that even if I did get the Z1, i'll need to replace all the stock Bose speakers due to a non-standard design. True / False?

jgsx

I saw both, and I thought that the Z1's graphic navigation was 1 generation ahead of the eclipse

jgsx

Kinda in between. You'll lose the Bose subwoofer. The Bose speakers are 2ohm, and you CAN wire them directly to the Z1's built in amp, and they'll work, but the quality won't be that good. You can use a level converter to allow you to turn it up to max without trouble.

The better way is to replace the Bose amp with an amp that can handle 2ohm speakers, and drive the speakers with that.

tromar1

Not true...take it from a member. I have replaced both OEM headunits in the C240 and ML350 with AVIC Z1s. I still kept my standard Bose door speakers. The sub, however, was thrown in the trash. We replaced the amp for the door speakers and added another amp for the sub.

tromar1

Not a bad choice...however, I prefer the Z1 for the same reason jgsx noted. The nav screen/functions were better IMO. My second choice would have been the Kenwood (hard drive aside which is coming next year for the Kenwood). Then again, diff strokes for diff folks.

tromar1

Actually, I think the speaker for the C240 was under the dash by the front passenger (if I remember correctly). For the ML, it was under the front passenger seat facing towards the door.

Regarding enterning #s...you may be correct. However, the Z1 has a number pad...i'm not certain if the system for teleaid is using tone as a method for picking up the dialing. However, if a live person answered, you could simply tell the numbers or tell them your issues without needing to enter numbers...once again, I am admittedly a novice and don't know for sure...

jgsx

The Z1's input pad will not work with Teleaid. Teleaid is useless anyways, so no loss

noreaga0221

How do the stock speakers sound powered by the headunit? Or did you upgrade them?

cla 1000

1) No. I am using the stock bose speakers.
2) The speed sensor (VSS) is conected. You will have to take the fuse box out, at the engine compartment and connect the wire for the VSS at...https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...t=speed+sensor
3)No. The fiber optics are history. We had to bring the speaker wires from the head unit(AVIC D2), in the back to the bose amp. Over there we took the bose amp out and conected the wires from the D2 to the wires thar are going to each speaker, minus the center dash speaker, and the subwoofer in the back. So the head unit powers the 4 speakers in the car right now.
We replaced the BOSE amp with another 2 OHM apm, to power the bose sub.
That is all.
4) No erors. When you go in the dash menu, where the audio feature is, it sais NO AUDIO.
I am still waiting for the steering wheel interface to get here.
I hope this helps.

roffey

I just bought an Alpine IVA-W200 which is close to the dual din deck you installed in this tutorial. When I took it to an audio ahop for them to install it they said it was going to be around $700-800 to install. They said that I needed an amp and cross over wires or something I'm assuming to keep the functionality of the fiberoptics like the volume control on the steering wheel. All I want is that deck to work properly, play my songs and videos and power my sub correctly. Do you think I could pint out the tutorial and give it to them because they do not seem to understand what I want or theyre just trying to rip me off and make like $800 for a simple install for someone who knows what there doing.

jgsx

The steering wheel controls have nothing to do with the fiber optics -- that is CAN bus.

If your car has fiber optics (not all do), you have to ditch them. If you have fiber optics, the best you can salvage is the stock speakers. If you have fiber optics, you'll need a new sub and amp.

roffey

Alright I already have aftermarket subwoofer and amp so I should be good right?
and how do you find out if your car has fiber optics?

jgsx

If you have Bose, you have fiber

roffey

Alright, I have bose, dammit! lol but like I said before I already have an aftermarket sub and amp
JL Audio 12w7 Subwoofer
Hifonics Zeus ZXi1006 Amplifier
so i'm looking to just get this deck working (Alpine IVA-W200) do I still need these cross overs and what not.

jgsx

It is possible to drive the stock speakers (minus the sub) with the headunit. You'll need to run the outputs to the stock amp location (the stock amp will be removed), then attach them there. You should really just get a new amp, and it must be capable of handling 2ohm speakers (the factory speakers are 2ohm).

Midnight Koop

where did this double din kit come from? from the picture it doesnt look like the american international kit:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...e=UTF8&seller=

i think it looks much better! what are the details of this setup?? i want!

jgsx

That isn't double din. That is much larger.

sanf

Link

What do you guys think of this set for my 07 C230. I was thinking of going double din but the metra kit only comes in single din with a pocket for 05 - 07 W203. I could mod the dash kit.. but not sure.

C24owner

Just mod the metra kit.. Take a look at the aftermarket/diy thread there a diy for an Avic Z1

jgsx

Yup, just cut the clip in the metra kit and it becomes a double din