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you could always swap out with a crate 350. i've just come to the realization that droppin $$$ into these motors is pointless. i spent bout $900 for my exhaust and thats all I'm gonna do. For what you/we spend on in engine mods for measly gains, audi/bmw's with the same invested money dont walk... they RUN away. sad :o( thats one of the things that kinda got me down about buyin my car.
now a new c350 on the otherhand....
now a new c350 on the otherhand....
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Ahhh, a Cervantes reader! Originally Posted by Drop-a-Daimler
I don't think Don Quixote had kids when he went out tilting windmills. But he was nuts.
I take it that's Don Quixote in your signature picture.
The main thing to making things lighter is to drive with less fuel, possibly without the spare tire nor tools, and empty everything out of the car.
Omit the tools first, since the MBUSA roadside assistance has all the tools anyways.
Then start to omit:
CDs, tapes (no tape deck I hope), water bottles, magazines, toilet paper, first aid kit, floormats (other than the driver's floormat), change, ashtray inserts, cigarette lighters, cell phone chargers, contents of glove box (except for registration and insurance paperwork), and other non-essential items.
Omitting those non-essential items will save you approximately 13 pounds/6 kilos.
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But definitely the resonator weighs alot. I just currently changed my muffler and man my stock one was super heavy
.Not sure how much my remus weigh though 
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only keep a 1/4 tank of gas in at a time. on our 16 gal. tanks, you'll shave off around 72lbs
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take a good long ***** before you get in your car. should save you a couple of pounds
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take a good long ***** before you get in your car. should save you a couple of pounds

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I said have less petrol in the tank as well, but now I'm thinking this may not be as desirable as I had previously thought. Originally Posted by rlee02135
only keep a 1/4 tank of gas in at a time. on our 16 gal. tanks, you'll shave off around 72lbs
The C350 is extremely front heavy (weight distribution) and since the petrol's weight is mostly in the rear, this would upset the weight distribution even more.
I'm thinking the battery should be changed to a racing battery that is only half the weight. But disconnecting the battery brings about several problems as well.
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not to be used in conjunction with driving naked. Using both could lead to the unwanted type of skidmarks.
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not to be used in conjunction with driving naked. Using both could lead to the unwanted type of skidmarks.
This guy is funny!Originally Posted by e1000
not to be used in conjunction with driving naked. Using both could lead to the unwanted type of skidmarks.
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Unless the car's covered in schit already. Not only weight but decreased aerodynamics.Originally Posted by ZedStyle
take a good long ***** before you get in your car. should save you a couple of pounds

setup one of those remote control thing from "Myth Buster" and you lose 150lb of your *** immediately. the equipment's maybe 50lbs...LOL
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Rotational weight aside....every 100# is only about a 1/10 in the quarter. I would venture a guess that not many of us here are good enough drivers to really ever be that consistant anyway.
I too am a tinker-er, however a Benz engine isn't a run of the mill Chevy with a smally block. It's quite hard to get any power out of these at a reasonable amount of money.
I too am a tinker-er, however a Benz engine isn't a run of the mill Chevy with a smally block. It's quite hard to get any power out of these at a reasonable amount of money.
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The biggest factor is that the Benz engines are already tuned farther than the GM small blocks. MBs are even tuned higher than the V-8s available in the Vette (GM's top-of-the-line selections):Originally Posted by bumpnzx3
I too am a tinker-er, however a Benz engine isn't a run of the mill Chevy with a smally block. It's quite hard to get any power out of these at a reasonable amount of money.
C230 (M271) 189hp 1.8L = 105 hp/L
C350 268hp 3.5L = 76.6 hp/L
LS7 505hp 7.0L = 72.1 hp/L
LS2 400hp 6.0L = 66.7 hp/L
Just opening up the exhaust on a domestic car typically yields sizable results, but not on a Benz.
You get more of what you pay for up front, but getting more power out will definitely take cubic dollars.
you can't compare overhead cam engine to push rod IMO.
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I wasn't really- I was just refering to the money it takes to mod these cars to make them faster. A simple cat-back system can cost 2x-3x more for these cars than most other cheaper cars. Partially do to supply/demand, and the fact there aren't as many supplies for these cars either.
OHC engines normally do cost more to mod. But the Mercedes engine is more than most of the domestic and Japanese OHC engines. I bought a set of Crower cams for my Focus for $265. I would venture a guess that, even if I could find them for my Benz, they would be quite a bit more than that.
OHC engines normally do cost more to mod. But the Mercedes engine is more than most of the domestic and Japanese OHC engines. I bought a set of Crower cams for my Focus for $265. I would venture a guess that, even if I could find them for my Benz, they would be quite a bit more than that.
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C230 (M271) 189hp 1.8L = 105 hp/L
C350 268hp 3.5L = 76.6 hp/L
LS7 505hp 7.0L = 72.1 hp/L
LS2 400hp 6.0L = 66.7 hp/L
Just opening up the exhaust on a domestic car typically yields sizable results, but not on a Benz.
You get more of what you pay for up front, but getting more power out will definitely take cubic dollars.
oh no. you better hope none of the S2000 fan-boys find this post!!!!!!!!Originally Posted by dmatre
The biggest factor is that the Benz engines are already tuned farther than the GM small blocks. MBs are even tuned higher than the V-8s available in the Vette (GM's top-of-the-line selections):C230 (M271) 189hp 1.8L = 105 hp/L
C350 268hp 3.5L = 76.6 hp/L
LS7 505hp 7.0L = 72.1 hp/L
LS2 400hp 6.0L = 66.7 hp/L
Just opening up the exhaust on a domestic car typically yields sizable results, but not on a Benz.
You get more of what you pay for up front, but getting more power out will definitely take cubic dollars.
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That's a great point, they are pretty well setup from the factory and a catback seems to do less than on a domestic V8. For instance, SuperSprint got 286bhp out of a stock 3.5L MB on the dyno and 298bhp with a full exhaust change. On one hand it's pretty amazing you can make 300 at the crank on the 3.5L just by upgrading the exhaust but still, they only got 12hp out of [correction] a set of headers. I've seen a Ford 5.0L get 25hp at the wheels on a dyno just from a set of shorty headers.Originally Posted by dmatre
...MBs are even tuned higher than the V-8s available ...Just opening up the exhaust on a domestic car typically yields sizable results, but not on a Benz... getting more power out will definitely take cubic dollars.

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Firewall that puppy and feel its thrust. Originally Posted by dmatre
...505hp 7.0L...

It is easily tweaked (inexpensively) for much more. Alas, modding a Mercedes requires commensurate werewithal.
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Could you shutup about the subs already? Every thread you write in you find a way to include it. NO ONE CARES BUDDY.Originally Posted by c230ftw
Make sure you dont have a 200lbs sound system in the trunk like me
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Could you shutup about the subs already? Every thread you write in you find a way to include it. NO ONE CARES BUDDY.

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S2000 237hp 2.2L = 107 hp/LOriginally Posted by e1000
oh no. you better hope none of the S2000 fan-boys find this post!!!!!!!!
C230 1.8 189hp 1.8L = 105 hp/L
Difference = 1.8%
Nothing to hang your head over. . .
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C230 1.8 189hp 1.8L = 105 hp/L
Difference = 1.8%
Nothing to hang your head over. . .
True, but the S2k is impressive especially because it is an NA engine whereas the M271 is supercharged.Originally Posted by dmatre
S2000 237hp 2.2L = 107 hp/LC230 1.8 189hp 1.8L = 105 hp/L
Difference = 1.8%
Nothing to hang your head over. . .







