MBSang

I hate to tell you this, but I need to let go of my baby. - Don't ask me why. One thing I can tell you is this is not because of my car, it is my own problem....

I am just wondering how much she is worth...

I have 2002 C230 SportsCoupe w/ C2 (Sun roof/Rain sensor), C7 (Sports Pkg), Full leather seats, Automatic, 6 CD changer, SL e-Brake cover 8600 miles on her.

Please help me! I need to know the price that I can expect.

Thanks in advance,

Sang

MB-BOB

There are several places to ceheck. Here's one...
Kelleybluebook.com

young

my SWAG is $25,000 maybe $24k... if you sell it yourself.

you're still welcome at the meets!

MBSang

MB-BOB,

Thanks for early response, but I already check the KBB.com already. What I got from them is "At this time Kelley Blue Book does not have the necessary data to assess this vehicle. Ample turnover must occur in the marketplace before Kelley Blue Book can report a value for this vehicle."

My car is toooooo new




Young,

Thanks, I will keep checking this forum.

Jerry MB230K

probably 80-85 % of what you paid for it

Xeon

go shop around.....maybe around 25

1 crazy dealer wanna pay me 30

SoCal240/6

Average ASKING prices seems to be around $25K. Figure actual sales prices to be $1,000 to $2,000 less. In 6 months, the Hatchback will be in the 'Teens.

I'd say if you got $24K in a sale, you'd be doing pretty well. The buyer has to pay sales tax and at least part registration (in most states).

Do a search on the various places for cars for sale in your area, see what people are asking.

Here's some current ones:

2002 C230, luxury hatchback, auto, black, gray-leather interior, fully-loaded, deluxe-pkg, including sunroof, CD/cass, Premium sound, rain sensor-etc, 1785 miles! $23, 000 347-351-9239 or 718-894-6037

2002 MERCEDES BENZ C230 Kompressor Coupe Brilliant silver, charcoal leather, auto, moonroof, traction, fully equipped!! , CAR CENTER USA, $22900, 888-890-5025

2002 MERCEDES BENZ C230, coupe, 6 speed, 10,000 miles, mint condition, black, loaded, 4 year, $20,999/ best offer; (248)661-0252 (248)767-8275 FARMINGTON HILLS

Price $24995
Mileage 4835
Exterior Color Silver
Body Style Coupe
Doors Two Door
Engine 4 Cylinder Gasoline
Fuel Type Gasoline
Drive Type 2 wheel drive
Stock No. M1239
VIN WDBRN47J32A342942
McGeorge Mercedes
Contact Name:
Brad Freeman
Contact Phone:
Toll Free
1-800-553-5576

KBB, etc. aren't really worth much. What really matters is what people are asking, and more importantly, how much they are actually selling for in the market.

MB-BOB

SoCal, last night I followed home a BMW Z3 hardtop. According to BMW's website, they market it as the "Z3 Coupe," and the "M" version is the "M-Coupe."

I couldn't help but notice the "Hatchback" on this "Coupe." Do you consider the M-Coupe to be "just a hatchback," too?

SoCal240/6

Yes, the M Coupe is technically a hatchback.

But, because it doesn't have a rear seat, it's styling is not prototypical economy car hatchback, like the MB Hatchback.

Its more a "hatchback" in the same vein as other sports cars that have a hatch - Corvette, Z car, 924/928, etc., all of which have no (or no significant) back seat.

Although I'd say that the M Coupe, with its more upright hatch, is more of a hatchback than those other cars.

But is the M Coupe "just a hatchback." Hardly. Styling-wise, it is very unique, not a dead-ringer for the old VW Corrado. Any car with 333 hp is also not "just a hatchback" or "just" anything, but instead a very special car. Not in the same class in any way as a $25,000, 192 hp, 3400 lb Hatchback.

Its not that difficult. MB Hatchback = hatchback. BMW 318ti = Hatchback. Dodge Colt Hatchback = hatchback. VW Golf = Hatchback. They all share the common, prototypical economy car hatchback style: Small, 2 door, seats for 4 adults, large hatch. That's simply what the common definition of a "hatchback" is.

And, 99% of people don't find it difficult, either. Put a MB Hatchback in front of 10 people, and ask them "What body style is that car." 9 or 10 out of 10 will say "hatchback."

It is what it is. Why are Hatchback owners so eager to kid themselves?

tberry

I think the M-coupe is even more of a hatchback then C Coupe. M coupe look like the back on VW Golf (hatchback) and c coupe look more like RSX/Integra back style. If RSX/Integra are selling as sport coupe then so is the C.

FrankW

the M coupe has 315 hps, not 333 hps due to it's shorter exaust system.

i agree, a hatchback = 2 or 4 doors with 4 passenger capacity. the M coupe is a semi-hatch since it only seats 2.

