C230K Coupe ? which is the better engine 1.8 or 2.3?
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I saw/heard your youtube video.
MORE!!!
Anything I do to my car just results in less AF ration.
Please tel Jose to make M111 FI injector kit!!
Your engine sounded like a freakin' race car, but you have much more invested than me in engine mods. I'd guess, 5K? Just in the engine.
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New Engine better allways !
1.8 enough for V4 but not V6 and MB is not using same engine after 05 year.
Last revision with 1.8 engine power increased.
But if below face (CLK) would be on C sportcoupe , it was great ( CLK is great but too long that I do not like)
Last revision with 1.8 engine power increased.
But if below face (CLK) would be on C sportcoupe , it was great ( CLK is great but too long that I do not like)
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Test drove a 2003 1.8l autotrans without the salesman
So I really was able to drive the car
Not at all impressed with the power or the autotrans. The autotrans was nothing like my ml430. But I must factor in its a small 4cyl with a supercharger (slight lag).
Where I live that auto trans would be a pain trying to get up these WVA mountains.
Normal driving the car was great. But any attempts to pass or increase speed and the torque was just not there.
So I really was able to drive the car Not at all impressed with the power or the autotrans. The autotrans was nothing like my ml430. But I must factor in its a small 4cyl with a supercharger (slight lag).
Where I live that auto trans would be a pain trying to get up these WVA mountains.
Normal driving the car was great. But any attempts to pass or increase speed and the torque was just not there.
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Well, it's without a doubt the most modified M271 motor out there.
I saw/heard your youtube video.
MORE!!!
Anything I do to my car just results in less AF ration.
Please tel Jose to make M111 FI injector kit!!
Your engine sounded like a freakin' race car, but you have much more invested than me in engine mods. I'd guess, 5K? Just in the engine.
I saw/heard your youtube video.
MORE!!!
Anything I do to my car just results in less AF ration.
Please tel Jose to make M111 FI injector kit!!
Your engine sounded like a freakin' race car, but you have much more invested than me in engine mods. I'd guess, 5K? Just in the engine.
This is the first time I spun the tires through a right turn so much that the ESP completely stopped one tire and the car almost came to a complete stop!...LOL. And I barely had my foot on the accelerator.
I have a good amount invested, but really, it's the shop. I can't say enough good things about those guys and what they've done with my car. It's still going in for more testing for them, but I'm gonna enjoy the time I have the car back until I give it back to them. Once everything is done, I'm sure I'll have more pics, more vids, etc...
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. I've never seen a v4 before. Can you show one to me?
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Test drove a 2003 1.8l autotrans without the salesman So I really was able to drive the car
Not at all impressed with the power or the autotrans. The autotrans was nothing like my ml430. But I must factor in its a small 4cyl with a supercharger (slight lag).
Where I live that auto trans would be a pain trying to get up these WVA mountains.
Normal driving the car was great. But any attempts to pass or increase speed and the torque was just not there.
So I really was able to drive the car Not at all impressed with the power or the autotrans. The autotrans was nothing like my ml430. But I must factor in its a small 4cyl with a supercharger (slight lag).
Where I live that auto trans would be a pain trying to get up these WVA mountains.
Normal driving the car was great. But any attempts to pass or increase speed and the torque was just not there.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...=103716&page=8
I just added some videos of the sound w/ some performance mods and the Kleemann Trapezoid Muffler.
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To this day, I've never seen a V shaped engine that small. V6, v8 v12 even, but never a V4. So again, i ask, would you please show me how it went from being an Inline-4 engine to a V shaped engine?
Now that I've said that, please don't mis-inform people of what the engine is not. If it were a V4, it would be the 1st that I've ever seen in the world and I wouldn't even touch it with aftermarket mofications.
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Again, I re-iterate. Please show me what a V4 looks like. I've never seen that EVER. As far as I've seen a m271 engine, it's a 1.8L supercharged Inline-4.
To this day, I've never seen a V shaped engine that small. V6, v8 v12 even, but never a V4. So again, i ask, would you please show me how it went from being an Inline-4 engine to a V shaped engine?
