Stormin

A C23 Kleeman?


Probably a poser with a stock car that bought the badge. We make fun of them here all the time. But you went about it in the wrong way to be asking legitimate questions now.

drexappeal

Actually, with the 4.6L V8 that's in the Mustang GT, that's 215hp, 285lbs.tq.

If it was a true Kleemanized C23K, it could've been 1 of 2 models. It could've been a 2002 C230 Kompressor Coupe (m111 engine) or it could've been a 2003-2005 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan (m271 engine). I'm figuring for the later. A stock 2003-2005 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan has 189hp, 192lbs.tq, so off the bat, it's not really a fair contest.

If it was a Kleemanized C23K (m271 engine), at most you're talking around 219hp (at the crank).

So, in essence, you're bragging about kicking a car's butt that has less hp at the crank (stock) than you and then fully Kleemanized, barely has more power than your car (stock)? You've already listed all your mods, so to me it seems obvious that you would kick it's ***.

Now, that being said, if you went up against a Kleemanized/Supercharged 320 (m112 engine), that's a completely different story. At that point, you'd have more bragging rights.

In essence, you've come on here to let us know that you kicked the butt of something that should've been outrun by you anyway AND if anything, should've been going against a 3.8L v6.

Sorry, no props for this kill story.

amdeutsch

Oh darn. His RC circuit drained; the time constant expired. Capacitor (meat) drain and there is missing resistance to recharge it.

Sorry about that. Thanx for stopping by.

drexappeal

How many options were on Z's car, Carlos? Makin' me feel bad here. I paid over $35 (out the door), but the sticker was $39K.

Saprissa

i'm tired too of stupid threads like this one.

FrankW

LMAO you sure are proud of beating C230.

kovachian

Not true. I had a '96 Cobra, fully loaded and the sticker was less than $27K. No way on Earth could a GT of the same year cost more, no matter how nicely equipped. Besides, Stangs have never had that much in options. You could check off every box and still get basically just a peppy engine, a railroad tie connecting the rear wheels and an interior made from smelted Legos and Barbie dolls. The term "fully loaded" was never really that loaded as far as niceties go.

Saprissa

not too much.
Her 2004.5 had Sport Package, power leather seats, BOSE sound, sunroof, climatronic, CD changer, nano paint, and maybe a couple of other nit-noids.

Again, we buy our Benzies from a volume salesman, not a commissions salesman, and that makes ALL the difference.

Carlos

Saprissa@aol.com

drexappeal

Hmmm...I had close to the same options, except I had lighting package (which was listed at only $780, I think)...Oh well, too late for regrets. Besides, it left more fun working on the m271.

FrankW

drex, carlos did pick up the 04.5 a year later then you did.

drexappeal

Thanks for making me feel a little better, Frank. btw...how do the brakes feel?

Saprissa

that's true... she bought it in September just as the 2005 models were coming out. She wanted the FREE maintenance and old school interior over the new interior and exterior AMG sport package... oh well

Don't feel bad Drex... think of all the fun you've been having working and modding the car into the beast it is now !

No regrets man ! No regrets !

pugguy2001

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/members/gr8pilot.html
Check this out. His join date is in January 2007, its makes you wonder when he actually bought his 1996 Ford. Click on his avatar and you will see alittle more of this guy, lol. Its funny what you can find out when you google something.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

I hope you dont ban this guy yet because I think I see alot more bashing of this guy now,lol

hawaiian

I guess he didn't realize he was "smoak'n" a 1.8L or 2.3L 4cyl. So to answer his question, no that's not what we're talking about, you're talking about beating a Kleemann tuned 4 cyl with your 8 cyl.............. ooohhhh say it again........"Mufasa". That's like a Suzuki Hayabusa 1300cc beating a GSX-R 600 and bragging;.............. you're supposed to win!!!!

drexappeal

Thanks for the re-assurance. Main thing that I was thinking was, damn those monthly payments!...Hahaha...but I agree, I wouldn't have had as much fun!

mbny

I don't know about $10k too much. I bought my 05' C230 Sport Sedan in March 05' with lighting package, sunroof package, and heated seats for $29,800. Think that was about $4k off sticker.

Bottomline is even a new loaded up Mustang GT will run you over $30k. Let's be realistic here. No one who wants or needs a new car goes shopping for an 11 year old vehicle. At least compare apples to apples and compare both new. Although I am a big fan of the looks of the Stangs, some just prefer the comfort and smooth handling of german cars. Just a different feel, gotta pick which you feel most comfortable with. I would prefer to go back to BMW though. I used to smoke Stangs in my 02' 330 coupe. That was fun. 3 speeding tickets later, I went with Mercedes Benz is a luxury, cruising car. Especially a C230k packing a 4 cylinder with a small supercharger putting out a whopping 189 hp. New C350 should leave you in the dust. Either way, very entertaining thread. I enjoyed it

Outland

"gr8pilot does not currently have any friends"

mig888

Well.. just read this thread - it wasnt me! =D

c230ftw

ROFL I paid cash for my 2006 c230 and im only 15.

raklert

Come to Thailand and I will kill you with my 2JZ W124

1BADC23

My Buddy told me I was getting bashed on here so I had to respond. I was the one who raced this idiot. He didnt beat me like it sounds. Fist of all i have a 2002 C230K Coupe that I had Kleemanized by Motorwerks of N.P.R. Florida. They did a great job and said I had over 250 H.P. at the wheel!
I had him beat on the top end, every time he had to manuever for traffic I could blow by him and it took him forever to catch up. then he cuts me off before the next stoplight. He did get ahead of me a little there, but he had to been cheating because when I shifted out of first his car just made this loud hissing sound and leaped ahead. He must have had nitrous or a supercharger or something and twice the horsepower. If he had run up against a Kompressor V8 it would have been a different story, but these NASCAR
drivers in the POS trying to race all the time is ridiculous. I was thinking about changing the pulley on my supercharger again to get more boost. Would this work or just how much boost can it handle? Any comments?

Saprissa

Welcome to the forum !

post pics of your Kleemann engine set up and your Kleemann C23 Coupé


Carlos

Saprissa@aol.com

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Stormin

+1...

Welcome. You certainly have a rare little car there. I have only seen a single Kleeman tuned C230 up here in WA. (At least in person)

outaurleague

drexappeal

Thanks for coming aboard! Welcome to MBWorld! Ah, so it was a m111 coupe! That engine has great potential. The main problem with both the m271 and the m111 is managing the AFR. I've got custom injectors in place to lower the AFR at WOT. My car (when it was running ideally) was in the 12-14 range, from what I remember.

What kind of pulley do you have on it now? -EDIT- I'm an idiot. You're Kleemanized...but, I'm not sure what the comparison is between a Kleemann pulley vs. ASP. Most common one used by a lot of the m111 owners is the ASP. Best bang for the buck available.

Take some pics of your engine bay! I'd love to see the Kleemanized work on the m111!