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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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How do I get this to work?!

I saw this on MB's website in reference to the "02 C240 I have...
Electronic cruise control with digital speed readout upon engagement.
I don't have the car or manual with me or I'd look it up (if it's in there). I could have sworn that this doesn't happen on our car

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 01:44 PM
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if you use the multi function steering wheel you should be able to get a speed reading on the info window
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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I could have sworn that this doesn't happen on our car
This was covered a LONG time ago. It doesn't work as described. The wording is either misleading or the feature never made it to production. DSMIT is refering to the digital speed readout in the MFD available in the menu that displays engine temp and other stuff that I have forgotten.

Like others, I expect the MPH to show up somewhere on the screen as soon as I activate cruise control. It doesn't.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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I do not think this feature works with US cars. Several others and I have tried it to no avail.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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Thanks guys! Yes, I know how to get the MPH speed readout on the multi-function digital readout, just not the speed readout when cruise is activated (is this the only car in production that gives NO visual indication that cruise control is activated?!). MAJOR OVERSIGHT in my opinion

On the other hand, I wonder if the car really lacks this feature or it's there, but we haven't discovered how to activate it. Maybe I'll send a note to MB enquiring about it.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:07 PM
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As Avlis notes, both features exist on the car, but they are not linked together. You can engage cruise control anytime you want and monitor all sorts of values in the MFD. However, you can also call up the MPH/KPH Display in the MFD to monitor how well the cruise control keeps the car at the displayed speed, which IMO is very impressive.

But, alas, the two features work independently, and yes, I agree the statement is somewhat misleading. I further agree, Jim, that it would be nice to see a light (at least) to show that cruise is engaged. I've had several cars with CC, and about half of them had visual CC status indicators... it's a nice feature to have. Let us know if MB gives you the "secret sauce" on this one.

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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I guess this statement comes from the european version of the cruise control. When I enable the cruise control on my euro-coupe I get the speedsetting in the display + a small yellow LED is lit on the stalk + LIM lamp is lit in the dash. That should be enough indications that the cruise control is enabled. Dont you have any of these indication lamps in US?
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:15 PM
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I forgot to mention that there is also a setting that displays the speed in place of the outside temp in the MFD (so that's a whopping total of 3 seperate places to read the speed). I think it was deduced that this is the feature the manual speaks of. But it's still not an automatic thing that turns on/off with activation of the CC as the text leads us to believe.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:18 PM
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When I enable the cruise control on my euro-coupe I get the speedsetting in the display + a small yellow LED is lit on the stalk + LIM lamp is lit in the dash. Dont you have any of these indication lamps in US?
NO. You guys get better speed control systems than we do. We can't limit speed with ours. It's a totally different stalk. Someone posted pictures of both a while ago. STF.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Freddy
I guess this statement comes from the european version of the cruise control. When I enable the cruise control on my euro-coupe I get the speedsetting in the display + a small yellow LED is lit on the stalk + LIM lamp is lit in the dash. That should be enough indications that the cruise control is enabled. Dont you have any of these indication lamps in US?
Damn, Freddy, no we don't. And you euro-guys get the wide-angle outside mirrors, too. Maybe we should trade you some US-spec flip-up cup holders? (LOL!)

avlis, like you, I'm starting to wonder if there's a "Norway setting" for this functionality?
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:24 PM
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So to summerize (off topic), the US spec cars are deprived of:

1. SMT transmission option
2. Parktronic option
3. Wide angle side mirrors
4. Driver adjustable headlight height
5. Speed limiting cruise control with digital readout on activation
6. Designo interior option
7. Lower front springs
8. TV tuner on Comand
9. AMG option on Coupe
10. In-dash CD player
11. ?

(Talk about being treated as a 3rd world country...)

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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avlis, like you, I'm starting to wonder if there's a "Norway setting" for this functionality?
No Bob, I think the manual/press speaks of a Euro spec fuction that didn't make it to the US. They get a different (read better) system. Some regualtor in the US probably doesn't think it's a good idea for us to limit our top speed so we get a dumbed-down version of the cruise. Either that or the marketing team in Germany watches reruns of US sitcoms and think we're a bunch of poo-poo heads.