Buellwinkle

So is the C320 stationwagon really a 4 door hatchback?

FrankW

wagon is wagon. Wagon/touring is car that have 8 pillars, which hatchback only has 6 pillars

mctwin2kman

So then by this definition a Viper GTS is a Hatchback as well. God I would not tell an owner that, his GTS Coupe is a Hatchback.

Edit: And most Hatchbacks have Two doors, which is the what a Coupe is. A coupe has two doors on it, unless someone here points me to a four dour coupe. So it should be sensible to be able to call a 2-door Coupe such as the C230 a Coupe or a Coupe/Hatchback. It is all symantics you see...

MB-BOB

SoCal, by definition, then, I suppose if the C230K were simply an impractical two-seater (or Porsche 911 rear seat for 2-year olds only) then the C230K would qualify as a real coupe? At a time when Chevrolet is trying to enhance the C5 Corvette with more room under the glass "hatch" (read: more practical) it apparently is to be laughed at that a "coupe" can be practical?

Frankly, this continuing debate over Coupe v. Hatchback is getting really old. Just like the Truck v SUV v hybrid SUV v. station wagon issue, the lines are now forever blurred...

I accept the C230K as a proper coupe, because I would never compare it to a Ford Pinto. At $25-30K, it's a lot more expensive than the most tricked-out Civic, so I hardly call it cheap (in the stereotypical Hatchback mode), or cheaply made.

IMO, to assign an arbitrary moniker (and perceived value set) to any given car speaks to the narrow-mindedness of the assigner. It's this lack of forward thinking that allows out-of-the-box thinkers to beat us at our own game.

While we Americans are busy pidgeon-holing cars into rigid, unflexible niches, the Japanese are busy breaking the mold with such vehicles as the Matrix. Even people working in the industry can't categorize that ride (Is it a hatch, a wagon, an SUV?)... But I'm sure some here can...

SoCal240/6

No, if the MB Hatchback were an impractical 2 seater with tiny back seats like a 911, it wouldn't necessarily make it a coupe. But, it would take it out of the classic Hatchback category.

"I accept the C230K as a proper coupe, because I would never compare it to a Ford Pinto." Because its not comparable to a Pinto, its a proper coupe? Where's the logic there? A pickup truck is not comparable to a Ford Pinto either, but that doesn't make a pickup truck a coupe.

A body style is not an "arbitrary moniker." Its not arbitrary at all. VW Golf, 318Ti, Dodge Colt, MB C230, etc. are hatchback body styles. A C240 is a sedan. A BMW 3.0 or 635CSi, or MB CL or CLK, is a coupe. Those are just body styles, not value judgments. Its the defensive Hatchback owners that place the value judgment on the purely descriptive term.

Do lines get blurred? Yeah. A Porsche 928 or Corvette techically has a hatch, but most would not classify those cars as hatchback. But, the MB Hatchback doesn't blur the lines one iota. It is the prototypical Hatchback. Short, stubby, narrow, room for 4, 2 doors with a large hatch. If the MB Hatchback is not a hatchback, then a hatchback, as a body style, has never existed.

Debate getting old? I agree with that - plus, the fact that its a Hatchback is not really subject to debate anyways. It was you who revived it with a direct question to me.

FrankW

man, this is all wrong dude! u r twisting the words...lol

in my defn, a hatchback is a car that has a close to vertical lined trunk right after the rear window, and it opens up with the window, or it usually has 6 supporting pillars rather than the 8 pillars on the wagon. Also, it's usually sedan based chassi in this case the C-coupe, or i.e. Civic hatchback, Golf, Beetle, BMW 3er Ti, and so on.

the Viper GTS is a coupe because it's not based on a sedan. 3er coupe is not a hatch because it has a real trunk.

MB-BOB

To the contrary, it is you who resurrect this debate every time you refer to the C230K as "the Hatchback." That some C230K owners are defensive to your remarks is simply a reflection of the disdain with which you gleefully refer to their automobiles.

Implicit in your every remark about the C230K is that it is cheap... Pinto cheap. Indeed, it's patently clear that "Hatchback" is your codeword for cheap. While the Coupe owners on this site have berated your persistantly offensive remarks by pointing out the relative "cheapness" (their words, not mine) of your c240, I find it amazing that owners of MBs of considerably more mettle don't bother pointing out your "pot calling the kettle black" attitude.

Now, don't attempt to link me with that crowd, because as an owner of a just slightly less cheap MB, I AM telling you that your's is such a case of an insecure person seeking to feel better by belittling others with every reference to "the Hatchback."

So, with all due respect, I am asking you to please refer to fellow members on this site (and their cars) with respect. The car is a C230K. If you can't bring yourself to refer to it as such, perhaps you can at least keep your nagging "Hatchback" remarks to yourself. IMO, you'll find reference to this in the "Terms of Use" document you signed when joining this forum.