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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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245 is pretty wide in the front. you sure you dont have 275 in the rear??? out of all wheels i thought hre would have made you the correct offset.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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245 is pretty wide in the front. you sure you dont have 275 in the rear??? out of all wheels i thought hre would have made you the correct offset.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's 265. I can't even see the 'Michellin' brand on the tyre. It's all gone because of the damn rubbing.
Actually, Darwin told me to cut the offset to get a higher offset. But he said the rims might crack because the bolts would be too long. I don't really understand what he said though, but it's pretty much like it. btw, are u indo(SF CREW)?
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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i think H&R springs are notorious for uneven rear drops, my civic was lowered more on the rear left and ive noticed this too on my benz now, the rear right sits higher and the rear left looks more tucked. so im guessing thats why you rub, try a bigger pad to even it out like a #3.
I see. Darwin from Carlab told me that most-or all-European cars have an uneven alignment(I think it's only for the rear wheels), meaning that either the rear left or the rear right wheel will be too 'out'. My rear left wheel that rubs is more tucked from the rear right wheel. It s eems that we have the same problem..
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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shave the bumper where it meets the quarter panel. Most likely that's what is rubbing on your tires.
Do you know how much it costs to shave the bumper?

By the way, is there anyone wants to sell Toyo/Falken tyres that fit my rims?
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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I see. Darwin from Carlab told me that most-or all-European cars have an uneven alignment(I think it's only for the rear wheels), meaning that either the rear left or the rear right wheel will be too 'out'. My rear left wheel that rubs is more tucked from the rear right wheel. It s eems that we have the same problem..
Funny, i have the same problem.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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I thought HRE make their wheels with the most perfect offset and that it should not rub. Cause I heard when u order HRE, they will even ask you what suspension the car is running on. As I see your sig, you have 245 in the front and 265 in the back. I have 265 in the back too but my car doesn't rub at the rear. Did u brought ur HRE used? Cause I don't know why u put 245 in the front when the most ideal is 235. Good luck and keep us update.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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I'm running 19's 265 in the rear Toyo's without any rubbing and that's with 4 passengers and with Hr springs, back wheels are some what tucked but looks and rides great.
If the offset is correct and you have the correct alignments done as well as the correct camber then you should have been fine (Not the case here),
since you've already rolled your fenders and the cost for a new set (4) of tires would be between 700.00 - 950.00 (Toyo's) maybe you should have your rear fender's pulled, I have a friend who was having the same problem and he went to Azevedomotorsports here in NJ one of the best custom tuners on the east coast , after they check out the car they preceeded to pull his fender's out (I think about 1/4 inch) and or maybe more I'm not sure, there was no damage to the paint and you could never tell he had anything done (Flawless work) at a cost of $160.50, his car ride's and look's great no problems 6 month's and counting.
Whatever you decide be careful and have the work done by a shop you can trust and you have seen their work (Make sure they heat under the fender's before pulling or the paint will crack).
Goodluck.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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I thought HRE make their wheels with the most perfect offset and that it should not rub. Cause I heard when u order HRE, they will even ask you what suspension the car is running on. As I see your sig, you have 245 in the front and 265 in the back. I have 265 in the back too but my car doesn't rub at the rear. Did u brought ur HRE used? Cause I don't know why u put 245 in the front when the most ideal is 235. Good luck and keep us update.
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Yes I bought it used, but it came from a C240. So I think it has the same specs with my c320. The front tyres don't rub at all, even with one passenger. The problem is just the rear left tyre... Maybe the problem is that I'm using Michellin tyres that have a rectangular shape(thick at the edges)..
Thanks dude,,
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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I'm running 19's 265 in the rear Toyo's without any rubbing and that's with 4 passengers and with Hr springs, back wheels are some what tucked but looks and rides great.
If the offset is correct and you have the correct alignments done as well as the correct camber then you should have been fine (Not the case here),
since you've already rolled your fenders and the cost for a new set (4) of tires would be between 700.00 - 950.00 (Toyo's) maybe you should have your rear fender's pulled, I have a friend who was having the same problem and he went to Azevedomotorsports here in NJ one of the best custom tuners on the east coast , after they check out the car they preceeded to pull his fender's out (I think about 1/4 inch) and or maybe more I'm not sure, there was no damage to the paint and you could never tell he had anything done (Flawless work) at a cost of $160.50, his car ride's and look's great no problems 6 month's and counting.
Whatever you decide be careful and have the work done by a shop you can trust and you have seen their work (Make sure they heat under the fender's before pulling or the paint will crack).
Goodluck.
Cool! I can try that method. It doesn't cost much anyway. By the way, do you use 245/235 for the front tyre?
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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I just thought that I'd throw in my 2 cents here...

I'm running iForged 19x8 in the front and 19x10 in the rear with Falken 452's (235 fronts and 265 rears) with no rubbing whatsoever. My car is lowered on Teins and I've even had a total of 5 adults in it with no rubbing.

