Exhaust
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Exhaust
Yes, I searched. Here's my question:
Is there an exhaust set-up which will improve performance without making the car exceedingly loud? I've heard the Kleeman (too loud); what choices do I have?
Is there an exhaust set-up which will improve performance without making the car exceedingly loud? I've heard the Kleeman (too loud); what choices do I have?
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A straight pipe a la old school muscle car? No, I'm looking for a mild exhaust with a throatier sound...no rice burner mufflers....
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Companies that offer mufflers REMUS, KLEEMANN, Carlsson, Weltmeister.
This is all off the top of my head, so I may be missing a few.
The most "subtle" out of the mufflers has to be between the Remus and Brabus muffler. Since you don't want to have it be too "loud", you're definitely not gonna want a full cat-back system. Sounds like you're just looking to replace the muffler (which in my book, doesn't necessarily count as an exhaust replacement). If that's the case, best bang for the buck seems to be Remus vs. the more expensive Brabus.
OR
The cheapest route, to get a throatier/deeper tone, would be to remove the resonator. Many people have done that on here.
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For this car, I haven't seen one person have any gains from an exhaust (whether custom cat-back or just muffler).
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No extra HP! Thats the word I got from Kleeman when i called. One other option that I was considering is go with the AMG. I have heard it is a little throatier sound and I'm trying to find out if you just order the c32 muffler, if it will just bolt or weld onto our system at the rear axle area??? Anyone have an idea on that?
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No extra HP! Thats the word I got from Kleeman when i called. One other option that I was considering is go with the AMG. I have heard it is a little throatier sound and I'm trying to find out if you just order the c32 muffler, if it will just bolt or weld onto our system at the rear axle area??? Anyone have an idea on that?
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No extra HP! Thats the word I got from Kleeman when i called. One other option that I was considering is go with the AMG. I have heard it is a little throatier sound and I'm trying to find out if you just order the c32 muffler, if it will just bolt or weld onto our system at the rear axle area??? Anyone have an idea on that?
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In addition, please be aware that the size of the tubing leading into (the muffler has the female junction) it has an OD of ~2.75"/70mm.
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hi all! ive just traded in my modded audi TT for an 07 c230 ss that i will be taking delivery on thursday for. im was so glad to find a forum for the new benz after using audiworld as a great resource for so many years. i was wondering where i could buy an eisenmann race exhaust. evosport doesnt have them listed on their site. is it also correct in saying that it will fit all w203's except AMG's? thanks for the help guys. also any other tips and advice on mods and things of that nature are more than welcome!!
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That being said, if you just replace a muffler on the car, that's why I never consider that getting and "exhaust". Changing your "exhaust" to me, would comprise of custom piping or replacement of the exhaust piping from the cat-back (bare minimum).
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In my experience with JDM's, the OEM exhaust piping was so small (e.g. 1.75-2 inches) and restrictive that almost every car I knew of gained power from changing to a cat-back exhaust. The EVO has big exhaust piping for a stock car, but the EVO owners that upgrade to 3 inch piping have shown gains (especially on a turbo/forced induction car).
The stock piping for the Sport Sedans and AMG's in the w203 chassis is actually pretty big already. I think the models that would benefit from exhaust upgrades the most (i.e. cat-back system) would be the 240/320 luxury sedans.
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^Good input, explains much. Fortunately, Quebec has no smog laws (green guys please note how cleans the 2.5L V6 is, so no hate) and, as such, I can remove all cats and as soon as someone makes headers for the car, I am going to put them on with straight pipes to the exhaust. Hence the reason for my question. Not too big because reducing back-flow can reduce power (or giving me HP at the expense of torque).
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^Good input, explains much. Fortunately, Quebec has no smog laws (green guys please note how cleans the 2.5L V6 is, so no hate) and, as such, I can remove all cats and as soon as someone makes headers for the car, I am going to put them on with straight pipes to the exhaust. Hence the reason for my question. Not too big because reducing back-flow can reduce power (or giving me HP at the expense of torque).
If you want a throatier sound but not overly loud, I would recommend either removing the resonator, or replacing it with a shorter one. Generally replacing the muffler with a "performance" muffler will increase exhaust noise significantly.
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As long as you have someone able to handle the codes that cat removal will generate and be able to take advantage of the free air flow, there will be a power increase. As for responsability, I would be much more concerned with the US' choice to not join the Kyoto Accords......my pollution input is insignificant....
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I should say that with what I have, header and larger cat, there isn't much gain in going with any exhaust sysem that is cat back. That was what i was told. And thats backed by a whole lot of dyno tests from what I was told. Mostly the rest is for sound. And yes I like pretty much being sneaky!
