Ported Supercharger Installed
01-13-2007, 03:47 PM
#1
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,206
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
5 Posts
2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
Ported Supercharger Installed
Well, I got the S/C back from Stiegemeier. I am breaking it in for about 400 miles before doing a WOT run. I am hoping for maybe 4-5 horse for this. They think it is good for 15, bugt I haven't heard of that kind of return before.
Some of you may be aware of the excess oil that is getting in the MAF, so I finally just took the car to the dealer for them to do a diagnosis. I was hoping to get an answer on her, but I guess I am one of the only ones to run into this problem and attempt a DIY.
Once I get the work done, I'll let you know what was going on, and what had to be replaced. Long term I think I will install a Catch Can to avoid this problem recurring.
Pics of Stock and Ported S/C to come.
E
Some of you may be aware of the excess oil that is getting in the MAF, so I finally just took the car to the dealer for them to do a diagnosis. I was hoping to get an answer on her, but I guess I am one of the only ones to run into this problem and attempt a DIY.
Once I get the work done, I'll let you know what was going on, and what had to be replaced. Long term I think I will install a Catch Can to avoid this problem recurring.
Pics of Stock and Ported S/C to come.
E
01-13-2007, 03:49 PM
#2
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Socal
Posts: 2,175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
EVE
Well, I got the S/C back from Stiegemeier. I am breaking it in for about 400 miles before doing a WOT run. I am hoping for maybe 4-5 horse for this. They think it is good for 15, bugt I haven't heard of that kind of return before.
Some of you may be aware of the excess oil that is getting in the MAF, so I finally just took the car to the dealer for them to do a diagnosis. I was hoping to get an answer on her, but I guess I am one of the only ones to run into this problem and attempt a DIY.
Once I get the work done, I'll let you know what was going on, and what had to be replaced. Long term I think I will install a Catch Can to avoid this problem recurring.
Pics of Stock and Ported S/C to come.
E
Some of you may be aware of the excess oil that is getting in the MAF, so I finally just took the car to the dealer for them to do a diagnosis. I was hoping to get an answer on her, but I guess I am one of the only ones to run into this problem and attempt a DIY.
Once I get the work done, I'll let you know what was going on, and what had to be replaced. Long term I think I will install a Catch Can to avoid this problem recurring.
Pics of Stock and Ported S/C to come.
E
.
01-13-2007, 03:59 PM
#3
Super Moderator Alumni
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Los Angeles
Posts: 7,684
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes
on
5 Posts
Midnight Blue 2004.5 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan. 2002 w210 E320, 2009 w211 E350 Sport
Well, I got the S/C back from Stiegemeier. I am breaking it in for about 400 miles before doing a WOT run. I am hoping for maybe 4-5 horse for this. They think it is good for 15, bugt I haven't heard of that kind of return before.
Some of you may be aware of the excess oil that is getting in the MAF, so I finally just took the car to the dealer for them to do a diagnosis. I was hoping to get an answer on her, but I guess I am one of the only ones to run into this problem and attempt a DIY.
Once I get the work done, I'll let you know what was going on, and what had to be replaced. Long term I think I will install a Catch Can to avoid this problem recurring.
Pics of Stock and Ported S/C to come.
E
Some of you may be aware of the excess oil that is getting in the MAF, so I finally just took the car to the dealer for them to do a diagnosis. I was hoping to get an answer on her, but I guess I am one of the only ones to run into this problem and attempt a DIY.
Once I get the work done, I'll let you know what was going on, and what had to be replaced. Long term I think I will install a Catch Can to avoid this problem recurring.
Pics of Stock and Ported S/C to come.
E
01-13-2007, 04:05 PM
#4
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: San Diego, CA & San Jose, Costa Rica & Stuttgart, Germany
Posts: 9,498
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes
on
3 Posts
1959 220S / 1979 230 G / 2002 A210 AMG / 2003 C320 SC / 2004.5 C320 SS / 2005 ML350 SE / 2008 smart
400 miles in a week....... SHOOT... give it to me, I'll rack some miles up for ya !! 
01-13-2007, 09:38 PM
#6
Super Moderator
Kudos to you for undertaking such an ambitious modification!
We supercharger aficionados are impatiently awaiting your feedback and results.
We supercharger aficionados are impatiently awaiting your feedback and results.