Good luck to you because I know how frustrating that rubbing sound can be!
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Falken cut their tires at least 1 size under. If you compare the tire side by side you'll see the Falken 265 is usually only other brand's 255 width. Therefore you have less sidewall or should I say a more slanted sidewall.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankW
Falken cut their tires at least 1 size under. If you compare the tire side by side you'll see the Falken 265 is usually only other brand's 255 width. Therefore you have less sidewall or should I say a more slanted sidewall.
So, Frank, I'm having the same problem as well. Should I then change to
255's for the rears (or 265 Falken as you said)? I hope they will credit me cause I just bought them last week. BTW, I'm using 265/R Nitto 555 on Brabus mono VI reps. Thanks.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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So, Frank, I'm having the same problem as well. Should I then change to
255's for the rears (or 265 Falken as you said)? I hope they will credit me cause I just bought them last week. BTW, I'm using 265/R Nitto 555 on Brabus mono VI reps. Thanks.
If you want to go with Falken then be sure to watch out for serious pothole when you drive. I have few friends that ran Falkens on their DPEs which they bent easy since the Falken gives you a stretched look.

I would suggest tires with stiffer sidewall if you want to run 255's. The Hankook have pretty stiff sidewalls.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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You can also try Toyo T1R's for reduced sidewall profile to prevent rubbing.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 03:49 AM
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Thanks, Frank and Ling. I would really like to stay with 265's for some lip protection, would the Toyo's give me that without the rubbing? Or should I just go for the 255's? I'm hoping my next buy would be the right one.

Hey, Ling, you're in San Diego right? Do you know of a local shop who can do fender rolling if I need to go that route? Thanks for your help.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by nanrye
Thanks, Frank and Ling. I would really like to stay with 265's for some lip protection, would the Toyo's give me that without the rubbing? Or should I just go for the 255's? I'm hoping my next buy would be the right one.

Hey, Ling, you're in San Diego right? Do you know of a local shop who can do fender rolling if I need to go that route? Thanks for your help.
The Toyo's will not offer lip protection. Don't ask me how I know. I'm not sure which tire would offer the best of both worlds.

Yeah I'm in SD. Local shop I know of that most people take their car to do fender rolling is Group5 Motorsport. Before you roll your fenders you'll need to confirm it is the actual fender rubbing and not the part where the bumper meets the quarter panel otherwise you'd be rolling the fenders for nothing.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Thanks for the info.
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just figure it this way, anything with lip protection may cause rubbing and anything without may cause curb rash or easily bent.

I would rather have the rubbing issue which can be solved with rolling/shaving the fender for cheap labor than bending my rims which can be costly and time consuming.
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His tires is Michelin PS2 which has a donuts style sidewall, very unfriendly for lowered W203. I already suggested running Toyo T1R. Unfortunately Falken already discontinued their FK451 lines, but i never like the sidewall anyway (no rim protection). The FK452 has a similar sidewall like the Kumho.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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The Toyo's will not offer lip protection. Don't ask me how I know. I'm not sure which tire would offer the best of both worlds.

Yeah I'm in SD. Local shop I know of that most people take their car to do fender rolling is Group5 Motorsport. Before you roll your fenders you'll need to confirm it is the actual fender rubbing and not the part where the bumper meets the quarter panel otherwise you'd be rolling the fenders for nothing.

In his case, the tires is rubbing the fender at first. We roll it and shaved some of the plastic and metal along the area where the bumper meet the QT panel. It still rubbing. The tires is rubbing on the area where there is a bolt holding the rear bumper to the OT. if we took the big screw out and replace it with a small ones, I am afraid it may not hold overtime.

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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nanrye
Thanks, Frank and Ling. I would really like to stay with 265's for some lip protection, would the Toyo's give me that without the rubbing? Or should I just go for the 255's? I'm hoping my next buy would be the right one.

Hey, Ling, you're in San Diego right? Do you know of a local shop who can do fender rolling if I need to go that route? Thanks for your help.

I think you need to run 255/30/19 on Monoblock VI reps. 265 toyo T1R will still rub.

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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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I think you need to run 255/30/19 on Monoblock VI reps. 265 toyo T1R will still rub.

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Hello,

I hope you didn't get me mixed-up with tgani. He is the one with Michellines
and I have the one the Nitto's 555. What brand of tire do you reccomend?
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I think you need to run 255/30/19 on Monoblock VI reps. 265 toyo T1R will still rub.

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So whatever happened to your Pulley Development for the M271 motors??

did you guys drop the ball on it?
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I just thought that I'd throw in my 2 cents here...

I'm running iForged 19x8 in the front and 19x10 in the rear with Falken 452's (235 fronts and 265 rears) with no rubbing whatsoever. My car is lowered on Teins and I've even had a total of 5 adults in it with no rubbing.

Good luck to you because I know how frustrating that rubbing sound can be!
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Hello,

I hope you didn't get me mixed-up with tgani. He is the one with Michellines
and I have the one the Nitto's 555. What brand of tire do you reccomend?
I am aware of that, I would recommend running 255/30/19 I am not sure if Toyo T1R is available in that size. I think they do. If not pirelli and dunlop makes them.

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