DIY installation of AVIC & other aftermarket HU's for W203 (Warning! lots of images!)
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Even with an MBA I can still be dumb sometimes...
If the person spoke to me when I pressed the button, then how is it that I'm "completely removing any way for it to output" to my speakers? In both the C240 and ML350 I press the button and received responses.
Maybe if I had attempted to do the install myself then it would as you said. However, I had it professionally done. I saw a series of test done to ensure that I wouldn't receive any error codes. During one of the test, the SRS light came on. My installer then knew what not to mess with. I should note that I didn't remove my Bose Speaker, just bypass the amp and remove the factory sub. Replaced the amp, added another amp for the sub and no factory OEM functions were missing.
If the person spoke to me when I pressed the button, then how is it that I'm "completely removing any way for it to output" to my speakers? In both the C240 and ML350 I press the button and received responses.
Maybe if I had attempted to do the install myself then it would as you said. However, I had it professionally done. I saw a series of test done to ensure that I wouldn't receive any error codes. During one of the test, the SRS light came on. My installer then knew what not to mess with. I should note that I didn't remove my Bose Speaker, just bypass the amp and remove the factory sub. Replaced the amp, added another amp for the sub and no factory OEM functions were missing.
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Yes...i had the fiber optic Bose. However, the door speaker are just that...spearker. So, my installer simply connected wires from the Z1 to the speakers. I'm sure I could discuss it with him ad nauseam and figure out the logic behind it...but hey, ulitimately it isn't that important to me since it works.
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Yes...i had the fiber optic Bose. However, the door speaker are just that...spearker. So, my installer simply connected wires from the Z1 to the speakers. I'm sure I could discuss it with him ad nauseam and figure out the logic behind it...but hey, ulitimately it isn't that important to me since it works.
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Ok, I looked into this some more. The Teleaid system's speaker is completely independent of the audio system. It uses its own speaker in the rear view mirror/light area. So no, you will not lose the teleaid feature completely, but you will lose the ability to enter numbers.
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Originally Posted by tromar1 View Post
Another matter: The AVIC Z1 tells me when to turn and the name of the street to turn onto. If the Eclipse doesn't do that then how is it better?
I would still take the eclipse over the Z1 any day.....I just love eclipse for some reason
Another matter: The AVIC Z1 tells me when to turn and the name of the street to turn onto. If the Eclipse doesn't do that then how is it better?
I would still take the eclipse over the Z1 any day.....I just love eclipse for some reason
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Originally Posted by tromar1 View Post
Another matter: The AVIC Z1 tells me when to turn and the name of the street to turn onto. If the Eclipse doesn't do that then how is it better?
I would still take the eclipse over the Z1 any day.....I just love eclipse for some reason
Another matter: The AVIC Z1 tells me when to turn and the name of the street to turn onto. If the Eclipse doesn't do that then how is it better?
I would still take the eclipse over the Z1 any day.....I just love eclipse for some reason
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The better way is to replace the Bose amp with an amp that can handle 2ohm speakers, and drive the speakers with that.
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Not true...take it from a member. I have replaced both OEM headunits in the C240 and ML350 with AVIC Z1s. I still kept my standard Bose door speakers. The sub, however, was thrown in the trash. We replaced the amp for the door speakers and added another amp for the sub.
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Originally Posted by tromar1 View Post
Another matter: The AVIC Z1 tells me when to turn and the name of the street to turn onto. If the Eclipse doesn't do that then how is it better?
I would still take the eclipse over the Z1 any day.....I just love eclipse for some reason
Another matter: The AVIC Z1 tells me when to turn and the name of the street to turn onto. If the Eclipse doesn't do that then how is it better?
I would still take the eclipse over the Z1 any day.....I just love eclipse for some reason
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Ok, I looked into this some more. The Teleaid system's speaker is completely independent of the audio system. It uses its own speaker in the rear view mirror/light area. So no, you will not lose the teleaid feature completely, but you will lose the ability to enter numbers.
Regarding enterning #s...you may be correct. However, the Z1 has a number pad...i'm not certain if the system for teleaid is using tone as a method for picking up the dialing. However, if a live person answered, you could simply tell the numbers or tell them your issues without needing to enter numbers...once again, I am admittedly a novice and don't know for sure...
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Originally Posted by dmitc16
Great Job on your Car! I am looking into getting an avic z1 but i'm really confused after reading all posts.