Trending Topics
dam you and ur m3! lol
01-14-2007, 06:25 AM
#9
Super Moderator Alumni
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Los Angeles
Posts: 7,684
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes
on
5 Posts
Midnight Blue 2004.5 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan. 2002 w210 E320, 2009 w211 E350 Sport
Phil, can't wait 'till my m271 is faster than your m3!...hahaha...yeah right.
01-14-2007, 02:01 PM
#10
Super Moderator
haha! well, you can smoke my m271 all you want next Sat!
01-14-2007, 04:08 PM
#11
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,206
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
5 Posts
2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
Okay here is the old one:
A closer look at the vanes and the triangle that got ported.
Now, let me get the new pics off my camera for you guys.
E
A closer look at the vanes and the triangle that got ported.
Now, let me get the new pics off my camera for you guys.
E
01-14-2007, 05:05 PM
#12
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,206
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
5 Posts
2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
Ported S/C pics
Here is the final result.
Total cost on the porting was $395. They were doing a January sale. It also cost me $120 to rent a car while the S/C was away, plus about $150 in Fedex Express charges. The Gaskets and seals were about $60 total. So it cost me about $725, but mostly I have the pride of DIY, and knowing that baby is good for at least another 100k miles.
I'll post the dyno when I do it.
E
Total cost on the porting was $395. They were doing a January sale. It also cost me $120 to rent a car while the S/C was away, plus about $150 in Fedex Express charges. The Gaskets and seals were about $60 total. So it cost me about $725, but mostly I have the pride of DIY, and knowing that baby is good for at least another 100k miles.
I'll post the dyno when I do it.
E
01-15-2007, 02:16 AM
#13
Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, California
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2002 C230 Coupe
E,
Looks great! Can I ask a HUGE favor and have you post the gaskets that are required (and part numbers) for those of us that want to follow in your footsteps?
The ported S/C looks like it's going to flow a decent amount more air. I can't wait to see your dyno numbers!
Bob
Looks great! Can I ask a HUGE favor and have you post the gaskets that are required (and part numbers) for those of us that want to follow in your footsteps?
The ported S/C looks like it's going to flow a decent amount more air. I can't wait to see your dyno numbers!
Bob
01-16-2007, 11:45 PM
#14
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,206
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
5 Posts
2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
Initial Impressions
Pardon the interuption. My inital impression is ready to go. I may be making a huge error by mentioning this before conducting a dyno.
The new S/C has a bit more whine to it. Which me likes.
I can say that the car revs up faster, and is certainly moving more air. I do feel the increase in power. When I was doing my first shake down run, I came up on the car right in front of me a bit sooner than I was used to.
I also installed an oil catch can to try to help with the oil in the MAF/Intake. But oddly, I have yet to get a drop.
I wanted to get a dyno, pre meet, but it just doesn't look like it is going to happen.
When I get it done, I'll post. Bob, are you going to the meet, we should get together and talk a bit about M111 engine mods.
I know return you to your regularly scheduled dribble of rims, bling and other crap.
E
The new S/C has a bit more whine to it. Which me likes.
I can say that the car revs up faster, and is certainly moving more air. I do feel the increase in power. When I was doing my first shake down run, I came up on the car right in front of me a bit sooner than I was used to.
I also installed an oil catch can to try to help with the oil in the MAF/Intake. But oddly, I have yet to get a drop.
I wanted to get a dyno, pre meet, but it just doesn't look like it is going to happen.
When I get it done, I'll post. Bob, are you going to the meet, we should get together and talk a bit about M111 engine mods.
I know return you to your regularly scheduled dribble of rims, bling and other crap.
E
01-16-2007, 11:50 PM
#15
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Socal
Posts: 2,175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
EVE
Pardon the interuption. My inital impression is ready to go. I may be making a huge error by mentioning this before conducting a dyno.
The new S/C has a bit more whine to it. Which me likes.
I can say that the car revs up faster, and is certainly moving more air. I do feel the increase in power. When I was doing my first shake down run, I came up on the car right in front of me a bit sooner than I was used to.
I also installed an oil catch can to try to help with the oil in the MAF/Intake. But oddly, I have yet to get a drop.
I wanted to get a dyno, pre meet, but it just doesn't look like it is going to happen.
