"The C-Class Forum" Bashing
#52
It's a bit more "lively" in here compared to the other sections of MBWorld with the exception of maybe the E55 forum. Jangy is entertainment.
There's not a lot of flaming on this forum but a lot of STFF thrown out at others (sometimes justified, sometimes not). For the most part there's a lot of constructive criticism and not many direct insults. At times, some members do get on their high horse in defending their loyalty to MB but that's to be expected of any forum and DEFINITELY not as bad here compared to E46Fanatics. "M3>all; I'll beat you in the twisties"
There is one thing that will make anyone look bad whether forum related or not: Improper grammar and incorrect spelling.
Sure the typo's will happen but the improper use of a word such as there/their/they're is annoying!
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There's not a lot of flaming on this forum but a lot of STFF thrown out at others (sometimes justified, sometimes not). For the most part there's a lot of constructive criticism and not many direct insults. At times, some members do get on their high horse in defending their loyalty to MB but that's to be expected of any forum and DEFINITELY not as bad here compared to E46Fanatics. "M3>all; I'll beat you in the twisties"
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There is one thing that will make anyone look bad whether forum related or not: Improper grammar and incorrect spelling.
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Again, if you value someone based on spelling, you have A Lot of learning to do.
But to each there/their/they're own. I don't care if you are annoyed.
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But yeah, to each and there/their/they're own.
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That's fine you don't care that I'm annoyed nor do I expect you to. I'm just voicing my opinion. I don't necessarily "value" people based on their spelling but I can tell you that some people do. Hopefully, when you come across those type of people they aren't someone with hiring authority at a company you wish to work for.
But yeah, to each and there/their/they're own.![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
But yeah, to each and there/their/they're own.
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Thanks for taking my comment with maturity. I wake up each morning telling myself how lucky I am. I work for me! Self employed. I know there/their/they're are more of us out there/their/they're....
And, yes I did look up the definitions of each word. Now to just remember them.
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Thanks for taking my comment with maturity. I wake up each morning telling myself how lucky I am. I work for me! Self employed. I know there/their/they're are more of us out there/their/they're....
And, yes I did look up the definitions of each word. Now to just remember them.
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And, yes I did look up the definitions of each word. Now to just remember them.
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I just finished reading this entire thread.Firefox(browser) has spell check built into it.To the OP(original poster)thank you for starting this thread.To "drex" thank you for your contribution as well.It seems that this thread has become exactly what the OP was referring to in the first place.I'm relatively new here and I really enjoy "collecting" information about my car,so I can make the best possible decisions as to what I want to do to my personal vehicle.
thank you to those who do offer advice and information,
Phin
Edit:btw I'm a lousy speller
thank you to those who do offer advice and information,
Phin
Edit:btw I'm a lousy speller
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I just finished reading this entire thread.Firefox(browser) has spell check built into it.To the OP(original poster)thank you for starting this thread.To "drex" thank you for your contribution as well.It seems that this thread has become exactly what the OP was referring to in the first place.I'm relatively new here and I really enjoy "collecting" information about my car,so I can make the best possible decisions as to what I want to do to my personal vehicle.
thank you to those who do offer advice and information,
Phin
Edit:btw I'm a lousy speller![Cool](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
thank you to those who do offer advice and information,
Phin
Edit:btw I'm a lousy speller
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#61
Gee, I wonder why this forum gets bashed... when ever I post I rarely get responds and when I do its STFF or some other gay ****. There can only be so many things to talk about in a C-Class forum... wtf does it matter if they get asked more then once. Also, there seems to be a clique on this forum and all you people do in the clique is ride each others ****. Also, although I rarely post (you read why, no help or lack or response) I browse this forum everyday to see the same things being talked about but when a new member posts something he gets hated on. Just my two cents.
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Gee, I wonder why this forum gets bashed... when ever I post I rarely get responds and when I do its STFF or some other gay ****. There can only be so many things to talk about in a C-Class forum... wtf does it matter if they get asked more then once. Also, there seems to be a clique on this forum and all you people do in the clique is ride each others ****. Also, although I rarely post (you read why, no help or lack or response) I browse this forum everyday to see the same things being talked about but when a new member posts something he gets hated on. Just my two cents.
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To my understanding, the STFF is thrown out to reduce kinda keep the forum organized and not have so many threads on the same thing, basically making it easier to find info when it's needed. The STFF actually used to get thrown out more in the past, i've noticed that it has actually calmed down because people have brought up the issue before. Also, this forum is definately not the only forum that the STFF gets thrown out in. It may just get thrown out the most in here because its one of the more active ones. Second to what? Just OT right?
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I don't know who told you to STFF, but they had a good reason. I know this because I actually did a tutorial on removing the door panels that included pictures. So this person telling you to STFF actually was trying to help you out because that thread about the door panels would've been the best place to go. Now i can see how just saying "stff" can come off as a little rude. What they probably should've said was something along the lines of "stff, there is a thread that describes in detail with pictures how to remove the door panels which will allow you to gain access to the speaker." So, we are not always trying to be rude, we are actually trying to help. I actually think that the thread for that is in the DIY sticky, and if it isn't it should be.