Yeah, I'm a little bitter....:p

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:43 PM
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One day at work I was driving a Benz we had in that happened to be a Euro version. I forget the model, but it had a V12(?) with cylinder deactivation and about every other whiz bang feature known to man. Unfortunately the manual was in German so I didn't know how to USE said features...

Anway, I'm pulling onto the highway, and somehow I hit the button that activated the speed limiter. The max speed was set around 40. This is Michigan. People drive 80. Oh oh.

So here I am in an unfamiliar car, foot on the floor, and there's NOTHING going on, power-wise. Yikes!

I figured out how to turn the speed limiter off in a hurry, but those few moments between "huh?" and "that's better" were not fun...
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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Well, in some ways the US cruise control is better. The euro version does not keep the speed automatically. If I lift my foot off the pedal the speed will drop. The cruise control only limits the topspeed.

I am still quite surprised that there is no indication lamp on the US version. I bet the lamp exists in the dash, so it shouldnt have been too difficult to make it light up with the CC.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 03:05 PM
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The euro version does not keep the speed automatically.
I did not realize that. So it's an exact reverse of the USA cruise control. So strange... Now I can understand why the Euro cars would need the set speed displayed on the dash. Otherwise, you'd have no idea what the max speed was set at.

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 03:27 PM
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Feeling better now. I definitely like the US spec version better.

Can't really see a reason for the Euro feature... Even if I did limit max speed so my son can drive it to Prom, he'd find out how to deactivate it (his only foray into the owner's manual ).

An indicator lamp would still be useful...
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 03:40 PM
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That is funny because even my Neon tells me when the cruise is on and when it is set. That is very strange that you do not get any indicator at all.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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That is funny because even my Neon tells me when the cruise is on and when it is set. That is very strange that you do not get any indicator at all.
I don't see the big deal. You take your foot off the gas and you notice the car maintains its speed. Cruise is on obviously. You don't have a light on the dash to tell you that your windshield wipers are on do ya ? Would you want one ?
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 07:23 PM
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Oh I don't need one, and I was thinking the same thing. When you set the cruise you know it is on and it is pretty hard to forget that it is on I would imagine. Although I do think it is wierd that the Europeans actually have a limit and have to hold there foot on the gas the whole time. Albeit floored but still.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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I think it is because they are obviously aware of the limited intelligence of people in the US and don't want to confuse them too much. only kidding
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 07:42 PM
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It is because we are weak and can't be expected to hold our foot down on the gas, plus the lazy factor. Then again you UK'ers have 3 lights telling you it is on. lol....
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 08:12 PM
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Oh I don't need one, and I was thinking the same thing. When you set the cruise you know it is on and it is pretty hard to forget that it is on I would imagine. Although I do think it is wierd that the Europeans actually have a limit and have to hold there foot on the gas the whole time. Albeit floored but still.
I see tha safety reason for the way it is done in Europe. It is a dead man's pedal. Trains in the US have something similar. The theory is if something happens to the driver his foot will slip from the pedal and the car (or train) will coast to a stop.
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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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I know this is an old thread but if I've read the posts correctly then I feel the urge to clarify.

UK spec W203's have cruise control and speed limiter and work exactly as you would expect;

1: Cruise control- Nudge the stalk up or down to set the speed and take your foot off the pedal. Car maintains speed. Moving the stalk up or down while engaged accelerates or decelerates by ~1mph. No lights or other indicators, see previous post referring to windscreen wipers

2: Speed limiter- Push the stalk inwards and the speed is limited to 5mph above your current speed, move the stalk up and down to increase/decrease maximum speed by 5mph, switch under the pedal deactivates it when you floor it (I think this is the same switch as kickdown on auto boxes). Light comes on on stalk and display shows maximum limited speed.

On both, pushing the stalk backwards switches the function off and pulling the stalk forwards re-engages with previous settings.

Often here on the back roads, when you come out of a de-restricted zone into a 30mph village the police wait with their radar guns, speed limiter is great for that, and cruise control... marvellous, couldn't do without it for the mileage that I cover.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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Talking avlis, actually 3rd world countrys get the euro version

avlis, actually 3rd world countrys get the euro version , at least south of the border they do. You can also get a C180 with no power windows, or AC. Believe me we are some spoiled brats
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