When I get it done, I'll post. Bob, are you going to the meet, we should get together and talk a bit about M111 engine mods.
I know return you to your regularly scheduled dribble of rims, bling and other crap.
E
The new S/C has a bit more whine to it. Which me likes.
I can say that the car revs up faster, and is certainly moving more air. I do feel the increase in power. When I was doing my first shake down run, I came up on the car right in front of me a bit sooner than I was used to.
I also installed an oil catch can to try to help with the oil in the MAF/Intake. But oddly, I have yet to get a drop.
I wanted to get a dyno, pre meet, but it just doesn't look like it is going to happen.
When I get it done, I'll post. Bob, are you going to the meet, we should get together and talk a bit about M111 engine mods.
I know return you to your regularly scheduled dribble of rims, bling and other crap.
E
01-17-2007, 12:16 AM
#16
Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, California
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2002 C230 Coupe
Yup, I plan to be at the meet. Let's try to catch up. I'd love to hear more about the supercharger. Until my engine dies (probably a very long time from now), my wife tells me that I can't do anything to the car including stroking the motor and porting/polishing the head. Since the S/C is technically outside the engine, I consider that fair game.
Just look for a big, fat Asian driving a dark blue Nissan Murano. The wife, baby, and father-in-law will be in-tow, so the family truckster is making an appearance instead of the C230 Coupe.
Bob
P.S. I'm a former X1/9 owner too! :-P Had a 1981 X1/9 in silver - fun little car. Bought the big brother years later (Ferrari 308 GTSi) but big brother came with big maintenance bills. Had a 2003 Ducati ST3, but that went away when the wife was pregnant. Now I have the wife and baby (different sort of maintenance altogether) and nothing Italian.
Last edited by rtking; 01-17-2007 at 12:20 AM.
01-17-2007, 12:26 AM
#17
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,206
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
5 Posts
2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
[QUOTE=rtking;1941127]Yo E!
Yup, I plan to be at the meet. Let's try to catch up. I'd love to hear more about the supercharger. Until my engine dies (probably a very long time from now), my wife tells me that I can't do anything to the car including stroking the motor and porting/polishing the head. Since the S/C is technically outside the engine, I consider that fair game.
Just look for a big, fat Asian driving a dark blue Nissan Murano. The wife, baby, and father-in-law will be in-tow, so the family truckster is making an appearance instead of the C230 Coupe.
Bob
Ahhh, porting and polishing on the head. Now that is something to do. Only problem is who to find who can do the work correctly. I'm a bit leery of just finding any shop to do the work.
Great, well, I'm a thinish looking car with some greying hair. I'm the guy who looks like he has never touched a wrench in his life. For whatever reason people can't believe that I like to work on cars. My car is Blue with door dings, a banged up hatch and bad rims.
Cool on the X, I now have two, none of them are running...
E
Yup, I plan to be at the meet. Let's try to catch up. I'd love to hear more about the supercharger. Until my engine dies (probably a very long time from now), my wife tells me that I can't do anything to the car including stroking the motor and porting/polishing the head. Since the S/C is technically outside the engine, I consider that fair game.
Just look for a big, fat Asian driving a dark blue Nissan Murano. The wife, baby, and father-in-law will be in-tow, so the family truckster is making an appearance instead of the C230 Coupe.
Bob
Ahhh, porting and polishing on the head. Now that is something to do. Only problem is who to find who can do the work correctly. I'm a bit leery of just finding any shop to do the work.
Great, well, I'm a thinish looking car with some greying hair. I'm the guy who looks like he has never touched a wrench in his life. For whatever reason people can't believe that I like to work on cars. My car is Blue with door dings, a banged up hatch and bad rims.
Cool on the X, I now have two, none of them are running...
E
01-17-2007, 12:41 AM
#18
Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, California
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2002 C230 Coupe
Ahhh, porting and polishing on the head. Now that is something to do. Only problem is who to find who can do the work correctly. I'm a bit leery of just finding any shop to do the work.
Boport Flow Development (boport.com) seems like a good place. I am planning on sending my Esslinger aluminum head to them for complete porting and flow-benching. I built a 2.5 liter stroker for my SVO and I'm looking to make some pretty big power.
I guess I'm getting "stroke happy" because I'd love to be able to stroke the 2.3 M111 engine and have a high flowing head. I wonder what power output would be achievable?