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I don't know who told you to STFF, but they had a good reason. I know this because I actually did a tutorial on removing the door panels that included pictures. So this person telling you to STFF actually was trying to help you out because that thread about the door panels would've been the best place to go. Now i can see how just saying "stff" can come off as a little rude. What they probably should've said was something along the lines of "stff, there is a thread that describes in detail with pictures how to remove the door panels which will allow you to gain access to the speaker." So, we are not always trying to be rude, we are actually trying to help. I actually think that the thread for that is in the DIY sticky, and if it isn't it should be.
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roffey –
Please do not take personally the perceived treatment you have received thus far from MBWorld. Feel free to post should you feel the need and desire to do so.
I’m still a new guy here. Thanks to my lucky stars, I have a managed to acquire yet another Mercedes-Benz. How fortunate we all are to enjoy that pleasure. I, as do many other members, log on to “forget about life” for a while. The technically oriented posts are most interesting to me, but I still read about the license plate light bulb modifications, as well.
I have posted threads or replies that, while at the time may have seemed appropriate, were, in retrospect, ill-conceived or perhaps interpreted differently from their intended context. I’ve taken the heat and barbs hurled my direction. Nonetheless, I still come back for more.
There are many fine people who frequent and post to this forum. Please be one of ‘em!
Please do not take personally the perceived treatment you have received thus far from MBWorld. Feel free to post should you feel the need and desire to do so.
I’m still a new guy here. Thanks to my lucky stars, I have a managed to acquire yet another Mercedes-Benz. How fortunate we all are to enjoy that pleasure. I, as do many other members, log on to “forget about life” for a while. The technically oriented posts are most interesting to me, but I still read about the license plate light bulb modifications, as well.
I have posted threads or replies that, while at the time may have seemed appropriate, were, in retrospect, ill-conceived or perhaps interpreted differently from their intended context. I’ve taken the heat and barbs hurled my direction. Nonetheless, I still come back for more.
There are many fine people who frequent and post to this forum. Please be one of ‘em!
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the problem with flippant, rolling eyes STFF comments is that this board has
an atrocious search function. it is poor and even if you have a known and
verified post visible....and you use otherwise quality key words, the search
engine doesn't pull it up and displays that annoying "Sorry - no matches...."
same holds true if you type in known keywords with the poster's name
previously one who would sigh and tell folks to search, I dont think this
response is really that constructive anymore. instead, I *will* post
direct link or key words which i know will work.
until this feature is fixed, it's somewhat disingenuous for a moderator to
casually post STFF comments and who should either be more helpful....or,
help create a viable index or stickies. even over time, stickies get stale as
newer info should be added to supplement the outdated information.
ironically, some folks who have high post counts...as if they possess MB
knowledge, wisdom, etc....benefit from this count by posting STFF comments.
an atrocious search function. it is poor and even if you have a known and
verified post visible....and you use otherwise quality key words, the search
engine doesn't pull it up and displays that annoying "Sorry - no matches...."
same holds true if you type in known keywords with the poster's name
previously one who would sigh and tell folks to search, I dont think this
response is really that constructive anymore. instead, I *will* post
direct link or key words which i know will work.
until this feature is fixed, it's somewhat disingenuous for a moderator to
casually post STFF comments and who should either be more helpful....or,
help create a viable index or stickies. even over time, stickies get stale as
newer info should be added to supplement the outdated information.
ironically, some folks who have high post counts...as if they possess MB
knowledge, wisdom, etc....benefit from this count by posting STFF comments.
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My opinion on the matter is completely middle-of-the-road.
On the one hand, I have seen a lot of people ask questions that are painstakingly obvious, answered in a sticky or easily obtainable with a search.
On the other hand, I've seen a lot of people throw STFF's out like they're going outta style.
I propose we discourage the use of "STFF", and instead post a comment along the lines of "Try searching for 'door panel removal' and you will find your answer" or "See this post: https://mbworld.org.....". Bottom line is that if you know where the post is, it would be helpful for you to let us all know.
One majorly adverse effect of "STFF" is that often the person does a search and finds what they need, but they never update their post. Then their unanswered post shows up in the search results of someone else's search for the same issue, adding to the frusteration. It would be helpful for everyone to post a link to the thread where they found their answer.
On the one hand, I have seen a lot of people ask questions that are painstakingly obvious, answered in a sticky or easily obtainable with a search.
On the other hand, I've seen a lot of people throw STFF's out like they're going outta style.
I propose we discourage the use of "STFF", and instead post a comment along the lines of "Try searching for 'door panel removal' and you will find your answer" or "See this post: https://mbworld.org.....". Bottom line is that if you know where the post is, it would be helpful for you to let us all know.
