C320 to C350 Performance
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I don't know if they did dyno to prove that??
if it's true, than $450 for 24hp and 28tq is definitely worth the money
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i am not sure yet, thinking about it
cause if it' really give me 24hp and 28tq, I think it's worth it.
however, I need to install and paint my bumpers first, so after that I should be thinking about the ECU.
Waveykat, I thought you already had ECU upgrade??
cause if it' really give me 24hp and 28tq, I think it's worth it.
however, I need to install and paint my bumpers first, so after that I should be thinking about the ECU.
Waveykat, I thought you already had ECU upgrade??
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Well, just wondering because I know SI had actual dyno sheets of the gains they got that JLevi posted, but never saw anything from Powerchip.
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Never got the ECU done yet..soon i will
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Says the man with extensive tuning and mechanical experience.
I'm sure that a tuned 320 would have more performance than a stock 350. In fact, as I plan a build up of my motor, my motivation is to beat the 350 motor.
Sauce, stand by the side, sell your car, and let the doers win.
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I'm sure that a tuned 320 would have more performance than a stock 350. In fact, as I plan a build up of my motor, my motivation is to beat the 350 motor.
Sauce, stand by the side, sell your car, and let the doers win.
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The M111s still got some running room to work with - I think we can give 320s a run for their money - well, with the right parts and tuning. Psst... let them spend their $ on bigger airboxes :p.
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I guess I'll be the only 320 owner to stand up and defend our rides!!!! When I was picking out my first car, I didn't really have any modding in mind. I started researching mods and stuff AFTER I got the car, so I compared the stock versions. They look the same, but a 320 stock has more power under the hood than a 230 or 240, so why settle for a lower model?
You guys say that a 230 tuned can beat a 320 stock...so?
Can a 230 tuned beat a 320 tuned with the same mods?
P.S. You're right about not too many 320 owners out there, and of those owners...not many that want to mod. This is simply because the 320 is more expensive (even if it's not by much) and since they sprang the extra money for the higher model, they probably don't have too much left for modding. AND if they did have enough for the 320 + mods, why not an E?
You guys say that a 230 tuned can beat a 320 stock...so?
Can a 230 tuned beat a 320 tuned with the same mods?
P.S. You're right about not too many 320 owners out there, and of those owners...not many that want to mod. This is simply because the 320 is more expensive (even if it's not by much) and since they sprang the extra money for the higher model, they probably don't have too much left for modding. AND if they did have enough for the 320 + mods, why not an E?
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I guess I'll be the only 320 owner to stand up and defend our rides!!!! When I was picking out my first car, I didn't really have any modding in mind. I started researching mods and stuff AFTER I got the car, so I compared the stock versions. They look the same, but a 320 stock has more power under the hood than a 230 or 240, so why settle for a lower model?
You guys say that a 230 tuned can beat a 320 stock...so?
Can a 230 tuned beat a 320 tuned with the same mods?
P.S. You're right about not too many 320 owners out there, and of those owners...not many that want to mod. This is simply because the 320 is more expensive (even if it's not by much) and since they sprang the extra money for the higher model, they probably don't have too much left for modding. AND if they did have enough for the 320 + mods, why not an E?
You guys say that a 230 tuned can beat a 320 stock...so?
Can a 230 tuned beat a 320 tuned with the same mods?
P.S. You're right about not too many 320 owners out there, and of those owners...not many that want to mod. This is simply because the 320 is more expensive (even if it's not by much) and since they sprang the extra money for the higher model, they probably don't have too much left for modding. AND if they did have enough for the 320 + mods, why not an E?
Dude, you've only been a member since February this year. You do realize that there's been a history of different people doing different things to their cars and you do realize that the 320 engine had the most available power upgrades compared to the 240 and/or 230KSS, right?
That being said, not everybody could afford a 320 brand new. When I was looking for a car, I preferred getting a 2004.5 230KSS over a pre-owned certified 320, just cuz it would be less a lot of miles and fully covered under warranty.
So, no need to "defend" your 320, because what is being discussed is primarily what can be done with the cars/engines and for comparison sake, it's easier to compare other engines to what comes stock on the lower powered w203's (i.e. tuned 230K vs. stock 320). I wouldn't be surprised if my car is faster than a 320 right now (even one with small power mods (i.e. cat-back exhaust/airbox mods). Thing is, it's not to down what the 320 has, it's just to say that with the right tuning, you can accomplish good power and so that people can understand where the power will be, you describe other models in the chassis.
So I suggest you get off your high horse and stop defending anything because nobody is trying to down the 320's power or compare power to see whose got the "bigger *****".
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I'll put it out there. I'll run a 320 anyday. I'm pretty sure I can beat a 320 off the line, at the top end, etc. Yep, I'm a dick, maybe, I've already had the run, and didn't feel the need to post about the kill. Let the NEXT 320 Lamb say "Bahhhhh!"
My sights are set on the 350. And for the record, at this time, I know I can't take one down.
My sights are set on the 350. And for the record, at this time, I know I can't take one down.
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I guess I'll be the only 320 owner to stand up and defend our rides!!!! When I was picking out my first car, I didn't really have any modding in mind. I started researching mods and stuff AFTER I got the car, so I compared the stock versions. They look the same, but a 320 stock has more power under the hood than a 230 or 240, so why settle for a lower model?