*off topic*
LOL - my X1/9 had its share of problems, but with a little TLC, it ran great. I was reading your blog about coolant mixing with the oil. IIRC, one of my friends' ex-girlfriends had an X1/9 where she installed a different head and ended up with a lot of coolant in the oil. I can't remember the exact solution (I'll look on my other computer tomorrow for the email thread) but I think the problem was with the thermostat housing and having to block off one port. I just remember that, for as short a time as she ran that motor, there was an amazing amount of coolant mixed into the oil. That suggested a big leak somewhere, which turned out to be that port...
Boport Flow Development (boport.com) seems like a good place. I am planning on sending my Esslinger aluminum head to them for complete porting and flow-benching. I built a 2.5 liter stroker for my SVO and I'm looking to make some pretty big power.
I guess I'm getting "stroke happy" because I'd love to be able to stroke the 2.3 M111 engine and have a high flowing head. I wonder what power output would be achievable?
*off topic*
LOL - my X1/9 had its share of problems, but with a little TLC, it ran great. I was reading your blog about coolant mixing with the oil. IIRC, one of my friends' ex-girlfriends had an X1/9 where she installed a different head and ended up with a lot of coolant in the oil. I can't remember the exact solution (I'll look on my other computer tomorrow for the email thread) but I think the problem was with the thermostat housing and having to block off one port. I just remember that, for as short a time as she ran that motor, there was an amazing amount of coolant mixed into the oil. That suggested a big leak somewhere, which turned out to be that port...
01-17-2007, 12:43 AM
#19
Super Moderator
Great, well, I'm a thinish looking car with some greying hair. I'm the guy who looks like he has never touched a wrench in his life. For whatever reason people can't believe that I like to work on cars. My car is Blue with door dings, a banged up hatch and bad rims.
Cool on the X, I now have two, none of them are running...
E
Cool on the X, I now have two, none of them are running...
E
01-17-2007, 12:52 AM
#20
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,206
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
5 Posts
2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
Yeah, the dreaded EGR valve opening in the thermo housing. Yup I know of that one.
The website is http://www.bo-port.com/index.html
Stage 2 or 3 all the way! Is there a local company here in So Cal though. I wonder if I might be able to find a good used head and then have that one worked. That way it could be an all in one job. Prior to port and polish, I guess I still have the exhaust to do. I also saw some silly bends and choke points in the Drivers side plastic air intake piece that goes from the S/C hose to the Mass Air Sensor. I was thinking about ravaging through the Spearco Catalog to find something useful. Only thing is our cooling mounts use a clip. (Is this normal?) So the hoses may not mount easily.
I wonder if we might be able to clear 230 at the wheels. I really need to spend some time talking to the SLK and older C230 M111 guys to see what they have done, and who has gone the farthest. I do know, my last dyno was way lean. I got an apt tomorrow for a dyno in the p.m. MUCHOS GRACIAS JOSE!!!
I'm quite worried about how lean I am going to be with the porting.
E
The website is http://www.bo-port.com/index.html
Stage 2 or 3 all the way! Is there a local company here in So Cal though. I wonder if I might be able to find a good used head and then have that one worked. That way it could be an all in one job. Prior to port and polish, I guess I still have the exhaust to do. I also saw some silly bends and choke points in the Drivers side plastic air intake piece that goes from the S/C hose to the Mass Air Sensor. I was thinking about ravaging through the Spearco Catalog to find something useful. Only thing is our cooling mounts use a clip. (Is this normal?) So the hoses may not mount easily.
I wonder if we might be able to clear 230 at the wheels. I really need to spend some time talking to the SLK and older C230 M111 guys to see what they have done, and who has gone the farthest. I do know, my last dyno was way lean. I got an apt tomorrow for a dyno in the p.m. MUCHOS GRACIAS JOSE!!!
I'm quite worried about how lean I am going to be with the porting.
E
01-17-2007, 12:53 AM
#21
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,206
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
5 Posts
2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
E
01-17-2007, 02:27 PM
#22
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Diamond Bar & Anaheim, CA
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
2003 C-Class Sportcoupe
Ahhh, porting and polishing on the head. Now that is something to do. Only problem is who to find who can do the work correctly. I'm a bit leery of just finding any shop to do the work.