Now that I've said that, please don't mis-inform people of what the engine is not. If it were a V4, it would be the 1st that I've ever seen in the world and I wouldn't even touch it with aftermarket mofications.
To this day, I've never seen a V shaped engine that small. V6, v8 v12 even, but never a V4. So again, i ask, would you please show me how it went from being an Inline-4 engine to a V shaped engine?
Now that I've said that, please don't mis-inform people of what the engine is not. If it were a V4, it would be the 1st that I've ever seen in the world and I wouldn't even touch it with aftermarket mofications.
Also some industrial applications use the V4 configuration (often Diesels). Old Volkswagens, and many Subarus use horizontally-opposed 4 cylinder configurations (boxer). Otherwise, most automotive applications use the inline 4 cylinder.
Back to the original topic. Although the M271 is a smaller engine (than the M111), it is also a smoother engine. I also like the sound of it better. Long term durability remains an unknown. It continues in many parts of the world as the C180K and the C200K.
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My bad. I made a mistake. There is a Ford v4 engine:
Ours, is definitely not a v-shape engine. There are pics of the m271 engine somewhere on this forum. I can't find the link, but if you look at the shape of the m271, it is definitely an inline shape.
Ours, is definitely not a v-shape engine. There are pics of the m271 engine somewhere on this forum. I can't find the link, but if you look at the shape of the m271, it is definitely an inline shape.
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R4? Dude, stop making stuff up. Maybe I'm right? Seriously, you're gonna confuse peeps who don't know much about anything when it comes to cars (especially ours). And since you don't seem to know much either, that becomes mis-information.Please read these links and brush up on your knowledge. When you've learned enough, then MAYBE you can start putting in your $.02 about what components are on the car. Until then, I suggest you start reading and learning.
LINK: Wikipedia information on w203 C Class
(Read the right column on this webpage. It clearly states
1.8L I4 Kompr.
LINK: How Stuff Works - Basic Engine parts
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R4? Dude, stop making stuff up. Maybe I'm right? Seriously, you're gonna confuse peeps who don't know much about anything when it comes to cars (especially ours). And since you don't seem to know much either, that becomes mis-information.Please read these links and brush up on your knowledge. When you've learned enough, then MAYBE you can start putting in your $.02 about what components are on the car. Until then, I suggest you start reading and learning.
LINK: Wikipedia information on w203 C Class
(Read the right column on this webpage. It clearly states
LINK: Wikipedia information on I4 engine
LINK: How Stuff Works - Basic Engine parts
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If you want to see and hear the potential in the m271 kompressor engine, check out the last page of my thread:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...=103716&page=8
I just added some videos of the sound w/ some performance mods and the Kleemann Trapezoid Muffler.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...=103716&page=8
I just added some videos of the sound w/ some performance mods and the Kleemann Trapezoid Muffler.
What does the Kleeman muffler run? Dollars wise?
I really hope you can come up with a kit.
I'd really like to pick up a 2005 coupe as my next car.
OK, I really really like these little Benz coupes.
I forget which car reviewer I read,
"the nicest compact car money can buy" and at the time, they really liked the coupe but considered it expensive.
Which is a joke now with VW crap selling for 25K at the lowest level.
I knew people in the 80's who paid that much for a Toyota 4runner.
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Kleemann Trapezoid muffler is $765 retail, I think (can't remember off the top of my head). You can contact them to find out.
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Even a Remus is listed as being about that price these days.
Glad I picked one up used for 200 bucks!!
And I have Supersprint headers waiting to be installed....
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I forget which car reviewer I read,
"the nicest compact car money can buy" and at the time, they really liked the coupe but considered it expensive.
Which is a joke now with VW crap selling for 25K at the lowest level.
I knew people in the 80's who paid that much for a Toyota 4runner.
"the nicest compact car money can buy" and at the time, they really liked the coupe but considered it expensive.
Which is a joke now with VW crap selling for 25K at the lowest level.
I knew people in the 80's who paid that much for a Toyota 4runner.
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30K miles, for less than 15 grand the other day...
bet he could be talked down.
Wish I bought Terry's car!!!