One majorly adverse effect of "STFF" is that often the person does a search and finds what they need, but they never update their post. Then their unanswered post shows up in the search results of someone else's search for the same issue, adding to the frusteration. It would be helpful for everyone to post a link to the thread where they found their answer.
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My opinion on the matter is completely middle-of-the-road.
On the one hand, I have seen a lot of people ask questions that are painstakingly obvious, answered in a sticky or easily obtainable with a search.
On the other hand, I've seen a lot of people throw STFF's out like they're going outta style.
I propose we discourage the use of "STFF", and instead post a comment along the lines of "Try searching for 'door panel removal' and you will find your answer" or "See this post: https://mbworld.org.....". Bottom line is that if you know where the post is, it would be helpful for you to let us all know.
On the one hand, I have seen a lot of people ask questions that are painstakingly obvious, answered in a sticky or easily obtainable with a search.
On the other hand, I've seen a lot of people throw STFF's out like they're going outta style.
I propose we discourage the use of "STFF", and instead post a comment along the lines of "Try searching for 'door panel removal' and you will find your answer" or "See this post: https://mbworld.org.....". Bottom line is that if you know where the post is, it would be helpful for you to let us all know.
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IMO, the technical aspect of the C class forum is small. What we talk about most is bodykits, rims, lights, service etc. Rarely would you see a thread about an engine rebuild (with pics), what are the specs for the valve springs, I need to get matching cams, just did an engine swap etc. Besides a few knowledgeable DIY'ers, most people pay instead of doing. They just don't have the technical know hows. I came from the Honda crowd where I've learned to basically do everything on my car from engine swaps, head rebuild, etc basically build a car from a bare shell. The forums are helpful because people have the answers. But here on the w203 forum its mostly appearance mods discussed many of times because members do not search and expect to be spoonfed. How many "error message when installing xenons" are we expected to see?
Bashing doesn't seem harsh in this forum as others (I've been on worst ones). C classes are easily obtainable, the chassis has been in existance for 6 years. The w203 isn't exclusive anymore (not like it was but the people in the lower income bracket can easily get them, no offense to anyone).
Bashing doesn't seem harsh in this forum as others (I've been on worst ones). C classes are easily obtainable, the chassis has been in existance for 6 years. The w203 isn't exclusive anymore (not like it was but the people in the lower income bracket can easily get them, no offense to anyone).
#71
wow, people bashing each other because of their "car caliber"?
This is like bazarro world compared to the Saab forums i hang around.. where everyone is pretty much automatically friends because they all drive Saabs
I'm looking at the c230 coupe because of its practicality. Hatchback, high power 4 cyl, solid feel and comfortable ride.... I didn't even factor the fact that "I'd be driving a high caliber car" into the equation...
But i guess its the Saab-esque practicality of the car that attracted me to it
I seriously thought the brand snobbyness associated with Merc owners was all jealousy from poor people, but I'm quickly learning that people do really buy Mercs just so they can appear to have a certain social status.... And here I'm referring to the several chaps that said "Sure I could have gotten a better car, but i wanted a Mercedes" ....
And for the people that buy the cars to have a status mark... Cars say nothing about your "Status"... People in the trailer park aways from me drive nicer cars than i do, even though my annual household income is probably 5 times higher than theirs.. I'm going off on a tangent now....
and I'm fully aware of Saab owners bashing 9-7x and 9-2x owners.. because those really are just re badge jobs, but my point is, saying a c230 isn't a Merc because it doesn't cost enough is just plain ridicules, and its probably the most stuck up ignorant thing I've ever heard
This is like bazarro world compared to the Saab forums i hang around.. where everyone is pretty much automatically friends because they all drive Saabs
I'm looking at the c230 coupe because of its practicality. Hatchback, high power 4 cyl, solid feel and comfortable ride.... I didn't even factor the fact that "I'd be driving a high caliber car" into the equation...
But i guess its the Saab-esque practicality of the car that attracted me to it
I seriously thought the brand snobbyness associated with Merc owners was all jealousy from poor people, but I'm quickly learning that people do really buy Mercs just so they can appear to have a certain social status.... And here I'm referring to the several chaps that said "Sure I could have gotten a better car, but i wanted a Mercedes" ....
And for the people that buy the cars to have a status mark... Cars say nothing about your "Status"... People in the trailer park aways from me drive nicer cars than i do, even though my annual household income is probably 5 times higher than theirs.. I'm going off on a tangent now....
and I'm fully aware of Saab owners bashing 9-7x and 9-2x owners.. because those really are just re badge jobs, but my point is, saying a c230 isn't a Merc because it doesn't cost enough is just plain ridicules, and its probably the most stuck up ignorant thing I've ever heard
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To take it a step further, I've actually seen a CLS63 owner bash a CLS500 owner as being "out of their league" or some such. The class distinction is quite granular.