Boport Flow Development (boport.com) seems like a good place. I am planning on sending my Esslinger aluminum head to them for complete porting and flow-benching. I built a 2.5 liter stroker for my SVO and I'm looking to make some pretty big power.
I guess I'm getting "stroke happy" because I'd love to be able to stroke the 2.3 M111 engine and have a high flowing head. I wonder what power output would be achievable?
*off topic*
LOL - my X1/9 had its share of problems, but with a little TLC, it ran great. I was reading your blog about coolant mixing with the oil. IIRC, one of my friends' ex-girlfriends had an X1/9 where she installed a different head and ended up with a lot of coolant in the oil. I can't remember the exact solution (I'll look on my other computer tomorrow for the email thread) but I think the problem was with the thermostat housing and having to block off one port. I just remember that, for as short a time as she ran that motor, there was an amazing amount of coolant mixed into the oil. That suggested a big leak somewhere, which turned out to be that port...
Boport Flow Development (boport.com) seems like a good place. I am planning on sending my Esslinger aluminum head to them for complete porting and flow-benching. I built a 2.5 liter stroker for my SVO and I'm looking to make some pretty big power.
I guess I'm getting "stroke happy" because I'd love to be able to stroke the 2.3 M111 engine and have a high flowing head. I wonder what power output would be achievable?
*off topic*
LOL - my X1/9 had its share of problems, but with a little TLC, it ran great. I was reading your blog about coolant mixing with the oil. IIRC, one of my friends' ex-girlfriends had an X1/9 where she installed a different head and ended up with a lot of coolant in the oil. I can't remember the exact solution (I'll look on my other computer tomorrow for the email thread) but I think the problem was with the thermostat housing and having to block off one port. I just remember that, for as short a time as she ran that motor, there was an amazing amount of coolant mixed into the oil. That suggested a big leak somewhere, which turned out to be that port...
Did you finish your Mustang?
01-17-2007, 02:54 PM
#23
The website is http://www.bo-port.com/index.html
Stage 2 or 3 all the way! Is there a local company here in So Cal though. I wonder if I might be able to find a good used head and then have that one worked. That way it could be an all in one job. Prior to port and polish, I guess I still have the exhaust to do. I also saw some silly bends and choke points in the Drivers side plastic air intake piece that goes from the S/C hose to the Mass Air Sensor. I was thinking about ravaging through the Spearco Catalog to find something useful. Only thing is our cooling mounts use a clip. (Is this normal?) So the hoses may not mount easily.
I wonder if we might be able to clear 230 at the wheels. I really need to spend some time talking to the SLK and older C230 M111 guys to see what they have done, and who has gone the farthest. I do know, my last dyno was way lean. I got an apt tomorrow for a dyno in the p.m. MUCHOS GRACIAS JOSE!!!
I'm quite worried about how lean I am going to be with the porting.
E
Stage 2 or 3 all the way! Is there a local company here in So Cal though. I wonder if I might be able to find a good used head and then have that one worked. That way it could be an all in one job. Prior to port and polish, I guess I still have the exhaust to do. I also saw some silly bends and choke points in the Drivers side plastic air intake piece that goes from the S/C hose to the Mass Air Sensor. I was thinking about ravaging through the Spearco Catalog to find something useful. Only thing is our cooling mounts use a clip. (Is this normal?) So the hoses may not mount easily.
I wonder if we might be able to clear 230 at the wheels. I really need to spend some time talking to the SLK and older C230 M111 guys to see what they have done, and who has gone the farthest. I do know, my last dyno was way lean. I got an apt tomorrow for a dyno in the p.m. MUCHOS GRACIAS JOSE!!!
I'm quite worried about how lean I am going to be with the porting.
E
01-17-2007, 03:41 PM
#25
Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, California
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2002 C230 Coupe
Yo Pshek!
Nope - baby came along. That took all my time. Motor is still sitting on the engine stand, but I have to yank the head off and send it out to BoPort to maximize flow. I have a very aggressive cam, but if I can really increase flow, I can use a less aggressive cam which will actually let me idle below 1000 rpm!
Bob
Nope - baby came along. That took all my time. Motor is still sitting on the engine stand, but I have to yank the head off and send it out to BoPort to maximize flow. I have a very aggressive cam, but if I can really increase flow, I can use a less aggressive cam which will actually let me idle below 1000 rpm!
Bob
