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Hey Guys CHECK THISOUT!!!
Hey everyone here is a little link to a diesel AMG, not in englsih but there are soem pixs
http://www.km77.com/marcas/mercedes/...mera/texto.asp
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http://www.km77.com/marcas/mercedes/...mera/texto.asp
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Very interesting! Seems like that thing gets pretty nice power. I pushed it thru babelfish.altavista.com and got these facts out of it:
- 3.2L diesel engine
- Max power @ 231 CV (is this HP?), with 540 Nm torque
- Compression pressure @ 2105 kpa
- Speed limiter @ 250 km/hr
- 17" rims
I didn't do any metric -> english unit conversions because I didn't have a calculator nearby, but anybody's welcome to.
- 3.2L diesel engine
- Max power @ 231 CV (is this HP?), with 540 Nm torque
- Compression pressure @ 2105 kpa
- Speed limiter @ 250 km/hr
- 17" rims
I didn't do any metric -> english unit conversions because I didn't have a calculator nearby, but anybody's welcome to.
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Mercedes will send a version of the Sportcoupé with a diesel engine of 3.2 liters prepared by AMG, that gives 231 CV. This version, call C 30 CDI AMG, is the first preparation of AMG on a diesel engine that comprises of range Mercedes.
The motor is the six cylinders Diesel that Mercedes in Class S (and next in Class E) has, in version of 3.2 liters of piston displacement. In present Class S , with the modifications conducted in the injection, it gives 204 CV to 4,200 rpm of maximum power, and 500 CV from 1,800 to 2,600 rpm of maximum pair.
AMG, the department of sport vehicles and competition of Mercedes, have elevated the maximum power up to 231 CV (a 13 percent more) and the maximum pair up to 540 Nm (an 8 percent more).
He is much even in absolute terms and in relation to their piston displacement, but it is not either an extreme preparation to be a series car. Its mean effective pressure arrives at 2,105 kPa, something less than motor 1.9 of Volkswagen in version of 150 CV (2,120 kPa) and something more than the 3.0 of BMW in version of 218 CV (2,098 kPa).
Its 100 terminal velocity is limited 250 km/h and accelerates from 0 to km/h in 8 seconds. The body seems similar to the one of the C 32 AMG , but they are distinguished in things like the wheels. The C 30 CDI AMG has 225/45 and 245/40 ahead behind, always with rim 17". In the photos it is seen that the lights of the C 30 CDI AMG are of crystal without carving, but is a change that can affect all Class C.
There is no other Diesel engine with this size and power. Not even there is a Diesel engine of sport exposition near which has the C 30 CDI AMG. Yes is sport of gasoline with this size and power, but have a smaller price of the one than it is possible to anticipate for the C 30 CDI AMG.
The motor is the six cylinders Diesel that Mercedes in Class S (and next in Class E) has, in version of 3.2 liters of piston displacement. In present Class S , with the modifications conducted in the injection, it gives 204 CV to 4,200 rpm of maximum power, and 500 CV from 1,800 to 2,600 rpm of maximum pair.
AMG, the department of sport vehicles and competition of Mercedes, have elevated the maximum power up to 231 CV (a 13 percent more) and the maximum pair up to 540 Nm (an 8 percent more).
He is much even in absolute terms and in relation to their piston displacement, but it is not either an extreme preparation to be a series car. Its mean effective pressure arrives at 2,105 kPa, something less than motor 1.9 of Volkswagen in version of 150 CV (2,120 kPa) and something more than the 3.0 of BMW in version of 218 CV (2,098 kPa).
Its 100 terminal velocity is limited 250 km/h and accelerates from 0 to km/h in 8 seconds. The body seems similar to the one of the C 32 AMG , but they are distinguished in things like the wheels. The C 30 CDI AMG has 225/45 and 245/40 ahead behind, always with rim 17". In the photos it is seen that the lights of the C 30 CDI AMG are of crystal without carving, but is a change that can affect all Class C.
There is no other Diesel engine with this size and power. Not even there is a Diesel engine of sport exposition near which has the C 30 CDI AMG. Yes is sport of gasoline with this size and power, but have a smaller price of the one than it is possible to anticipate for the C 30 CDI AMG.
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is that going to be available in the U.S.? anyone know?
btw can anyone calculate 540 NM of torque in the lb/ft of torque? Thanks
is that going to be available in the U.S.? anyone know?
btw can anyone calculate 540 NM of torque in the lb/ft of torque? Thanks
398.52 lb-ft.
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I always thought that if there was an "official" AMG Coupe released that it would be a high-output diesel.
400 ft-lbs of torque! I need some stumps pulled out of the yard, please!
Cheers, BT
400 ft-lbs of torque! I need some stumps pulled out of the yard, please!
Cheers, BT
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Originally posted by Lynn
U.S. Desiel fuel contains to much sulfur and will damage the the emmsions system on the Desiel. That is why MB longer sells any Desiels here.
398.52 lb-ft.
U.S. Desiel fuel contains to much sulfur and will damage the the emmsions system on the Desiel. That is why MB longer sells any Desiels here.