You guys say that a 230 tuned can beat a 320 stock...so?
Can a 230 tuned beat a 320 tuned with the same mods?
P.S. You're right about not too many 320 owners out there, and of those owners...not many that want to mod. This is simply because the 320 is more expensive (even if it's not by much) and since they sprang the extra money for the higher model, they probably don't have too much left for modding. AND if they did have enough for the 320 + mods, why not an E?
You guys say that a 230 tuned can beat a 320 stock...so?
Can a 230 tuned beat a 320 tuned with the same mods?
P.S. You're right about not too many 320 owners out there, and of those owners...not many that want to mod. This is simply because the 320 is more expensive (even if it's not by much) and since they sprang the extra money for the higher model, they probably don't have too much left for modding. AND if they did have enough for the 320 + mods, why not an E?
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If I were you, I'd stop playing with tail lights and get some rims Pronto!
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I'll put it out there. I'll run a 320 anyday. I'm pretty sure I can beat a 320 off the line, at the top end, etc. Yep, I'm a dick, maybe, I've already had the run, and didn't feel the need to post about the kill. Let the NEXT 320 Lamb say "Bahhhhh!"
My sights are set on the 350. And for the record, at this time, I know I can't take one down.
My sights are set on the 350. And for the record, at this time, I know I can't take one down.
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Dude, you've only been a member since February this year. You do realize that there's been a history of different people doing different things to their cars and you do realize that the 320 engine had the most available power upgrades compared to the 240 and/or 230KSS, right?
That being said, not everybody could afford a 320 brand new. When I was looking for a car, I preferred getting a 2004.5 230KSS over a pre-owned certified 320, just cuz it would be less a lot of miles and fully covered under warranty.
So, no need to "defend" your 320, because what is being discussed is primarily what can be done with the cars/engines and for comparison sake, it's easier to compare other engines to what comes stock on the lower powered w203's (i.e. tuned 230K vs. stock 320). I wouldn't be surprised if my car is faster than a 320 right now (even one with small power mods (i.e. cat-back exhaust/airbox mods). Thing is, it's not to down what the 320 has, it's just to say that with the right tuning, you can accomplish good power and so that people can understand where the power will be, you describe other models in the chassis.
So I suggest you get off your high horse and stop defending anything because nobody is trying to down the 320's power or compare power to see whose got the "bigger *****".
That being said, not everybody could afford a 320 brand new. When I was looking for a car, I preferred getting a 2004.5 230KSS over a pre-owned certified 320, just cuz it would be less a lot of miles and fully covered under warranty.
So, no need to "defend" your 320, because what is being discussed is primarily what can be done with the cars/engines and for comparison sake, it's easier to compare other engines to what comes stock on the lower powered w203's (i.e. tuned 230K vs. stock 320). I wouldn't be surprised if my car is faster than a 320 right now (even one with small power mods (i.e. cat-back exhaust/airbox mods). Thing is, it's not to down what the 320 has, it's just to say that with the right tuning, you can accomplish good power and so that people can understand where the power will be, you describe other models in the chassis.
So I suggest you get off your high horse and stop defending anything because nobody is trying to down the 320's power or compare power to see whose got the "bigger *****".
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I know that my 320 isn't fast and that I have no performance mods whatsoever. The majority of the W203 forum can outrun me, I know that. I read your post fully and I agree with everything in it, (except maybe the parts that attack me specifically, and not my opinion) so maybe I'm stating my opinion wrong or you're misinterpreting it. I know that a lot of people would rather get something brand new, especially if it looks the same, for the same price.
I don't know what mods you do or don't have, but you basically indicated that based on the fact that the 320 stock has more power than a 230, a tuned 230 would still be slower than a tuned 320. That may not necessarily be the case in every instance.
Just watch what you say, cuz you've had a tendency to post stuff that is borderline wrong and that could mis-lead people who don't know anything at all.
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Yeah, that would be fun. But seeing you are on one side of the coast and I'm on the other, maybe kinda hard.
Bottom line, the M111 was quite tuneable, and some of us guys have M111s with bolt ons, and some massaging. I guess the only thing we could do between you and I is to compare dyno sheets.
I have been putting off getting one done for some time.
I want to get my injectors cleaned first, but I would be game.
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Bottom line, the M111 was quite tuneable, and some of us guys have M111s with bolt ons, and some massaging. I guess the only thing we could do between you and I is to compare dyno sheets.
I have been putting off getting one done for some time.
I want to get my injectors cleaned first, but I would be game.
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It's nothing against you, but you've said some things on this forum that can be interpreted as a "challenge" rather than doing the research before anything you indicate could actually be "fact".
I don't know what mods you do or don't have, but you basically indicated that based on the fact that the 320 stock has more power than a 230, a tuned 230 would still be slower than a tuned 320. That may not necessarily be the case in every instance.
Just watch what you say, cuz you've had a tendency to post stuff that is borderline wrong and that could mis-lead people who don't know anything at all.
I don't know what mods you do or don't have, but you basically indicated that based on the fact that the 320 stock has more power than a 230, a tuned 230 would still be slower than a tuned 320. That may not necessarily be the case in every instance.
Just watch what you say, cuz you've had a tendency to post stuff that is borderline wrong and that could mis-lead people who don't know anything at all.
