Riddle me this...
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you don't know how many vendors I asked... even one off pieces (they were too expensive). I must have 30 posts on this topic...
here's the deal:
there's a fundamental difference in the m3 diffuser. the rear diffuser section is bolted on and easily removable. so, you can easily put on the new cf section. for the w203, you have to either drill/double sided tape/or cut and mold the diffuser on. it may seem easy, but there have been lots of problems making a cf double sided tape diffuser for our car and the E55. the weave/material has to be very thin so it doesn't stick out and that makes it easily prone to cracking.
there were a few one off diffusers made (see the C32 forum) but I haven't heard of any more or any going into mass production. like most stuff for the w203, the vendors don't see the market there.
here's the deal:
there's a fundamental difference in the m3 diffuser. the rear diffuser section is bolted on and easily removable. so, you can easily put on the new cf section. for the w203, you have to either drill/double sided tape/or cut and mold the diffuser on. it may seem easy, but there have been lots of problems making a cf double sided tape diffuser for our car and the E55. the weave/material has to be very thin so it doesn't stick out and that makes it easily prone to cracking.
there were a few one off diffusers made (see the C32 forum) but I haven't heard of any more or any going into mass production. like most stuff for the w203, the vendors don't see the market there.
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you don't know how many vendors I asked... even one off pieces (they were too expensive). I must have 30 posts on this topic...
here's the deal:
there's a fundamental difference in the m3 diffuser. the rear diffuser section is bolted on and easily removable. so, you can easily put on the new cf section. for the w203, you have to either drill/double sided tape/or cut and mold the diffuser on. it may seem easy, but there have been lots of problems making a cf double sided tape diffuser for our car and the E55. the weave/material has to be very thin so it doesn't stick out and that makes it easily prone to cracking.
there were a few one off diffusers made (see the C32 forum) but I haven't heard of any more or any going into mass production. like most stuff for the w203, the vendors don't see the market there.
here's the deal:
there's a fundamental difference in the m3 diffuser. the rear diffuser section is bolted on and easily removable. so, you can easily put on the new cf section. for the w203, you have to either drill/double sided tape/or cut and mold the diffuser on. it may seem easy, but there have been lots of problems making a cf double sided tape diffuser for our car and the E55. the weave/material has to be very thin so it doesn't stick out and that makes it easily prone to cracking.
there were a few one off diffusers made (see the C32 forum) but I haven't heard of any more or any going into mass production. like most stuff for the w203, the vendors don't see the market there.
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id be all over that...and can someone make nice door pillars too...damn. there is a market for the cf for 203 owners...look how many the cf lip got. someone jus do it..and make it price worthy 
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Now, from the "one offs" that are out there, are they full carbon fiber or just wrapped?
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Post a pic of what you want to be in carbon fiber (real deal, not wrapped) and I;ll get started on it. I'm in the process of having a carbon fiber mesh grill made and a little bit different stock carbon fiber one as well. One of my good friends is a pro at carbon fiber stuff. He builds and repairs carbon fiber race car bodies for a local race team.
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Post a pic of what you want to be in carbon fiber (real deal, not wrapped) and I;ll get started on it. I'm in the process of having a carbon fiber mesh grill made and a little bit different stock carbon fiber one as well. One of my good friends is a pro at carbon fiber stuff. He builds and repairs carbon fiber race car bodies for a local race team.
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I've been reading about CF projects for the W203 for 4 years now on this forum...
want to know what kills it every time ???
cheap-*** foooos who want them cheaper than what it costs to produce,
leaving no profit margin for the manufacturer (home baked or not), and not enough takers to make more than half-a-dozen. Everyone else backs out at the last moment flaking. No one wants to be the guinea pig to test-fit,
and there are a bunch of scammers from Indonesia and other shady places in the world that have delivered sub-par inferior products. That's pretty much the stigma behind CF products for the W203 on this forum.
With that said, there are one-offs out there, that frustrated but resourceful MBWorlders have put on their cars. Big difference: they were willing to pull out the big bucks and have it done right.
People, you drive Mercedes, not Hondas... you get what you pay for !!!!
end of soap-box....
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want to know what kills it every time ???
cheap-*** foooos who want them cheaper than what it costs to produce,
leaving no profit margin for the manufacturer (home baked or not), and not enough takers to make more than half-a-dozen. Everyone else backs out at the last moment flaking. No one wants to be the guinea pig to test-fit,
and there are a bunch of scammers from Indonesia and other shady places in the world that have delivered sub-par inferior products. That's pretty much the stigma behind CF products for the W203 on this forum.
With that said, there are one-offs out there, that frustrated but resourceful MBWorlders have put on their cars. Big difference: they were willing to pull out the big bucks and have it done right.
People, you drive Mercedes, not Hondas... you get what you pay for !!!!
end of soap-box....
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
www.mbca.org/sandiego
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I'm not sure about the "one offs," but there was a guy who did the first one for the E55 guys. I had e-mailed him regarding doing the same thing for us. He needed at least 20 people in just to recover his fees for the mold (and possibly bumper) and then it would be damn pricey still. It would cost us more than the E55 CF diffuser (b/c the E55 one is based off of the black plastic that comes stock and for ours he has to get a bumper and create a mold for it). So, I didn't bother anymore...
As for $250, I wish! Try doubling that. The bootleg eBay CF Diffusers for the M3 are $300 alone and the real vorsteiner "quality" ones are $600-700. You have to pay to play.
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I would be down for a rear CF diffuser. I asked Neal at eurotek and it would be too hard to make one since it would need to be very thin. I have seen 2 one off projects on the C32 section.
I guess the only option is to trim CF style sticker!
I guess the only option is to trim CF style sticker!
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Tried the sticker last night. It was a mission I dont have the patience for.