398.52 lb-ft.
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Originally posted by FrankW
woa that's 400 lb of torque
woa that's 400 lb of torque
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8 seconds is really not that bad...
There are several gas engine cars that have about 200hp and cant get that number. For a diesel that is stellar performance. Dont even think its coming here other than those that buy them thru the grey market.
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Yeah, diesel cars are different beasts. Their main "drawback" from a driver's point of view is low redline, and not even that - you have to shift early, well before the engine hits the red line, as spinning it past the max torque area makes no sense.
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Originally posted by vadim
Yeah, but - 8 seconds 0-62mph... Not too impressive... On the other hand, this must be a dream around-town car, with this lo-rev hi-torque motor.
Yeah, but - 8 seconds 0-62mph... Not too impressive... On the other hand, this must be a dream around-town car, with this lo-rev hi-torque motor.
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but 400 lb of torque is still a lot of tire shreding power.
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Hey,
Are you sure it will be a 6-cylinder diesel? I thought the inline 6 CDI doesn't fit under the hood of the C-Class, that's why the C270 CDI has 5-cylinders.
New European diesel cars are awesome. They may accelerate slower to 60, but the passing power is incredible. When I was in London last semester, my family friend had a new Audi A4 2.5 V6 TDI. We were pushed back into our seats when we wanted to pass on the motorway going 90 in 6th gear (without downshifting). That car could move. I can't imagine what a S400 CDI with a diesel V8 must feel like. By the way, I read that half of all S-Class sales in the UK are S320 CDIs.
Are you sure it will be a 6-cylinder diesel? I thought the inline 6 CDI doesn't fit under the hood of the C-Class, that's why the C270 CDI has 5-cylinders.
New European diesel cars are awesome. They may accelerate slower to 60, but the passing power is incredible. When I was in London last semester, my family friend had a new Audi A4 2.5 V6 TDI. We were pushed back into our seats when we wanted to pass on the motorway going 90 in 6th gear (without downshifting). That car could move. I can't imagine what a S400 CDI with a diesel V8 must feel like. By the way, I read that half of all S-Class sales in the UK are S320 CDIs.
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It isn't the 6 cylinder inline engine. For a few months MB has been putting the new 5 cyl engines in the C class (the new 5 cyl was introduced with the new E class). AFAIK that enigne is more robust. AMG has increased the volume from 2.7 to 3.0 litres and probably increased the turbo pressure and fuel amout a bit.
From JES it looks like it has the following specs:
- 231HP
- 540NM between 2000-2500 rpm
- 0-100 (0-60mph) 6.8 secs
- 250KM/h
Sounds like reasonable values. If you chip the standard 270 engine you can het about 1 second of the 0-100, increase the HP to about 205 and the torque to 420, so if you really tune it like AMG has done these values should be easily obtained.
Now for a better chip for the AMG version
From JES it looks like it has the following specs:
- 231HP
- 540NM between 2000-2500 rpm
- 0-100 (0-60mph) 6.8 secs
- 250KM/h
Sounds like reasonable values. If you chip the standard 270 engine you can het about 1 second of the 0-100, increase the HP to about 205 and the torque to 420, so if you really tune it like AMG has done these values should be easily obtained.
Now for a better chip for the AMG version
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Originally posted by mverboom
It isn't the 6 cylinder inline engine. For a few months MB has been putting the new 5 cyl engines in the C class (the new 5 cyl was introduced with the new E class). AFAIK that enigne is more robust. AMG has increased the volume from 2.7 to 3.0 litres and probably increased the turbo pressure and fuel amout a bit.
From JES it looks like it has the following specs:
- 231HP
- 540NM between 2000-2500 rpm
- 0-100 (0-60mph) 6.8 secs
- 250KM/h
Sounds like reasonable values. If you chip the standard 270 engine you can het about 1 second of the 0-100, increase the HP to about 205 and the torque to 420, so if you really tune it like AMG has done these values should be easily obtained.
Now for a better chip for the AMG version
It isn't the 6 cylinder inline engine. For a few months MB has been putting the new 5 cyl engines in the C class (the new 5 cyl was introduced with the new E class). AFAIK that enigne is more robust. AMG has increased the volume from 2.7 to 3.0 litres and probably increased the turbo pressure and fuel amout a bit.
From JES it looks like it has the following specs:
- 231HP
- 540NM between 2000-2500 rpm
- 0-100 (0-60mph) 6.8 secs
- 250KM/h
Sounds like reasonable values. If you chip the standard 270 engine you can het about 1 second of the 0-100, increase the HP to about 205 and the torque to 420, so if you really tune it like AMG has done these values should be easily obtained.
Now for a better chip for the AMG version
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Originally posted by vadim
0-100km/h is actually 0-62mph, which means the 0-60 time will be even better, somewhere between 0.1 and 0.2 sec.
0-100km/h is actually 0-62mph, which means the 0-60 time will be even better, somewhere between 0.1 and 0.2 sec.
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