Did you rewire you entire car?
1)new door speakers, and amp?
2)what about the speed sensor
3)Can you plug and play directly into the fiber optcis or not?
4)what type of errors do your car display?
Did you rewire you entire car?
1)new door speakers, and amp?
2)what about the speed sensor
3)Can you plug and play directly into the fiber optcis or not?
4)what type of errors do your car display?
2) The speed sensor (VSS) is conected. You will have to take the fuse box out, at the engine compartment and connect the wire for the VSS at...https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...t=speed+sensor
3)No. The fiber optics are history. We had to bring the speaker wires from the head unit(AVIC D2), in the back to the bose amp. Over there we took the bose amp out and conected the wires from the D2 to the wires thar are going to each speaker, minus the center dash speaker, and the subwoofer in the back. So the head unit powers the 4 speakers in the car right now.
We replaced the BOSE amp with another 2 OHM apm, to power the bose sub.
That is all.
4) No erors. When you go in the dash menu, where the audio feature is, it sais NO AUDIO.
I am still waiting for the steering wheel interface to get here.
I hope this helps.
Last edited by cla 1000; Dec 22, 2006 at 02:51 PM.
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I just bought an Alpine IVA-W200 which is close to the dual din deck you installed in this tutorial. When I took it to an audio ahop for them to install it they said it was going to be around $700-800 to install. They said that I needed an amp and cross over wires or something I'm assuming to keep the functionality of the fiberoptics like the volume control on the steering wheel. All I want is that deck to work properly, play my songs and videos and power my sub correctly. Do you think I could pint out the tutorial and give it to them because they do not seem to understand what I want or theyre just trying to rip me off and make like $800 for a simple install for someone who knows what there doing.
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I just bought an Alpine IVA-W200 which is close to the dual din deck you installed in this tutorial. When I took it to an audio ahop for them to install it they said it was going to be around $700-800 to install. They said that I needed an amp and cross over wires or something I'm assuming to keep the functionality of the fiberoptics like the volume control on the steering wheel. All I want is that deck to work properly, play my songs and videos and power my sub correctly. Do you think I could pint out the tutorial and give it to them because they do not seem to understand what I want or theyre just trying to rip me off and make like $800 for a simple install for someone who knows what there doing.
If your car has fiber optics (not all do), you have to ditch them. If you have fiber optics, the best you can salvage is the stock speakers. If you have fiber optics, you'll need a new sub and amp.
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The steering wheel controls have nothing to do with the fiber optics -- that is CAN bus.
If your car has fiber optics (not all do), you have to ditch them. If you have fiber optics, the best you can salvage is the stock speakers. If you have fiber optics, you'll need a new sub and amp.
If your car has fiber optics (not all do), you have to ditch them. If you have fiber optics, the best you can salvage is the stock speakers. If you have fiber optics, you'll need a new sub and amp.
and how do you find out if your car has fiber optics?
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Alright, I have bose, dammit! lol but like I said before I already have an aftermarket sub and amp
JL Audio 12w7 Subwoofer
Hifonics Zeus ZXi1006 Amplifier
so i'm looking to just get this deck working (Alpine IVA-W200) do I still need these cross overs and what not.
JL Audio 12w7 Subwoofer
Hifonics Zeus ZXi1006 Amplifier
so i'm looking to just get this deck working (Alpine IVA-W200) do I still need these cross overs and what not.
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It is possible to drive the stock speakers (minus the sub) with the headunit. You'll need to run the outputs to the stock amp location (the stock amp will be removed), then attach them there. You should really just get a new amp, and it must be capable of handling 2ohm speakers (the factory speakers are 2ohm).
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...e=UTF8&seller=
i think it looks much better! what are the details of this setup?? i want!
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where did this double din kit come from? from the picture it doesnt look like the american international kit:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...e=UTF8&seller=
i think it looks much better! what are the details of this setup?? i want!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...e=UTF8&seller=
i think it looks much better! what are the details of this setup?? i want!
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What do you guys think of this set for my 07 C230. I was thinking of going double din but the metra kit only comes in single din with a pocket for 05 - 07 W203. I could mod the dash kit.. but not sure.
What do you guys think of this set for my 07 C230. I was thinking of going double din but the metra kit only comes in single din with a pocket for 05 - 07 W203. I could mod the dash kit.. but not sure.