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I've been reading about CF projects for the W203 for 4 years now on this forum...
want to know what kills it every time ???
cheap-*** foooos who want them cheaper than what it costs to produce,
leaving no profit margin for the manufacturer (home baked or not), and not enough takers to make more than half-a-dozen. Everyone else backs out at the last moment flaking. No one wants to be the guinea pig to test-fit,
and there are a bunch of scammers from Indonesia and other shady places in the world that have delivered sub-par inferior products. That's pretty much the stigma behind CF products for the W203 on this forum.
With that said, there are one-offs out there, that frustrated but resourceful MBWorlders have put on their cars. Big difference: they were willing to pull out the big bucks and have it done right.
People, you drive Mercedes, not Hondas... you get what you pay for !!!!
end of soap-box....
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
www.mbca.org/sandiego
want to know what kills it every time ???
cheap-*** foooos who want them cheaper than what it costs to produce,
leaving no profit margin for the manufacturer (home baked or not), and not enough takers to make more than half-a-dozen. Everyone else backs out at the last moment flaking. No one wants to be the guinea pig to test-fit,
and there are a bunch of scammers from Indonesia and other shady places in the world that have delivered sub-par inferior products. That's pretty much the stigma behind CF products for the W203 on this forum.
With that said, there are one-offs out there, that frustrated but resourceful MBWorlders have put on their cars. Big difference: they were willing to pull out the big bucks and have it done right.
People, you drive Mercedes, not Hondas... you get what you pay for !!!!
end of soap-box....
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
www.mbca.org/sandiego
When I first bought my car, I never thought I'd be hearing the S.O.S. that I heard over at the MX-6 forums. Peeps always complaining about how "expensive" mods were and always trying to find a "cheap" way around things...I found that frustrating, especially because that was people complaining about $500 JDM projector headlights.So when I bought the Benz, my first thought was, "I'm glad it's a Benz cuz then I won't have to see people complaining about prices on mods..." I get over here and it's almost worse! Seriously, folks, there have been a lot of people doing "custom" mods for the w203 peeps ever since I came on here, but no matter how "affordable" the mod is, people still complain.
There are only a handful of people that have done significant power mods on here, even though there are parts available! Even specials for the m271 (just gotta do some research).
It's time to walk the walk, peeps! Last year of the w203, so that means it's time to do some serious modding!
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When I first bought my car, I never thought I'd be hearing the S.O.S. that I heard over at the MX-6 forums. Peeps always complaining about how "expensive" mods were and always trying to find a "cheap" way around things...I found that frustrating, especially because that was people complaining about $500 JDM projector headlights.So when I bought the Benz, my first thought was, "I'm glad it's a Benz cuz then I won't have to see people complaining about prices on mods..." I get over here and it's almost worse! Seriously, folks, there have been a lot of people doing "custom" mods for the w203 peeps ever since I came on here, but no matter how "affordable" the mod is, people still complain.
There are only a handful of people that have done significant power mods on here, even though there are parts available! Even specials for the m271 (just gotta do some research).
It's time to walk the walk, peeps! Last year of the w203, so that means it's time to do some serious modding!
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you're trying to talk like you're such a baller yet you showed us pics of your "navigation" and cassette deck adaptor. why do you use that instead of buying full out command?
you also have replica rims... it's not like you're ballin and can tell people that they're being cheap and to go buy a kia. stop saying stupid ****.
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dude, do you always say something stupid? do you think you're being funny? we're not talking about decals...
you're trying to talk like you're such a baller yet you showed us pics of your "navigation" and cassette deck adaptor. why do you use that instead of buying full out command?
you also have replica rims... it's not like you're ballin and can tell people that they're being cheap and to go buy a kia. stop saying stupid ****.
you're trying to talk like you're such a baller yet you showed us pics of your "navigation" and cassette deck adaptor. why do you use that instead of buying full out command?
you also have replica rims... it's not like you're ballin and can tell people that they're being cheap and to go buy a kia. stop saying stupid ****.
my cassette deck- just temporary things to use so my nav so it could still use on my car speaker.
working hard to earn money to buy a double din one.
for my replica wheels-- i been saving hard to get $1400bux for it, is replica, but i didn't craft the words "carlsson" on it.
you can always just ignore me, see my post just use the scroll button skip it, i started a post just don't bother even clicking in it. is that easy... still unstatifed?? PM me tell me to stfu then..
i am not as rich as you do with a M3 with W203
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stop being racist man... you don't like me that's fine, but don't hurt people feeling... but just that i don't know why do you remember all the place i always go "pepboy" or all other mod i got on my car?? and those things was like wut?? couple years ago...
my cassette deck- just temporary things to use so my nav so it could still use on my car speaker.
working hard to earn money to buy a double din one.
for my replica wheels-- i been saving hard to get $1400bux for it, is replica, but i didn't craft the words "carlsson" on it.
you can always just ignore me, see my post just use the scroll button skip it, i started a post just don't bother even clicking in it. is that easy... still unstatifed?? PM me tell me to stfu then..
i am not as rich as you do with a M3 with W203
my cassette deck- just temporary things to use so my nav so it could still use on my car speaker.
working hard to earn money to buy a double din one.
for my replica wheels-- i been saving hard to get $1400bux for it, is replica, but i didn't craft the words "carlsson" on it.
you can always just ignore me, see my post just use the scroll button skip it, i started a post just don't bother even clicking in it. is that easy... still unstatifed?? PM me tell me to stfu then..
i am not as rich as you do with a M3 with W203
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but the kia jokes are getting old and for you to tell people they're being cheap and to get a kia... yeeeeah.
it's easy to remember your stuff b/c you make such a fuss over it and it's actually pretty funny (not for you, but for everyone else).
